dib Posted March 3, 2006 Posted March 3, 2006 Rent or buy? How is it, relative to Full Metal Jacket ?
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted March 3, 2006 Posted March 3, 2006 I haven't seen it but my roomate who's a pretty big movie buff (has well over 200 dvds) says it's decent. Proabably a rent. He was real excited when it came out, and was a little disappointed when he saw it but still enjoyed it.
ofiba Posted March 3, 2006 Posted March 3, 2006 I'd say rent. It's not something you'd want to watch over and over, but it's worth renting.
aussiew Posted March 3, 2006 Posted March 3, 2006 I liked it. I learned a little about the crap behind the 1st gulf war (if it's true)
tennesseeboy Posted March 3, 2006 Posted March 3, 2006 Definitely not a buy, unless you want to see Jake Gyllenhal running around in a Santa jockstrap. If that turns you on..get Brokeback Mountain.
bartshan-83 Posted March 3, 2006 Posted March 3, 2006 He was real excited when it came out, and was a little disappointed when he saw it but still enjoyed it. 617409[/snapback] My feeling exactly. I heard later that it made a whole lot more sense (and was more powerful obviously) if you had served.
VABills Posted March 3, 2006 Posted March 3, 2006 My feeling exactly. I heard later that it made a whole lot more sense (and was more powerful obviously) if you had served. 617719[/snapback] That is correct.
CosmicBills Posted March 3, 2006 Posted March 3, 2006 Rent or buy? How is it, relative to Full Metal Jacket ? 617379[/snapback] The first 5 min ARE Full Metal Jacket (the training sequences in the very, very beginning). It is almost a carbon copy. Then it falls apart. However, Saarsgard, Foxx and Jake are very good in the film.
VABills Posted March 3, 2006 Posted March 3, 2006 The first 5 min ARE Full Metal Jacket (the training sequences in the very, very beginning). It is almost a carbon copy. Then it falls apart. However, Saarsgard, Foxx and Jake are very good in the film. 617727[/snapback] It doesn't fall apart. You had to be a Marine to understand.
IDBillzFan Posted March 3, 2006 Posted March 3, 2006 It doesn't fall apart. You had to be a Marine to understand. 617734[/snapback] Oh no. You didn't. Please.
Ghost of BiB Posted March 3, 2006 Posted March 3, 2006 Oh no. You didn't. Please. 617746[/snapback] Don't worry. He's going to have a meltdown in the "signing the cut player" thing.
IDBillzFan Posted March 3, 2006 Posted March 3, 2006 Don't worry. He's going to have a meltdown in the "signing the cut player" thing. 617751[/snapback] I was going to get involved, but I never signed a cut player before, so I wouldn't understand.
VABills Posted March 3, 2006 Posted March 3, 2006 I was going to get involved, but I never signed a cut player before, so I wouldn't understand. 617759[/snapback] Me either. That's why I ask. And yes I did. Better be careful, I believe I have a shovel around here.
CosmicBills Posted March 3, 2006 Posted March 3, 2006 It doesn't fall apart. You had to be a Marine to understand. 617734[/snapback] I'm sure if you're a marine the movie holds more weight. Same can be said about Saving Private Ryan, if you were a WWII vet that movie has so much more relevance than it would to an ordinary civillian. The difference is SPR has a better story (from purely a storytelling/cinematic pov). Jarhead's STORY doesn't follow through, thus in my mind, it falls apart. Jarhead is good. But for my money, Three Kings is a better Gulf War film.
VABills Posted March 3, 2006 Posted March 3, 2006 I'm sure if you're a marine the movie holds more weight. Same can be said about Saving Private Ryan, if you were a WWII vet that movie has so much more relevance than it would to an ordinary civillian. The difference is SPR has a better story (from purely a storytelling/cinematic pov). Jarhead's STORY doesn't follow through, thus in my mind, it falls apart. Jarhead is good. But for my money, Three Kings is a better Gulf War film. 617764[/snapback] And to me Three Kings blew chunks, and I guess you don't understand the whole hurry up and wait mentaility.
CosmicBills Posted March 3, 2006 Posted March 3, 2006 And to me Three Kings blew chunks, and I guess you don't understand the whole hurry up and wait mentaility. 617768[/snapback] I understand it. But you get that in Three Kings in the first five minutes of the film. That mentality is what drives virtually all the characters in the story to do what they do. Whereas in Jarhead it just bogs the viewer down in it without giving a solid context for the effects/psychology this has on the soldiers. We get it in flashes (with Saarsgaurd at the end especially) but not enough in my mind. To me, a good story draws you into its world whether you have lived in it before or not. So if you have to be a Marine to get a movie (or a cop/teacher/lawyer etc for any film) something is wrong at a story level. Again, I'm not saying Jarhead is bad, not at all. I thought the acting was great, I'm a fan of Mendes too. It just didn't follow through like it should have (and I'm not talking about them actually seeing action, I get that is the point of the film). Maybe if Jarhead was released five years ago I would feel differently, but I find it frustrating that Three Kings has more relevance to the current situation in Iraq than Jarhead does. And Three Kings isn't supposed to be a "drama" like Jarhead, it was more of a dark comedy in the same vein as Catch 22.
BillsGuyInMalta Posted March 3, 2006 Posted March 3, 2006 And Three Kings isn't supposed to be a "drama" like Jarhead, it was more of a dark comedy in the same vein as Catch 22. 617771[/snapback] "I don't really have a day job, sir"
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