IDBillzFan Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 This flick has become one of those "I've seen it, aren't I enlightened?" fads...662679[/snapback] I miss the old days when the enlightening fad involved women experimenting with being a lesbian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of BiB Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 I miss the old days when the enlightening fad involved women experimenting with being a lesbian. 663067[/snapback] What's really sneaky is that a lot of guys will watch it just so they can slam it. It's still income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJsackedagain Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 Those cowboys sure seemed like really special friends, much like Vito Spadafore and his leather buddy last week on the Sopranos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 By the way, if any of you guys like a good independent film that most people have never heard of, you should watch 'Chuck and Buck'. I felt it was a much better film than Brokeback Mountain. One or more of the characters are gay, but it's not about homosexuality. It has a pretty high rating on www.rottentomatoes.com, which is more the exception than the norm. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/chuck_and_buck/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Trust me....whatever you imagine the, uh, love scenes will be like, they are much, much worse. My biggest issue with the flick was that, butt-!@#$ing aside, it just wasn't that good. I thought the flow, particularly toward the end, was absolutley horrible. The acting was very good, I'll give them that (a little TOO good, if you ask me).....but I just don't get what all the hype was about. Crash, on the other hand, I found absolutely riveting. It was a far superior film and much more worthy of the Oscar. 662489[/snapback] Have not seen the movie, and highly doubt I will. However, in my sense is that hollywood sees any movie thats leans left, or any actor that portrays someone with "special needs" and just slaps OSCAR next to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 You guys will let me know if I'm... well.... you know... different tomorrow, right? 662461[/snapback] You will hear nary a bleat from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Have not seen the movie, and highly doubt I will. However, in my sense is that hollywood sees any movie thats leans left, or any actor that portrays someone with "special needs" and just slaps OSCAR next to them 664626[/snapback] Well this movie is case in point, then.....cause I just don't get it. Better gay movie, "Chuck and Buck".....better Wyoming movie, "An Unfinished Life".....just saw that one a couple days ago. I don't really consider J-Lo a great actress, but the film was pretty good. I didn't really think I'd enjoy it. There is a little girl in it who plays J-Lo's daughter that was just amazing. She's already a better actress than her movie mom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 You guys will let me know if I'm... well.... you know... different tomorrow, right? 662461[/snapback] Will do. Avoid hard candy and squirt cheese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyemike Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 My wife told me she did NOT want to see "Brokeback Mountain" under any circumstances. Thank God for the lovely and talented Kim. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 My wife told me she did NOT want to see "Brokeback Mountain" under any circumstances. Thank God for the lovely and talented Kim. Mike 664658[/snapback] Good advice there, Brokebackeyemike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 The summation of the career of Rob Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 ...but I just don't get what all the hype was about. Crash, on the other hand, I found absolutely riveting. It was a far superior film and much more worthy of the Oscar. 662489[/snapback] "Brokeback Mountain" really overrated, as was "Crash". I guess, given the films nominated, I would have picked "Crash" as well, but it was so heavy-handed, it was painful. I can't stand that Hollywood can rarely make good, smart, adult movies (of the non-porn variety), without beating the viewer over the head with whatever point it is trying to make. I will agree that "Crash" was not dull (the opposite of "Brokeback Mountain"), and I enjoyed it for a while. However, the scene where Matt Dillon saves the woman he harrassed a few days earlier was where the movie "jumped the shark" for me. It was not revealing, only predictable..."Crash" makes "Forrest Gump" seem like a Fellini film. If you have read my posts, you can probably guess my politics. But even I was a little offended by the movie ("Crash") in some ways. The point it seemed to be trying to shove down our throats was that race relations in America suck (no kidding?), every minority has a heart of gold, (being misunderstood by white people is their only problem), and all white people are selfish, biggoted a-holes. What I liked about "Crash" was the way it intertwined so many characters, and so many story lines together. If you like this kind of screenplay, I recommend seeing any Robert Altman film, even his worst is better...."Short Cuts" is excellent! Gosh, I didn't realize how much I dis-liked "Crash" until I wrote this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 " The point it seemed to be trying to shove down our throats was that race relations in America suck (no kidding?), every minority has a heart of gold, (being misunderstood by white people is their only problem), and all white people are selfish, biggoted a-holes. 665153[/snapback] That's what you got out of it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick in RaChaCha Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 You guys will let me know if I'm... well.... you know... different tomorrow, right? 662461[/snapback] let's see if you are the same today as you were lastnight. Now, what would you say if I asked you to go camping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dib Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 I think your wife is trying to tell you she wants a threesome with two gay cowboys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 I will agree that "Crash" was not dull (the opposite of "Brokeback Mountain"), and I enjoyed it for a while. However, the scene where Matt Dillon saves the woman he harrassed a few days earlier was where the movie "jumped the shark" for me. It was not revealing, only predictable...665153[/snapback] I thought that was a tremendous scene, and once you got past the ridiculously heavy racial basis (that was being created in order to elevate the more dramatic moments later on), the movie was extremely solid and in many ways even uplifting. Just when you think you're watching a Michael Moore-like "we're all a bunch of ignorant morons and let me show you why" flick, it reversed itself and really was terrific entertainment. I guess when you can predict things before they happen in flicks, it takes some of the fun out of them. My wife does it all the time, but when the movie turns on, I turn off. I never thought he'd go back after her, I never thought the bullets were blank and I never thought the one dude who wouldn't kill a black dude out of fear would kill a black dude out of fear. I loved "Crash" and put it in the top 10 list easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 I went to go see it voluntarily with my fiancee. I thought it was OK: definately not worth the hype. I've scene stronger sex scenes on FX (Rescue Me, The Shield). When did people become such homophobes? Coutdown to my stalker in 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 I thought that was a tremendous scene, and once you got past the ridiculously heavy racial basis (that was being created in order to elevate the more dramatic moments later on), the movie was extremely solid and in many ways even uplifting. Just when you think you're watching a Michael Moore-like "we're all a bunch of ignorant morons and let me show you why" flick, it reversed itself and really was terrific entertainment. I guess when you can predict things before they happen in flicks, it takes some of the fun out of them. My wife does it all the time, but when the movie turns on, I turn off. I never thought he'd go back after her, I never thought the bullets were blank and I never thought the one dude who wouldn't kill a black dude out of fear would kill a black dude out of fear. I loved "Crash" and put it in the top 10 list easily. 665403[/snapback] That was pretty much my take on it, too. I think it's a strong exercise in perspective, and even human nature. I'm a firm believer that, for the most part, we are who we are....but sometimes life events can bring about certain aspects of yourself that you never knew existed. I don't expect everyone to love the film, but I was completely riveted for the whole two hours. I can see why the producers of the film wanted to make sure that the academy members had plenty of copies of the film to view before voting.....cause they knew what a travesty it would be if friggin Brokeback won out over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 That was pretty much my take on it, too. I think it's a strong exercise in perspective, and even human nature. I'm a firm believer that, for the most part, we are who we are....but sometimes life events can bring about certain aspects of yourself that you never knew existed. I don't expect everyone to love the film, but I was completely riveted for the whole two hours. I can see why the producers of the film wanted to make sure that the academy members had plenty of copies of the film to view before voting.....cause they knew what a travesty it would be if friggin Brokeback won out over it. 665445[/snapback] The real problem with the movie, to me, was that the racist crap was so "in your face." Take the scene with Matt Dillon talking to the black woman at the HMO. He asks the woman's name, she says "Shaniqua," and his response is "Figures." I know comments like that are made, and maybe I live a sheltered life, but you rarely ever see/hear people saying those things directly to the other person. Behind their back? Sure. But they needed to do that to set up the other scenes. The dynamics between Dillon and Thandie Newton's character were awesome. I was convinced she was a goner in the car. Thoroughly convinced. Just as I was convinced the little girl took the bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 The real problem with the movie, to me, was that the racist crap was so "in your face." Take the scene with Matt Dillon talking to the black woman at the HMO. He asks the woman's name, she says "Shaniqua," and his response is "Figures." I know comments like that are made, and maybe I live a sheltered life, but you rarely ever see/hear people saying those things directly to the other person. Behind their back? Sure. But they needed to do that to set up the other scenes. The dynamics between Dillon and Thandie Newton's character were awesome. I was convinced she was a goner in the car. Thoroughly convinced. Just as I was convinced the little girl took the bullet. 665461[/snapback] Yeah, it was definitely over the top. It's been a while since I've seen it, but I remember thinking that it seemed to really add to the contrast of his character before and after the accident scene. I also am not really convinced that the portrayal of the PD was meant to be face value, you know? The movie was too smart overall for me to not wonder if it was done that way intentionally - particularly when you consider the dynamics between Matt Dillon's character and the officer he was 'training'. I'd really have to watch it again to be able to really form an opinion on it.....I just know that I felt like I had to take a deep breath after the film ended, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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