djfarr00 Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 See, that's what you don't get. I do not hate him. He just doesn't have the skills to play and win in the NFL. Nothing personal, he is just a better fit for CFL, or NFLE. 645763[/snapback] agreed. Just like Flutie. In many ways actually. Can we trade him to the Argonauts?
Risin Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 It is certainly OK for you to no longer respect my football posts.645920[/snapback] Thanks for the permission. The thing is, I will never think that it is OK for a rookie with a strange haircut to run around screaming at, and high-fiving veterans in ANY profession. Veterans rarely look toward untested rookies who were handed a job for inspiration, because they in fact earned a spot on an NFL roster. Perhaps we can agree on this. 645920[/snapback] Sorry man, stopped reading at that sentance, just proves your prejudice. Once again, how do you think that the above would go over in a police precinct? Do you think that seasoned, professional police officers who have been through wars and have seen the ugliest things one can imagine look to rookies fresh out of the academy for leadership and inspiration? 645920[/snapback] Who are you, Walter from The Big Lebowski? Do you mean the seasoned professional officers, who plant evidence, cover for their "brothers", racially profile people and extort money from drug dealers. If so, I don't think they could get "leadership and inspiration" from Jesus Christ himself. The connection I'm making is, equate the bad cop to the football player. Most are only out for themselves, and don't give a crap about getting any inspiration out of anybody. Only thing that matters to them is, getting paid, and scoring bling bling. This is the point that I was trying to make, and it is hard to do on a message board format. In person, you would have understood me in 5 seconds. 645920[/snapback] You still haven't made a valid point, all I see is prejudice. You don't like JP, and you will use any evidence to prove your point, no matter how silly it sounds. My reply was even more silly, and I'm sure it has you scratching your head, if so I've made my point. Face to face, or over a message board, I will not see things your way. I think for myself, and what I saw was a young QB play bad, but have moments of competence. It's way to early for me to formulate an opinion on him, one way or the other. If you meant face to face, I would be intimidated or forced to see things your way, because you are tough, you couldn't be farther from the truth. Eight years in the martial arts, and an amateur boxing career has prepared me for most people in life.
John from Riverside Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 How in the fricken Devils ASS can you determine after one year where JPL didn't even get a full season can you determine that he isn't fit to play in the NFL..... Did he bounce all his throws off the ground? Kept fumbling the ball under center? Dropped the ball if a defender got close? Curled into a fetal position if he was about to get hit? Mouthed off his teamates to the media? Never completed a pass? Was his arm strength really a myth and couldn't throw a ball through a glass window from 5 FEET AWAY How can you determine that.....HOW
Slobberknocker Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 hmm...a quarterback of unproven talent who "can't lead" and in whom the team has no confidence? Yup..there will be 31 teams lining up at our doors for the opportunity to get him. We might even get another number one draft choice! Let's get real. If they feel that way about him, let him go and do it now. Call it the curse of the "Tulane Turnover Torpedo"... LOL. Patrick Ramsey and Losman straght up for a peanut butter sandwich and a pack of gum.
MDH Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 The thing is, I will never think that it is OK for a rookie with a strange haircut to run around screaming at, and high-fiving veterans in ANY profession. Veterans rarely look toward untested rookies who were handed a job for inspiration, because they in fact earned a spot on an NFL roster. 645920[/snapback] So you don't like his haircut...JP is an AHOLE! So you don't like that he was still into the game and not pouting after he was benched...JP is an AHOLE! You make some good points.
ndirish1978 Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 How many FUGGIN years do we have to not make the playoffs before you guys realize that the time for patience ended a long time ago. Damnit, Moulds was a young player when I first heard all this conversation but it was RJ then; about how Flutie was the best, then the worst; about how travis henry got shafted, then how he was the devil. You guys content to be losers? I'm not. JP has had 2 quarters that havent SUCKED and so far has not garnered ANY respect in the locker room. I don't care who plays for us at QB, but JP sucks. I was hopeful for a minute, then JP proved he had absolutely no mental toughness. He has the tools, but unfortunately for us he plays like a tool. He will not be our QB of the future. I wish I was wrong, but even the coaches disagree. TD screwed us by trying to make a "look at me I am smarter than all of you and always make the right choice" pick and we gave up way too much to get this guy. He gae a good effort, but nothing in that effort has indicated he will ever be a good QB. Sam Gado had a great last few weeks last season for GB. The league didnt trip over itself trying to trade for him just cause of a couple of games. Now, after showing he's injury-prone and struggling for games on end, you want me to agree that we should throw away the offense for the season because of 2 quarters? QBs should get a year to prove themselves just because of the nature of the position, if they cant show they are consistenyl improving and getting a better grasp of the game, they should be gone.
RuntheDamnBall Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Only if it occurs over 2 seasons where he shows he is injury prone, and has exactly 2 good quarters over the span of 2 years and 14 games played in. 645751[/snapback] A !@#$ing broken leg doesn't show you're injury prone. It shows that the retard 'leader' of the players' union doesn't know what a goddamned red shirt means in training camp. If he was getting regular groin or knee injuries that's one thing. But I'm sick of the stupid "injury-prone" statements. It's clear you'll pull anything out of thin air to criticize Losman.
RuntheDamnBall Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 How in the fricken Devils ASS can you determine after one year where JPL didn't even get a full season can you determine that he isn't fit to play in the NFL..... Did he bounce all his throws off the ground? Kept fumbling the ball under center? Dropped the ball if a defender got close? Curled into a fetal position if he was about to get hit? Mouthed off his teamates to the media? Never completed a pass? Was his arm strength really a myth and couldn't throw a ball through a glass window from 5 FEET AWAY How can you determine that.....HOW 646010[/snapback] Don't even bother, man. This sh-- is like arguing with a brick wall. Except for the opposition has less going on upstairs. Make rational statements and you'll just get a lot of "but... but... he sucks!" and a few unfounded statements made after seeing half a season of stats under a moron for a coach and a sieve for a line, while the 'star' receiver pouts like a 4-year old. Apparently that's enough for some people. Let's just draft Cutler now so we can get over him and draft the Notre Dame QB the next year. Idiots.
Ramius Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 It is certainly OK for you to no longer respect my football posts. The thing is, I will never think that it is OK for a rookie with a strange haircut to run around screaming at, and high-fiving veterans in ANY profession. Veterans rarely look toward untested rookies who were handed a job for inspiration, because they in fact earned a spot on an NFL roster. Perhaps we can agree on this. 645920[/snapback] The fact that you hate his HAIRCUT shows alot of your prejudiced hatred for JP, and also shows that your opinion will be skewed because of your feelings toward him. I suppose you'd rather have a QB that just goes "oh well, another INT" and yanks his chinstrap?
Ramius Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Don't even bother, man. This sh-- is like arguing with a brick wall. Except for the opposition has less going on upstairs. Make rational statements and you'll just get a lot of "but... but... he sucks!" and a few unfounded statements made after seeing half a season of stats under a moron for a coach and a sieve for a line, while the 'star' receiver pouts like a 4-year old. Apparently that's enough for some people. Let's just draft Cutler now so we can get over him and draft the Notre Dame QB the next year. Idiots. 646057[/snapback] Amen. You get nothing but static when you bring up good facts about JP. I love how VA just "knows" that JP will be a bust. So VA, if you are so knowledgeable in the field of scouting to know JP is a bust, why arent you a professional scout?
Mark VI Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 How in the fricken Devils ASS can you determine after one year where JPL didn't even get a full season can you determine that he isn't fit to play in the NFL..... Did he bounce all his throws off the ground? Kept fumbling the ball under center? Dropped the ball if a defender got close? Curled into a fetal position if he was about to get hit? 646010[/snapback] Let's leave Bledsoe out of this thread.
finknottle Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 There was a reason. The reason was that this team couldn't win with Bledsoe. That was proven. JP happened to be the young QB on the roster and they gave him a shot. It happens more often then you think. Look at what the Chargers are doing. JP was hit with a bad injury at the worst time. Then he was thown to the lions without one decent lineman to protect him. People are going to hate on JP because that's what Bills fans do. The Bills are going nowhere this season so it'a a perfect time to build a line and give the kid his shot. The only problem I have is when will Marv start to address the O-line? 645704[/snapback] Proven? It would be more believable if the Bills weren't coming off a winning season under Bledsoe. So what would it take to 'prove' to you that JP is or isn't the answer? If DB taking over a 3-13 team and going 8-8, 6-10, and 9-7 proves to you he can't win, where are you putting the bar for JP?
stuckincincy Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 How many FUGGIN years do we have to not make the playoffs before you guys realize that the time for patience ended a long time ago. Damnit, Moulds was a young player when I first heard all this conversation but it was RJ then; about how Flutie was the best, then the worst; about how travis henry got shafted, then how he was the devil. You guys content to be losers? I'm not. JP has had 2 quarters that havent SUCKED and so far has not garnered ANY respect in the locker room. I don't care who plays for us at QB, but JP sucks. I was hopeful for a minute, then JP proved he had absolutely no mental toughness. He has the tools, but unfortunately for us he plays like a tool. He will not be our QB of the future. I wish I was wrong, but even the coaches disagree. TD screwed us by trying to make a "look at me I am smarter than all of you and always make the right choice" pick and we gave up way too much to get this guy. He gae a good effort, but nothing in that effort has indicated he will ever be a good QB. Sam Gado had a great last few weeks last season for GB. The league didnt trip over itself trying to trade for him just cause of a couple of games. Now, after showing he's injury-prone and struggling for games on end, you want me to agree that we should throw away the offense for the season because of 2 quarters? QBs should get a year to prove themselves just because of the nature of the position, if they cant show they are consistenyl improving and getting a better grasp of the game, they should be gone. 646040[/snapback] FUGG*N SUCK*D su*ks There you go again...
1billsfan Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Personally, I have little sympathy for JP. He took the field and looked and acted like an amateurish a-hole, AND he sucked. 645838[/snapback] Chris Kelsay Bennie Anderson Mike Williams Trey Teague Chris Villarial Nate Clements Eric Moulds Sam Adams Mark Cambell Daimon Shelton So you think that these "veterans" didn't play like amateurish a-holes in 2005??????? The sad thing here is that so many Bills fans buy into the myth that this team has a very good group of veterans who are being forced to play with a lousy player in JP Losman. I have little sympathy for these fans. BTW, every single one of those guys sucked in 2005.
apuszczalowski Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 How many FUGGIN years do we have to not make the playoffs before you guys realize that the time for patience ended a long time ago. 646040[/snapback] The problem is it is not that simple to put together a winning team. You don't just cut every player you have and sign a bunch of names and you have a playoff team. You have to develop players, make them learn your system, get your team to gel as a team and play together weither they are a rookie or a veteran they will play together. If TD and Mularky where still here I would be with you on this. I would be arguing that it has been enough time to develop a team and we should be playoff bound. Unfortunately we have a mess to clean up from the previous GM who failed over his 5 years here and now a new guy is here to clean it up and try to right the ship. Problem is it can't happen overnight. I'm sick of rebuilding too, but with the new GM I am willing to give them some time to show me they can do it and make this team successful for years to come, not just 1 year and then back to the bottom. it took the Bengals years to get back to being a successful team. They finally found a good coach, who stepped in and turned the franchise around after years of failure. But he didn't do it over night, they struggled for a bit and kept on there plan and became a playoff team again
grape ape Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 How in the fricken Devils ASS can you determine after one year where JPL didn't even get a full season can you determine that he isn't fit to play in the NFL..... Did he bounce all his throws off the ground? Kept fumbling the ball under center? Dropped the ball if a defender got close? Curled into a fetal position if he was about to get hit? Mouthed off his teamates to the media? Never completed a pass? Was his arm strength really a myth and couldn't throw a ball through a glass window from 5 FEET AWAY How can you determine that.....HOW 646010[/snapback] understand your frustration the organization is trying to pass Detroit for laughing stock rights
Rico Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Let's leave Bledsoe out of this thread. 646071[/snapback]
VABills Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Amen. You get nothing but static when you bring up good facts about JP. I love how VA just "knows" that JP will be a bust. So VA, if you are so knowledgeable in the field of scouting to know JP is a bust, why arent you a professional scout? 646065[/snapback] How do you know I'm not? Did you know most teams have volunteer scouts who read, and disect film for the game day coaches? Did you know that a lot of times the scouts for said team, actually earn paying jobs by doing that? Did you? Did you ever think that maybe I have sat in on some scouting sessions? Did you think that maybe I do know a thing or two? Just maybe? Ever think that maybe I have had the opportunity to actually sit with players have a beer with them, have them open up some and get some feedback over that beer? Did you ever think I have actually talked with maybe Marv or Greg in the past, shot the sh--, etc.... You might be surprised.
Rico Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 How do you know I'm not? Did you know most teams have volunteer scouts who read, and disect film for the game day coaches? Did you know that a lot of times the scouts for said team, actually earn paying jobs by doing that? Did you? Did you ever think that maybe I have sat in on some scouting sessions? Did you think that maybe I do know a thing or two? Just maybe? Ever think that maybe I have had the opportunity to actually sit with players have a beer with them, have them open up some and get some feedback over that beer? Did you ever think I have actually talked with maybe Marv or Greg in the past, shot the sh--, etc.... You might be surprised. 646098[/snapback] Well, if you recommended Bennie Anderson to the Bills, :fyou
Bill from NYC Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Do you mean the seasoned professional officers, who plant evidence, cover for their "brothers", racially profile people and extort money from drug dealers. If so, I don't think they could get "leadership and inspiration" from Jesus Christ himself. 646002[/snapback] I am very sorry. Seriously. I would never have let the conversation go this far if I had known you were such a douchebag.
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