BuffLord Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 This is my first post. After much combine watching, Im convinced that the Bills should take Vernon Davis. I have a feeling that they released Campbell in part due to the likelihood that Davis is at 8 when they pick. look at who is where: Oaks fans page 1) Tex- Reggie Bush 2) NO- Matt Leinhart 3) Tenn- Jay Cutler, could take Young but Cutler has better QB measurables 4) NYJ- D'Brick, could take Young but they may trade to 1 for Lein in which case Tex takes D'Brick here 5) GB- Super Mario, could go Hawk but with Rodgers they have no need for Young 6) SF- AJ Hawk, would take Super Mario, again No need for Young with Alex Smith 7) Oak- Vince Young, if Young drops out of 4, he could easily drop to 7. Even if Young goes before Cutler, Oak could take Cutler. If the choice for them is between TE and possible franchise QB prospect, a young guy that they dont have, they go QB 8) Buff- Davis is sitting here for us!!!!
Astrobot Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 Well thought out, and an excellent first post. Welcome, Lord.
CJPearl2 Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 Welcome to the group. A lot of us here LOVE Vernon Davis, but from all the hype from the combines, he may not be available by 8. Ive heard rumors that San Fran may be taking him at 6.
VABills Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 No way Buffalo picks two TE on the first day in two consecutive drafts. We already have Everett.
BuffLord Posted March 2, 2006 Author Posted March 2, 2006 Well thought out, and an excellent first post.Welcome, Lord. 615755[/snapback] How can they do that when just a few years back Eric Johnson was a big TE name? He was injured all last year with a foot thingy, but he should come back
BuffLord Posted March 2, 2006 Author Posted March 2, 2006 Welcome to the group. A lot of us here LOVE Vernon Davis, but from all the hype from the combines, he may not be available by 8. Ive heard rumors that San Fran may be taking him at 6. 615756[/snapback] Did Everett play a signle play of NFL level football yet? Thats a serious issue. Also, NE has had good luck with Watson AND Graham
JStranger76 Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 Everett is no where close a prospect as Davis. If he didn't blow out his knee we would all have a better idea how weak or strong the position was. This pick would almost guarantee a killer TE corps. If the lines are at least moderatly improved in free agency, I'm behind the pick 110%.
VABills Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 Did Everett play a signle play of NFL level football yet? Thats a serious issue. Also, NE has had good luck with Watson AND Graham 615762[/snapback] But with that arguement , neither has Davis.
Brandon Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 I agree. Unless Mario Williams is sitting there when the Bills draft at #8, then Vernon Davis would be my selection as well. I think he's a top 5 talent in this draft and one of the best prospects in years at a position where the Bills have no proven starter. I just hope he's available at the 8th spot.
BuffLord Posted March 2, 2006 Author Posted March 2, 2006 Everett is no where close a prospect as Davis. If he didn't blow out his knee we would all have a better idea how weak or strong the position was. This pick would almost guarantee a killer TE corps. If the lines are at least moderatly improved in free agency, I'm behind the pick 110%. 615764[/snapback] Your right, the thought was incomplete. 1) Serious injury+not a single NFL snap= big question mark 2) 4.37 40+33 reps+proven TE+#1= a guy we should be looking at at 8 The biggest reason I like this move is that there aint jack at OL or DT thats worthy of a top 8 pick. It isnt Ngata, too many concerns with him showing up when he wants too, and not blowing away the field of DT's at the combine when the workouts was supposed to be his strong suit. D'Brick is gone, Justice may be worthy of the 8th, but hes a career RT. Its tough to take a RT at 8.
Tortured Soul Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 2) 4.37 40+33 reps+proven TE+#1= a guy we should be looking at at 8 615798[/snapback] He hasn't proved anything yet.
5 Wide Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 does anyone know what everetts combine stats were? Or if he didn't participate what his pro day stats were?
5 Wide Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 ok did a little research and here's the scoop on Everett...(cut and pasted from NFL.com) The Liberal Arts major had some very big shoes to fill at the tight end position for the Hurricanes in 2004. The school has become known for producing standout tight ends in recent years, with Bubba Franks (Green Bay, 2000), Jeremy Shockey (New York Giants, 2002) and Kellen Winslow Jr. (Cleveland, 2004) all having been first-round draft picks in the NFL Draft in recent years. Everett hopes to be the next in line to go on from the Miami program to stardom in the professional ranks. Everett originally signed with Miami out of high school in February 2001. He excelled as a defensive end and tight end during his prep career at one of Texas' most tradition-rich high school programs, Thomas Jefferson. He gained more than 300 receiving yards each of his junior and senior seasons and posted 60 tackles and five quarterback sacks as a junior in 1999. Everett earned all-state honors in Class 5A as a senior in 2000 with 49 solo tackles, eight tackles for losses and six quarterback sacks. He also forced six fumbles, garnered four fumble recoveries, and blocked one kick. He concluded his career with Houston Chronicle Texas Top 100, Dallas Morning News Texas Top 100 and Texas Football Top 20 tight end honors. Due to academics, Everett attended Kilgore (Texas) Junior College from 2001-02. As a sophomore, he caught 18 passes for 310 yards (17.2 avg.) and two touchdowns with a long play of 40 yards. He earned first-team All-Southwest Junior College Football Conference honors twice and was rated the second-best junior college player in the nation by Allen Wallace's SuperPrep. He transferred to Miami in 2003, starting four of 13 games. Everett made nine catches for 90 yards (10.0 avg.) and three touchdowns that season. He took over the starting job as a senior, hauling in 23 passes for 310 yards (13.5 avg.) while registering 84 knockdown blocks. In 24 games for the Hurricanes, Everett snatched 32 passes for 400 yards (12.5 avg.) and three touchdowns. ANALYSIS Positives: Has a big frame with good overall muscle development, long, thick arms, with broad shoulders, thick chest, good bubble and thick calves … Shows enough lateral range to avoid the jam and get upfield, possessing the quickness to easily get off the line of scrimmage … Can either power through the jam or use his swim move to escape … Can sink his hips and separate coming out of his breaks, doing a decent job of finding the soft spot to settle when working in the zone … Creates a nice underneath target, especially with his ability to separate and adjust through his routes … Has the arm length and ability to extend for the ball away from the body's frame … Has the speed to run under passes downfield, showing the body control to adjust and position in order to make the catch … Better when blocking on the move than from a stationary position, as he shows alertness picking up linebackers in the open field. Negatives: Plays with adequate alertness, but needs time to digest plays … Plays with good effort, but you'd like to see more aggression in his play, especially as a blocker … He is a good open field blocker, but his in-line blocking technique is a question mark … He leaves his feet too often and really needs to develop lower body strength, as he reaches with his hands, loses position and gets over-extended … Better on underneath routes, as he does not have the speed of a Jeremy Shockey for a vertical attack and does not get into position well in order to quickly turn upfield after the catch … Runs only adequate pass routes, as he tends to round his cuts and take soft angles to the ball … He is a big target in the middle and will compete for the ball, but can also lose concentration when he hears an oncoming defender, resulting in several drops … Not as active with his hands as he needs to be in order to sustain blocks and does not move his feet well, keeping his base too narrow when blocking on the edge … His weight loss during the 2004 season (251 before the year began, 240 after) is a concern, as he needs the additional bulk and strength in order to be effective as a blocker … He struggles to get a good push off the line in running situations due to marginal leg strength … Must do a better job of reading coverages and maintaining a relationship with the quarterback, as he fails to work his way back when the passer is in trouble. INJURY REPORT 2004: Missed the Peach Bowl vs. Florida, the Senior Bowl and could not participate in the agility tests at the combine after he separated his left shoulder in the third quarter of the regular season finale vs. Virginia Tech (12/04). AGILITY CAMPUS: 4.79 in the 40-yard dash … 32 7/8-inch arm length … 9½-inch hands.
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