Mickey Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 Contraception including natural family planning instruction and fertility treatments are now banned at public health clinics in Missouri. It just promotes promiscuity among the unwashed. Can't have that. "The House voted 96-59 to delete the funding for contraception and infertility treatments after Rep. Susan Phillips told lawmakers that anti-abortion groups such as Missouri Right to Life were opposed to the spending. "If you hand out contraception to single women, we're saying promiscuity is OK as a state, and I am not in support of that," Phillips, R-Kansas City, said in an interview." Missouri The vote wasn't even close.
PastaJoe Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 It's the equivalent of banning it for those who otherwise can't afford it. But then the same people will complain about supporting more kids on Welfare when there's more unwanted pregnancies.
meazza Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 So these people think that people will stop getting busy if they can't get free access to contraception. Ya that will work.
/dev/null Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 Note to self, don't try to hookup in Missouri Oh wait a second, might want to read the article first instead of relying on a brief summary on an internet message board. DING! HotPockets® done! Sweet!! what was I saying?
olivier in france Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 they use to say "if you have no money to pay for hobbies and leisure activities at least sex is free..." well not anymore in Misery, euh sorry Missouri...
Alaska Darin Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 Heaven forbid people take responsibility for their own behavior when the government is still around.
KRC Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 Heaven forbid people take responsibility for their own behavior when the government is still around. 633105[/snapback] Personal responsibility? What the hell is that?
Mickey Posted March 17, 2006 Author Posted March 17, 2006 Funny, preventing people from making the responsible choice, contraception & safe sex, is considered by this upside down crew to be promoting personal responsibility. It is a health clinic for people who have no insurance and can't afford medical care. This is a health issue. Banning contraceptives, even instruction on natural family planning from those clinics, has a very real effect. For those of us who live in the real world, this will not result in any less sexual activity. While some of you are pointing fingers or bewailing the lack of personal responsibility in the modern world, the rest of us will be trying to figure out what to do with the unwanted babies and increased spread of disease that will result. Maybe we should shut down drug and alcohol rehab facilities and refuse all health care treatment subsidized in anyway by the government for cancer patients who smoked or anyone whose unhealthy choices contribute to their illnesses.
KRC Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 Funny, preventing people from making the responsible choice, contraception & safe sex, is considered by this upside down crew to be promoting personal responsibility. It is a health clinic for people who have no insurance and can't afford medical care. This is a health issue. Banning contraceptives, even instruction on natural family planning from those clinics, has a very real effect. For those of us who live in the real world, this will not result in any less sexual activity. While some of you are pointing fingers or bewailing the lack of personal responsibility in the modern world, the rest of us will be trying to figure out what to do with the unwanted babies and increased spread of disease that will result. Maybe we should shut down drug and alcohol rehab facilities and refuse all health care treatment subsidized in anyway by the government for cancer patients who smoked or anyone whose unhealthy choices contribute to their illnesses. 633115[/snapback] I just picked up a 12-pack of Trojan condoms for $8.99. Don't give me this crap about not being about not being able to afford it, especially in the light of the fact that diseases and children are a HELL of a lot more expensive than $8.99. The responsible choice is to get the protection instead of the six-pack of beer, the cup of coffee each day, the McDonalds run, etc. It is extremely easy to come up with $8.99, even on the tightest of budgets. Again...personal responsibility....get some.
Alaska Darin Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 Funny, preventing people from making the responsible choice, contraception & safe sex, is considered by this upside down crew to be promoting personal responsibility. It is a health clinic for people who have no insurance and can't afford medical care. This is a health issue. Banning contraceptives, even instruction on natural family planning from those clinics, has a very real effect. For those of us who live in the real world, this will not result in any less sexual activity. While some of you are pointing fingers or bewailing the lack of personal responsibility in the modern world, the rest of us will be trying to figure out what to do with the unwanted babies and increased spread of disease that will result. Maybe we should shut down drug and alcohol rehab facilities and refuse all health care treatment subsidized in anyway by the government for cancer patients who smoked or anyone whose unhealthy choices contribute to their illnesses. 633115[/snapback] Whoa is me. I'm sure you'll send a check to your local Planned Parenthood charity. Won't someone please lobby the government to provide me a new Z06, because I'd be a less of a boon to society if I had one.
KRC Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 Whoa is me. I'm sure you'll send a check to your local Planned Parenthood charity. Won't someone please lobby the government to provide me a new Z06, because I'd be a less of a boon to society if I had one. 633118[/snapback] You cold-hearted bastard. Didn't you know that all government spending should be based on emotion?
Simon Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 Funny, preventing people from making the responsible choice, contraception & safe sex, is considered by this upside down crew to be promoting personal responsibility. Cutting gov't funding = preventing people from making choices? I don't care for the religious right and their involvement in policy annoys the hell out of me. But your choice of words continues to be unfortunate. Nobody has "banned" contraception or is "preventing people from making a choice". No matter how poor or stupid you are you can still go spend a dollar on a rubber if you need one. If you want to start a discussion on the merits (or lack thereof) of this issue, then perhaps you'd be better served to stick to the actual issues instead of going hyperbolic on us. Your melodramatic use of language serves to accomplish nothing more than eliciting emotional responses and undermining what may possibly be a valid point. Cya
OnTheRocks Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 Funny, preventing people from making the responsible choice, contraception & safe sex, is considered by this upside down crew to be promoting personal responsibility. It is a health clinic for people who have no insurance and can't afford medical care. This is a health issue. Banning contraceptives, even instruction on natural family planning from those clinics, has a very real effect. For those of us who live in the real world, this will not result in any less sexual activity. While some of you are pointing fingers or bewailing the lack of personal responsibility in the modern world, the rest of us will be trying to figure out what to do with the unwanted babies and increased spread of disease that will result. Maybe we should shut down drug and alcohol rehab facilities and refuse all health care treatment subsidized in anyway by the government for cancer patients who smoked or anyone whose unhealthy choices contribute to their illnesses. 633115[/snapback] i don't care what kind of dress and make up you put on your spin.....it is not "banned".
VABills Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 i don't care what kind of dress and make up you put on your spin.....it is not "banned". 633141[/snapback] In addition just because the government of that state is no longer paying there are plenty of free clinics that these folks get there rubbers from. You want free rubbers, here you go: http://www.jollyjohns.com/
olivier in france Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 I just picked up a 12-pack of Trojan condoms for $8.99. Don't give me this crap about not being about not being able to afford it, especially in the light of the fact that diseases and children are a HELL of a lot more expensive than $8.99. The responsible choice is to get the protection instead of the six-pack of beer, the cup of coffee each day, the McDonalds run, etc. It is extremely easy to come up with $8.99, even on the tightest of budgets. Again...personal responsibility....get some. 633117[/snapback] 8.99 dollars for a 12 pack!! that's awfully expensive!! at least 3 times the price it costs here! now i know where that anger comes from, the root of that hawkish american attitude, that need to show its power to the rest of the world... when it costs that much to make love you don't do it as often as you should!!
RayFinkle Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 8.99 dollars for a 12 pack!! that's awfully expensive!! at least 3 times the price it costs here! now i know where that anger comes from, the root of that hawkish american attitude, that need to show its power to the rest of the world... when it costs that much to make love you don't do it as often as you should!! 633203[/snapback] I pay $8.99 for a 12 pack as well. Of course they are Magnums, so they are a bit more pricey....
Ghost of BiB Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 I pay $8.99 for a 12 pack as well. Of course they are Magnums, so they are a bit more pricey.... 633229[/snapback] Plus it sets you guys up for a year, so that's really pretty cost effective.
RayFinkle Posted March 17, 2006 Posted March 17, 2006 Plus it sets you guys up for a year, so that's really pretty cost effective. 633235[/snapback]
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