Ghost of BiB Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Watching some early morning news shows here and there, I'm still seeing people stating with "conviction": "It's not foreign owned companies we are objecting to, it's companies owned by foreign governments" OK. I'm still dumbfounded that no one is actively discussing China and COSCO. Do the anti-Arabs really think nobody is going to notice that China Shipping is owned by the Chinese government? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Watching some early morning news shows here and there, I'm still seeing people stating with "conviction": "It's not foreign owned companies we are objecting to, it's companies owned by foreign governments" OK. I'm still dumbfounded that no one is actively discussing China and COSCO. Do the anti-Arabs really think nobody is going to notice that China Shipping is owned by the Chinese government? 626630[/snapback] It is tough to grasp two things at the same time. Right now, we are bashing Arabs. Once that dies down, then we can start hating the Asians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of BiB Posted March 13, 2006 Author Share Posted March 13, 2006 It is tough to grasp two things at the same time. Right now, we are bashing Arabs. Once that dies down, then we can start hating the Asians. 626634[/snapback] Once it dies down, we'll be back discussing steroids or video games. This should be grounds for a few more letters or emails. Or could it be, our representatives are misleading us again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRocks Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Beating my dead horse. They have a little blue pill for that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of BiB Posted March 13, 2006 Author Share Posted March 13, 2006 They have a little blue pill for that now. 626659[/snapback] Not worth the money if operating single handed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Coli Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 (edited) Watching some early morning news shows here and there, I'm still seeing people stating with "conviction": "It's not foreign owned companies we are objecting to, it's companies owned by foreign governments" OK. 626630[/snapback] Without getting into whether or not the view is baseless or has merit, I believe that statement means that the deal would have seemed more palatable had the company simply been owned by a foreign entity, and not an actual foreign government. I can see the distinction. It's like the difference between a palestinian owning the company vs. a company owned by the PLO....individual vs. nation-state. EDIT: The PLO is probably not a great example, but you get my meaning. Edited March 13, 2006 by Johnny Coli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 "It's not foreign owned companies we are objecting to, it's companies owned by foreign governments" 626630[/snapback] What's more...what is it about foreign owned companies that makes them less of a security risk than companies owned by foreign governments? You'd almost think it would be the other way around... Funny, too, that this argument is brought to you by the same people who typically argue that anything important should be a government program, and corporations can't be trusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of BiB Posted March 13, 2006 Author Share Posted March 13, 2006 Without getting into whether or not the view is baseless or has merit, I believe that statement means that the deal would have seemed more palatable had the company simply been owned by a foreign entity, and not an actual foreign government. I can see the distinction. It's like the difference between a palestinian owning the company vs. a company owned by the PLO....individual vs. nation-state. EDIT: The PLO is probably not a great example, but you get my meaning. 626667[/snapback] Smokescreen. COSCO is owned by the Chinese government. I don't see any distinction between the UAE owning DPW and China owning COSCO. In fact, as the family pretty well IS the government in Dubai, it's actually less sinister from that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Coli Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Smokescreen. COSCO is owned by the Chinese government. I don't see any distinction between the UAE owning DPW and China owning COSCO. In fact, as the family pretty well IS the government in Dubai, it's actually less sinister from that regard. 626676[/snapback] Like I said, I wasn't commenting on the merits of the statement. I was just trying to see where they were coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Smokescreen. COSCO is owned by the Chinese government. I don't see any distinction between the UAE owning DPW and China owning COSCO. In fact, as the family pretty well IS the government in Dubai, it's actually less sinister from that regard. 626676[/snapback] Brings up another interesting point, too: if the issue is companies owned by foreign governments managing our ports, and not Arabs, how are they going to write the BS xenophobic legislation they're talking about to block DPW without blocking COSCO, without making it look racist? I imagine there's a way...but every way I think of either demonstrates the utterly racist nature of the issue, or royally pisses off the Chinese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of BiB Posted March 13, 2006 Author Share Posted March 13, 2006 Brings up another interesting point, too: if the issue is companies owned by foreign governments managing our ports, and not Arabs, how are they going to write the BS xenophobic legislation they're talking about to block DPW without blocking COSCO, without making it look racist? I imagine there's a way...but every way I think of either demonstrates the utterly racist nature of the issue, or royally pisses off the Chinese. 626684[/snapback] That's sort of my point. Grandfather clause? The expedient thing to do would be to remove the ammendment, and let it die. I don't know if that can even be done. They seem to have painted themselves into a corner. Oh, there are several layers to COSCO's operations, but it's owned actually by the Chinese military, if I'm not mistaken. Now how's THAT for a good idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 What's more...what is it about foreign owned companies that makes them less of a security risk than companies owned by foreign governments? You'd almost think it would be the other way around... Funny, too, that this argument is brought to you by the same people who typically argue that anything important should be a government program, and corporations can't be trusted. 626671[/snapback] And the other side is arguing racism, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 What's more...what is it about foreign owned companies that makes them less of a security risk than companies owned by foreign governments? You'd almost think it would be the other way around... Funny, too, that this argument is brought to you by the same people who typically argue that anything important should be a government program, and corporations can't be trusted. 626671[/snapback] So wait a minute. You're calling the left hypocritical? Wow, earth shattering......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 So wait a minute. You're calling the left hypocritical? Wow, earth shattering......... 627325[/snapback] To be clear: They're all hypocrites. Except this current administration, which is actually very consistent and dedicated to the course they've taken. Whatever it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 To be clear: They're all hypocrites. Except this current administration, which is actually very consistent and dedicated to the course they've taken. Whatever it is. 627346[/snapback] Funny, I actually had politicians in my post instead of the left but changed it. Yes they are all hypocrites, it's just the party NOT in power seems to stick it's foot in it's mouth more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Funny, I actually had politicians in my post instead of the left but changed it. Yes they are all hypocrites, it's just the party NOT in power seems to stick it's foot in it's mouth more often. 627352[/snapback] That's why they're not in power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Hong Kong & Shanghai Banking Corporation? Oh...HSBC? Oh okay. Thats american. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Hong Kong & Shanghai Banking Corporation? Oh...HSBC? Oh okay. Thats american. 627684[/snapback] Don't let the name fool you. It's a perfectly fine lilly white British bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC-Bills Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Watching some early morning news shows here and there, I'm still seeing people stating with "conviction": "It's not foreign owned companies we are objecting to, it's companies owned by foreign governments" OK. I'm still dumbfounded that no one is actively discussing China and COSCO. Do the anti-Arabs really think nobody is going to notice that China Shipping is owned by the Chinese government? 626630[/snapback] Yeah, my dad and I were talking about that last night. It's amazing how stupid these people are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC-Bills Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 So wait a minute. You're calling the left hypocritical? Wow, earth shattering......... 627325[/snapback] Actullay Chef, I think CTM was making that one up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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