SACKMARINO Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Jets | Contract update: von Oelhoffen Tue, 28 Mar 2006 22:03:19 -0800 New York Jets DL Kimo von Oelhoffen signed a three-year contract with base salaries of $950,000 (2006), $1.85 million (2007) and $1.7 million (2008). This is the guy that wrecked Carson Palmer's knee in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 To be fair to KVO, as he was going down toward the turf, he was blocked right into Palmer by one of their OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 To be fair to KVO, as he was going down toward the turf, he was blocked right into Palmer by one of their OL. 645300[/snapback] That must be why he wrapped his arm around Palmer's knee, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofton80 Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 All parties said it was fair and clean. I have to wonder why the NFL is looking at it so closely, they obviously feel otherwise. He was blocked down to the ground and then lunged at the Palmer's legs. He was trying to make a play not injure anyone. The momentum of the block did not take him into the QB's legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 All parties said it was fair and clean. I have to wonder why the NFL is looking at it so closely, they obviously feel otherwise. He was blocked down to the ground and then lunged at the Palmer's legs. He was trying to make a play not injure anyone. The momentum of the block did not take him into the QB's legs. 645367[/snapback] The NFL has a strong interest in not having marquee players hurt. They are a good draw. And it points, in a way, to the monetary and cap risk of high draft picks, especially quarterbacks. If Palmer never plays another down, the B'gals owe him the remainder of 24.5 million, 15 or so of which was paid in January, with the rest due early 2007. And the cap hit is something like 15.3 million. It would knock the franchise for a loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Mom Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Why would he have to watch his knees? Does this guy tackle people on the sidelines? I am confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMIEBUF12 Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 The NFL has a strong interest in not having marquee players hurt. They are a good draw. And it points, in a way, to the monetary and cap risk of high draft picks, especially quarterbacks. If Palmer never plays another down, the B'gals owe him the remainder of 24.5 million, 15 or so of which was paid in January, with the rest due early 2007. And the cap hit is something like 15.3 million. It would knock the franchise for a loop. 645382[/snapback] yeah well it is a contact sport and a defensive players job is to take the qb down.if he dosnt lead with his head anywhere else should be fair game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 If von Oelhoffen doesn't make that hit, knocking Palmer out early in that playoff game, we may well have had a whole different playoffs, let alone Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 yeah well it is a contact sport and a defensive players job is to take the qb down.if he dosnt lead with his head anywhere else should be fair game 645615[/snapback] But not after the ball is away, which is clearly was. even if it wasn't intentional, and I am not sure it was, it was late. That is why Palmer was standing there. Yeah, maybe Palmer should have been a little more clued into what was happening at his feet, but von Oelhoffen slammed his shoulder pad right on Palmer's knee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 First off, Losman is, dare I say it, a victim of last year's coaching staff. He was named the starter without earning the job, which is something that even he was uncomfortable with it. As a result, I'm sure his teammates, who have all had to fight to earn their starting spot, did not fully buy in to a QB who was inserted into the mix. That certainly didn't help Losman last year as he tried to keep his starting role. It would also account for any rumoured "team doesn't like him" messages... As to where things are now, it's kind of silly to think that the Bills would be ready to shuffle him off without even seeing him make one throw live, just based on tape. They just started the offseason conditioning program last week, so it seems far too early for the coaching staff to have assessed his current capabilities. Does that mean that Marv and company are not "testing the trade waters?" Absolutely not. You have a 3 way competition at QB (as Marv and Dick pretty much had said all along...Dick saying no one will be handed the starting job at any position, that it has to be earned, and Marv saying they'd be picking up a 2nd tier Free agent QB to give us 3 (non-NFL Europe) QB's), which means that there are 2 out of 3 outcomes that result in Losman not getting the starting job. Now this doesn't mean that Losman only has a 33% chance of getting the job, but if he can't beat out two other candidates in a practice scenario, then he's not going to cut it as a #1 QB for this offense during the season. If one of those two situations happen (Nall or Holcomb get the starting nod), you need to be ready for plan B. Plan B cannot (or at least shouldn't) include keeping Losman as a number 2 so you have to determine what your other options are. A trade is the best overall option because you get something for him. So where people are complaining that Levy won't get anything for Moulds because it's already clear the Bills will release Moulds, he's taking the opposite tack of looking for trade partners first in case he needs to dump Losman. This rumored "trade scenario" is not about Losman losing the team's confidence before he even steps out on the practice field, it's not about dumping a "TD guy," it's talking hypothetically with other teams to guage interest in anticipation of a possible outcome. This scenario would be completely consistent with everything we've heard from the coaching staff and front office, and I haven't seen them do anything that's inconsistent with what they've said they were going to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 First off, he needs to dump. 646789[/snapback] Cliff's Notes version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 First off, Losman is, dare I say it, a victim of last year's coaching staff. He was named the starter without earning the job, which is something that even he was uncomfortable with it. As a result, I'm sure his teammates, who have all had to fight to earn their starting spot, did not fully buy in to a QB who was inserted into the mix. That certainly didn't help Losman last year as he tried to keep his starting role. It would also account for any rumoured "team doesn't like him" messages... As to where things are now, it's kind of silly to think that the Bills would be ready to shuffle him off without even seeing him make one throw live, just based on tape. They just started the offseason conditioning program last week, so it seems far too early for the coaching staff to have assessed his current capabilities. Does that mean that Marv and company are not "testing the trade waters?" Absolutely not. You have a 3 way competition at QB (as Marv and Dick pretty much had said all along...Dick saying no one will be handed the starting job at any position, that it has to be earned, and Marv saying they'd be picking up a 2nd tier Free agent QB to give us 3 (non-NFL Europe) QB's), which means that there are 2 out of 3 outcomes that result in Losman not getting the starting job. Now this doesn't mean that Losman only has a 33% chance of getting the job, but if he can't beat out two other candidates in a practice scenario, then he's not going to cut it as a #1 QB for this offense during the season. If one of those two situations happen (Nall or Holcomb get the starting nod), you need to be ready for plan B. Plan B cannot (or at least shouldn't) include keeping Losman as a number 2 so you have to determine what your other options are. A trade is the best overall option because you get something for him. So where people are complaining that Levy won't get anything for Moulds because it's already clear the Bills will release Moulds, he's taking the opposite tack of looking for trade partners first in case he needs to dump Losman. This rumored "trade scenario" is not about Losman losing the team's confidence before he even steps out on the practice field, it's not about dumping a "TD guy," it's talking hypothetically with other teams to guage interest in anticipation of a possible outcome. This scenario would be completely consistent with everything we've heard from the coaching staff and front office, and I haven't seen them do anything that's inconsistent with what they've said they were going to do. 646789[/snapback] Well said (X2 ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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