Tom Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 Moulds is an old man. He's been in the NFL for 11 years. Broke in the same year as TO.... What did he just get?
Tom Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 I am burning my 6 yr old son's #80 as we speak. Remove the child first. Â I'm still laughing............
BuffaloTendencies Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 Broke in the same year as TO.... What did he just get? 638301[/snapback] The only thing Moulds and TO have in common are the me first, 5+ million a year isn't enough. Plus, Moulds' teeth are'nt nearly as white and pretty's as TO's.
jocap55 Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 Remove the child first. 638235[/snapback] Â Â well done
34-78-83 Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 Nothing less than a 2nd rounder would be acceptable to me. If we can get an early 3rd for Henry, we can certainly get a 2nd for Moulds. Hate to see him go , but if he doesn't want to be here, then there's really no discussion.
BillsGuyInMalta Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 I really dont think its any problem finding a team who WANTS Eric Moulds. I dont even think it'll be that hard to get decent 2nd or 3rd round compensation for him. Â However, Eric's contract will really hurt us...plus, teams may just wait us out until we release him...why give up a draft pick when Eric said he'll never play for us again?
34-78-83 Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 I really dont think its any problem finding a team who WANTS Eric Moulds. I dont even think it'll be that hard to get decent 2nd or 3rd round compensation for him. However, Eric's contract will really hurt us...plus, teams may just wait us out until we release him...why give up a draft pick when Eric said he'll never play for us again? 638352[/snapback]  Good points. If he doesn't play then he won't get his non-guaranteed money (if I understand correctly ) so we'd be taking the cap hit that we have to take for him anyway, and nothing more.
Dan Gross Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 Nothing less than a 2nd rounder would be acceptable to me. If we can get an early 3rd for Henry, we can certainly get a 2nd for Moulds. Hate to see him go , but if he doesn't want to be here, then there's really no discussion. 638349[/snapback] Â It's not as much about the pick as 1.) Moulds finding out what he's truly worth, and if he still wants to bolt, 2.) the Bills picking where he goes...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 However, Eric's contract will really hurt us...plus, teams may just wait us out until we release him...why give up a draft pick when Eric said he'll never play for us again? Hurt us how? The Bills save $5.5M if he's traded or released before June 1st (and they MIGHT even be able to spread out the $3.8M cap hit over 2 seasons if he's released BEFORE June 1st, as per the new CBA). And Moulds would easily restructure or take a paycut to a team he'd like to go to, no?
billsfan182 Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 I say we package Moulds and a 2nd for a 1st to Eagles. Then w/ money reamining go out and sign Neil, and make an offer to Runyan or Ashworth.
Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-b...ov=ap&type=lgns  Well it's safe to say is as good as gone now. So now the question remains...Who will want to trade for him.  As for me, I say the Eagles because they have no quality, starting WR's.
PromoTheRobot Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-b...ov=ap&type=lgns Well it's safe to say is as good as gone now. So now the question remains...Who will want to trade for him.  As for me, I say the Eagles because they have no quality, starting WR's. 638468[/snapback] It won't be for anyone in our division. I think Philly is a good place for Eric. The question is who does Philly, or whatever team we deal with, have that we want?  PTR
Olaf Fub Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 OK, I'll guess. San Diego. A contender, lousy WRs and AJ Smith is familiar with him.
The Rev.Mattb74 ESQ. Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 Seatle for a 3rd or 4th round pick. Maybe Philly, possibility Denver
PromoTheRobot Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 No one has brought up a player-for-player trade. Could the Bills get some O or D line help for Moulds? Would a #1 or #2 pick be better than a player? Â PTR
The Rev.Mattb74 ESQ. Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 No one has brought up a player-for-player trade. Could the Bills get some O or D line help for Moulds? Would a #1 or #2 pick be better than a player? PTR 638494[/snapback] While I would rather get a player for Moulds and that seems a very good possibility, I think teams looking to get Moulds are the teams trying to win the big dance now. I dont think those teams would be likely to give up one of the pieces they already have in place.
Pyrite Gal Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 One of the pages from the TD book (many pages were flawed but some of his moves and skills were quite good) that it seems the Bills are following is to let a player who wants out seek a trade and do a chunk of the GMs work. Â Its a smart move in a negotiation because if the Bills call first then the other team gets to lead us through the negotiating process. While the Bills are still the seller and the other team has a buyers advantage that they can "pretend" to walk out of the showroom to wedge a bit more out of us, by having the player make the initial ask, as we did in the Travis Henry case it puts us on a more equal footing with the "buyer". This is also similar to the Henry case in that the player clearly had burned bridges and was not going to come back, but the player is still under contract to us and we own him. Â The Moulds situation is a bit different in that we owe him the big bucks while TH was mere chump change to allow him to sit if we chose. However, Moulds would really need to pretend to be interested in being a Bill while playing like a schmuck in order for us to pay and if he played this card it would make his name crap to his teammates and other NFL players and not be a smart move for a player of his age. Â My assumption has been that Denver is a WR away from going even deeper in the playoffs and Moulds would be high on their lisr/ However, I am curious what those who scan the rest of the MFL say in terms of what other teams need WRs and what they could part with in exchange for Moulds.
apuszczalowski Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 I brought that up in a couple other posts about a player for player, and i thought Philly was also shopping a lineman, or a safety that wanted out, but was not 100% sure. Could we not maybe use him to even trade for a RFA (trade moulds for the right to the player after making a deal for them.
smuvtalker Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 I would love to see a team give up a 3rd rounder for Moulds, but heck that might even be asking too much...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted March 22, 2006 Posted March 22, 2006 I'd take nothing lower then a 4th for moulds. I think Moulds will have trade value even though his cap hit is high. If he's traded to a good team he'll be willing to re-do his deal more then likely. On a good team he's easily 1200 yard 80+ catch wr. He'll have value for a team looking for a wr such as... KC,DEN,Philly,The Vikings, NE(although I would under no circumstances trade him to ne unless they're ponying up a 1st rd pick)
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