KRC Posted February 15, 2006 Posted February 15, 2006 I am having a little trouble believing some of the wording here. I understand that it is an English translation, but something does not seem right about the last two responses. The quotes seem a little too "Americanized." I cannot imagine Ali Ibrahim Al-Tikriti talking like this, so is the author taking some liberties?
X. Benedict Posted February 15, 2006 Posted February 15, 2006 Interview 603716[/snapback] Interesting piece. Is this the same guy? Barzan Ibrahim Hassan al-Tikriti
Ghost of BiB Posted February 15, 2006 Author Posted February 15, 2006 I am having a little trouble believing some of the wording here. I understand that it is an English translation, but something does not seem right about the last two responses. The quotes seem a little too "Americanized." I cannot imagine Ali Ibrahim Al-Tikriti talking like this, so is the author taking some liberties? 603728[/snapback] Could be, don't know. I was more interested in the conversation about relationships. They track with a lot of other things I've heard.
X. Benedict Posted February 15, 2006 Posted February 15, 2006 Interesting piece. Is this the same guy? Barzan Ibrahim Hassan al-Tikriti 603729[/snapback] Probably not, I don't understand Iraqi names.... there must be a lot of al-Tikriti's.
KRC Posted February 15, 2006 Posted February 15, 2006 Could be, don't know. I was more interested in the conversation about relationships. They track with a lot of other things I've heard. 603734[/snapback] The releationship thingy was interesting and a lot of it makes sense. It also jives with some of the things I have seen from other sources (obviously, not as good as your sources). I was just commenting on the last two responses, which seem more like Administration PR even to the point of using "American" terms for things, like "the Hill" and "stateside."
Ghost of BiB Posted February 15, 2006 Author Posted February 15, 2006 Interesting piece. Is this the same guy? Barzan Ibrahim Hassan al-Tikriti 603729[/snapback] More on who this guy is.
Scraps Posted February 15, 2006 Posted February 15, 2006 Interview 603716[/snapback] Yawn. Haven't we learned to take these defectors with a boulder of salt?
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 15, 2006 Posted February 15, 2006 Yawn. Haven't we learned to take these defectors with a boulder of salt? 603854[/snapback] Well, I guess we'll have to invade Syria to find out if he's right.
Scraps Posted February 15, 2006 Posted February 15, 2006 Well, I guess we'll have to invade Syria to find out if he's right. 603863[/snapback] What do you mean "we". I'm not going. I'm sure you're not either.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 15, 2006 Posted February 15, 2006 What do you mean "we". I'm not going. I'm sure you're not either. 603873[/snapback] heh, a bit of facetiousness. But in all honesty, I'm more likely to believe this guy than Chalabi.
Taro T Posted February 15, 2006 Posted February 15, 2006 Probably not, I don't understand Iraqi names.... there must be a lot of al-Tikriti's. 603736[/snapback] The al-Tikriti just means that the guy is from Saddam's hometown of Tikrit.
Ghost of BiB Posted February 15, 2006 Author Posted February 15, 2006 The al-Tikriti just means that the guy is from Saddam's hometown of Tikrit. 603959[/snapback] You should see their phone book.
chicot Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 heh, a bit of facetiousness. But in all honesty, I'm more likely to believe this guy than Chalabi. 603876[/snapback] You're not exactly setting the bar very high there. Is there anyone less trustworthy than Chalabi?
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 You're not exactly setting the bar very high there. Is there anyone less trustworthy than Chalabi? 604582[/snapback] Yeah, his name is Bashr Assad.
Ghost of BiB Posted February 17, 2006 Author Posted February 17, 2006 Yawn. Haven't we learned to take these defectors with a boulder of salt? 603854[/snapback] Yeah, I guess you have to because they aren't on board with the proper agenda. We should only here from those who are. Would you see things the same way if a defector stated he had no doubt that there never were any WMD or programs?
Scraps Posted February 17, 2006 Posted February 17, 2006 Yeah, I guess you have to because they aren't on board with the proper agenda. We should only here from those who are. Would you see things the same way if a defector stated he had no doubt that there never were any WMD or programs? 605464[/snapback] No, I'd call him a bald faced liar in that case. I'm keeping in mind that the guy defected 15 years ago and hence might have limited knowledge about the programs and the regime 3 years ago. I'm also suspect that these defectors might conform the information they give to something they believe I want to hear for their own agenda. Did this guy offer anything really new? Didn't the National Intelligence Estimate say that Saddam wouldn't give WMD to another country unless he were about to be overhthrown? How does his information conform with the what the Iraq Survey Group found? From what I've heard, it doesn't really jive. Sorry, but after reading what he had to say, I can't help but shrug my shoulders and ask "so what?"
cromagnum Posted February 17, 2006 Posted February 17, 2006 They packed it all up and moved it to syria, everything. Drone planes, mobile labs,nuclear facilities. Tricky bastards.
Ghost of BiB Posted February 17, 2006 Author Posted February 17, 2006 No, I'd call him a bald faced liar in that case. I'm keeping in mind that the guy defected 15 years ago and hence might have limited knowledge about the programs and the regime 3 years ago. I'm also suspect that these defectors might conform the information they give to something they believe I want to hear for their own agenda. Did this guy offer anything really new? Didn't the National Intelligence Estimate say that Saddam wouldn't give WMD to another country unless he were about to be overhthrown? How does his information conform with the what the Iraq Survey Group found? From what I've heard, it doesn't really jive. Sorry, but after reading what he had to say, I can't help but shrug my shoulders and ask "so what?" 605468[/snapback] I agree. But I'm curious as to who he kept in touch with. I've come to find out there is and has been a lot of connectivity over there that really surprised me. Not just Iraq. I had the opportunity to learn some things from a guy who grew up in Beirut, and some of the "bad bad guys" were childhood neighborhood friends, and he still has a lot of links.
BigAL Posted February 18, 2006 Posted February 18, 2006 Interview 603716[/snapback] Boy, he sounds like a really nice guy. Hard to believe he was a butcher.
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