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Holy hell, you have taken lying to a whole new level. Why do people even post here? We can just have you make sh-- up, attribute it to anyone you feel like and post it.  :lol:

 

I am tired of your crap. You have no desire to actually have conversations with people. You purposely lie and distort people's views. You are done.

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I have to concur with Ken here, Mickey. You just took everything the guy said out of context. I think you are going out of your way to make a point, and are not really interested in debating issues on this one...

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JSP: "How about we let the Government sterilize the poor?"

 

Conservatives? Mean? Perish the thought.

 

Please. Ever heard of sarcasm? I was taking Coli's idea that the gubmint should be handing out free birth control and pushing it to the extreme to highlight the utter STUPIDITY of having the gubmint involved in the contraception business.

 

or maybe you're just numb to sarcasm by now.

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eu... looks like this one has not even the 9 bucks to buy his pack... i understand after a while it gets on your nerves but it looks like you have past the boiling point!! what about using your hand?!!

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Stop making negative references to the market choices of the enate side of your clan.

 

Feel free to discuss the blood that flowed thanks to your Empire and Republic...

 

Oh...nice riots November last, and these past few days.

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The cult is REALLY upset this thread came back to life... right @ScotSHO?

 

Scott doesn't care if his cult takes away FKN CONTRACEPTION - this freak is upset I am highlighting it... 

 

@Doc - not transformative, eh?  Totes normal.

 

 

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Senate Republicans block consideration of bill to create a ‘right to contraception’

 

"Senate Republicans on Wednesday blocked consideration of legislation that would create a federal right to birth control, after Republicans argued the bill was unnecessary and overly broad. 

 

The vote failed 51-39. It needed 60 votes to proceed to a vote on the underlying legislation. "

 

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"The bill would guarantee the legal right for individuals to get and use contraception and for health care providers to provide contraception, information, referrals and services related to contraception. It would apply to hormonal birth control pills, the “morning after” pill, intrauterine devices (IUDs) and other methods. 

 

It would also prohibit the federal government and any state from administering or enforcing any law, rule or regulation to prohibit or restrict the sale or use of contraception. "

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Some classic accounts in this thread...

 

Alaska Darin, KRC, The Crap Throwing Monkey, Ghost of BiB, stuckincincy, Johnny Coli ( a scientist on the left who wasn't a moron)

 

Now it's been stained by Billsfuk.c and The King.

 

Sad.

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33 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

Senate Republicans block consideration of bill to create a ‘right to contraception’

 

"Senate Republicans on Wednesday blocked consideration of legislation that would create a federal right to birth control, after Republicans argued the bill was unnecessary and overly broad. 

 

The vote failed 51-39. It needed 60 votes to proceed to a vote on the underlying legislation. "

 

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"The bill would guarantee the legal right for individuals to get and use contraception and for health care providers to provide contraception, information, referrals and services related to contraception. It would apply to hormonal birth control pills, the “morning after” pill, intrauterine devices (IUDs) and other methods. 

 

It would also prohibit the federal government and any state from administering or enforcing any law, rule or regulation to prohibit or restrict the sale or use of contraception. "

 

So...searching for a solution to a non-existent problem? 

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44 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

So...searching for a solution to a non-existent problem? 


Some States Already Are Targeting Birth Control


Conservative attacks on birth control could threaten access

 

People are already targeting contraceptives and Clarence Thomas, correctly following the logic used to decide Dobbs, suggested the court should revisit its decision to allow a right to contraception (as well as gay marriage and sxdomy). (Concurrence at page 119)

 

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Reminder for the more dense people here   (and from 18 years ago)

 

 

Let's Call it the Payouts for Planned Parenthood Act

KAREN TOWNSEND 

 

 

FTA:

 

Democrats are making an issue where there is none. They claim a right to contraception is endangered if Republicans win back the White House and the Senate. They link this unnecessary concern to the ruling by the Supreme Court on Dobbs. 

 

The right to contraception already exists under the Griswald ruling the Supreme Court handed down before Roe. This is a bogus issue meant to divide voters. Democrats have little to run on so they are making up issues. 

 

Senator Ed Markey (D-MA) introduced the “Right to Contraception Act” and it was voted on Wednesday. The move was meant to get Republicans on the record as voting against codifying the right to contraception in the Senate.

 

The unnecessary bill was mostly a sop to Planned Parenthood. Shocker, I know. The true purpose of the bill was to increase funding for Planned Parenthood, the biggest abortion provider in the United States. The bill could be called the Payouts for Planned Parenthood bill. 

 

It overrides conscience protections while creating a right to abortion drugs as it funnels money to Planned Parenthood. There is no need to create the right, it already exists.

 

The bill was going to fail all along. Democrats knew they would not get the 60 votes needed but this was meant to be a show vote. It failed on a cloture vote of 51-30, so it did not move forward. All but two Republicans voted to block it. 

 

https://hotair.com/karen-townsend/2024/06/06/lets-call-it-the-payouts-for-planned-parenthood-act-n3789738

 

 

 

 

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29 minutes ago, B-Man said:

The right to contraception already exists under the Griswald ruling the Supreme Court handed down before Roe.

Griswold (how's that for editing, hotair.com!) established the very same right to privacy on which its successor, Roe, depended.

When Alito and friends pulled the right to privacy rug out from under the plaintiffs in Dobbs, Griswold was left equally susceptible.

So the only thing keeping it in place is that no state has seen fit to re-legislate Griswold-type limits on contraception. Yet.

Things like IUDs and morning after pills are absolutely susceptible to "life begins at conception" based laws. The Democrats are right to put Republican Senators on the record here. Why wouldn't they recognize that Griswold is still good law?

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1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Griswold (how's that for editing, hotair.com!) established the very same right to privacy on which its successor, Roe, depended.

When Alito and friends pulled the right to privacy rug out from under the plaintiffs in Dobbs, Griswold was left equally susceptible.

So the only thing keeping it in place is that no state has seen fit to re-legislate Griswold-type limits on contraception. Yet.

Things like IUDs and morning after pills are absolutely susceptible to "life begins at conception" based laws. The Democrats are right to put Republican Senators on the record here. Why wouldn't they recognize that Griswold is still good law?

 

There must have been a typo on B-Bot's twitter fees.

 

Tough to misspell when all you do is copy paste.

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3 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Griswold (how's that for editing, hotair.com!) established the very same right to privacy on which its successor, Roe, depended.

When Alito and friends pulled the right to privacy rug out from under the plaintiffs in Dobbs, Griswold was left equally susceptible.

So the only thing keeping it in place is that no state has seen fit to re-legislate Griswold-type limits on contraception. Yet.

Things like IUDs and morning after pills are absolutely susceptible to "life begins at conception" based laws. The Democrats are right to put Republican Senators on the record here. Why wouldn't they recognize that Griswold is still good law?


Past SCOTUS(es): The Constitution includes a Substantive Due Process right that supports unenumerated rights. We find such rights exist to protect the rights to contraception, abortion, s*domy, mixed race marriages, and gay marriages.

 

Current SCOTUS: Unenumerated rights are BS and therefore we overturn Roe and Casey

 

Pundits: well this is probably as far as it goes. 
 

Clarence Thomas: We should go after the rights to contraception, s*domy, and gay marriage. But not mixed race marriages, for some reason…

 

Anyone following the logic of the opinion: if there are no unenumerated rights, then someone just needs to bring cases to SCOTUS challenging Griswold, Lawrence, Loving, and Obergefell and SCOTUS will be sympathetic to them. 

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3 hours ago, Gene Frenkle said:

 

There must have been a typo on B-Bot's twitter fees.

 

Tough to misspell when all you do is copy paste.

 

It’s actually misspelled in the article itself.

 

Tells you quite a bit about the legal scholarship going on at that site. 

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More education for the PPP lemmings.

 

 

Senate Democrats Continue to Grandstand on Contraception

MICHAEL NEW FROM NRO June 06, 2024

   

Today the U.S. Senate voted on the Right to Contraception Act, which fell short of the 60 votes needed for passage. The bill was sponsored by Senator Ed Markey (D., Mass.) and would have codified in federal law the right to contraception. Contraception is widely used by many Americans and often polls well, so it is not surprising that Democrats and supporters of legal abortion are grandstanding on the issue. Indeed, the aim of the bill was to solve a problem that doesn’t exist.

 

First, contraceptives are widely available. Moreover, studies have shown that every few sexually active women forgo contraceptives because of either cost or availability. The most common reasons women cite for forgoing contraception are that they wish to show trust in a partner or that they are willing to risk pregnancy. Given that Medicaid already covers contraception for low-income women, it is unlikely that the bill would have significantly increased contraceptive use.

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/senate-democrats-continue-to-grandstand-on-contraception/

 

 

It's a mistake to assess this on its merits. This isn't about contraception, and it's not even mainly about abortion.

 

It's a scare tactic to make the Supreme Court look extreme, meant as fodder for Democrats on the campaign trail.

 

Given that contraception and even the Supreme Court are low-priority issues in a cycle dominated by inflation, immigration, and radical chaos across America,

 

it looks pretty desperate. 

 

https://hotair.com/headlines/2024/06/06/senate-democrats-continue-to-grandstand-on-contraception-n3789759

 

 

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