stevestojan Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Go Sabres!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper13 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Certainly was right Go Sabres! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Wait, are you saying that YOU don't place illegal bets, steve? Or are you saying that you're shady as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted February 11, 2006 Author Share Posted February 11, 2006 Wait, are you saying that YOU don't place illegal bets, steve? Or are you saying that you're shady as well? 600652[/snapback] I've never denied being shady. I've placed bets. I don't have more money than God like Gretzky does (thus having no reason to gamble). I didn't get my family involved in some crazy gambling ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frez Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Is it illegal to place a bet? Or is it illegal to take a bet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 I didn't get my family involved in some crazy gambling ring. You think Wayne got Janet into it, or vice versa? If anyone, I think Janet is shady and Tochett approached both about it, and onle she bit. Wayne has always been one of the classiest all-world athletes I've ever seen. But that doesn't mean he didn't know about it, thus being an accessory of sorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMadKat Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 I've never denied being shady. I've placed bets. I don't have more money than God like Gretzky does (thus having no reason to gamble). I didn't get my family involved in some crazy gambling ring. 600837[/snapback] I do not understand the negativity towards Gretzky. He has not been proven guilty. In general, the mainstream press looks for ANY reason to jab the NHL and hockey. I'm suprised ESPN radio mentions one score on the morning radio. Instead, they focus on McSorely, Bertuzzi, the lockout, ect. Hell, they probably havent watched one game during the new season. IMO, its comparing apples to oranges. The product on the ice is better after the lockout. But, you'll never hear them mention anything positive. They should be focusing on Tochett, NOT Gretzky. Since most people outside of hockey have never heard of Tochett, they focus on the largest icon in NHL history because it provides the most fuel for this story. I dont care how much his wife bet. Until they prove otherwise, Gretzky was not directly involved with the gambling ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 It is hockey... What is more shadier? Doesn't surprise me. Take a look at its past... A lot of things can happen between two countries, then mix in stuff like boxing, the mob, and two sets of accounting books... Etc... Go back 50 years or more and you see where it all started. A simple look at history and the sport tells a lot. Good... You gotta love baseball and what they did early on (even if it seemed harsh for some). They knew perception is very important. The NFL is gonna (or maybe has) fall into that trap soon... Sorry for rambling (what is new)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 I do not understand the negativity towards Gretzky. 600903[/snapback] Face it, a majority of MB posters (here or anywhere else) will always be negative toward a non-hometown player/team that's been successful for a long time. The "tear 'em down" mentality is just human nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 I've never denied being shady. I've placed bets. I don't have more money than God like Gretzky does (thus having no reason to gamble). I didn't get my family involved in some crazy gambling ring. 600837[/snapback] I think this says it all... Totally agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMadKat Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 I think this says it all... Totally agree! 600922[/snapback] Please explain "how" Gretzky got is wife involved in a gambling ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Please explain "how" Gretzky got is wife involved in a gambling ring. 600925[/snapback] You got me... We will have to wait till it all comes out. I am passing judgement though which I can't defend or am not prepared to. He has got to know what his legal wife is doing? Maybe she was banging Toccet... Or other wild scenarios... Who knows? All I know is that it doesn't look good for The Great One... And that should be his business. I hold him responsible for knowing what is going on in his wife's life... If he doesn't want to, why are they married? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMadKat Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 You got me... We will have to wait till it all comes out. I am passing judgement though which I can't defend or am not prepared to. He has got to know what his legal wife is doing? Maybe she was banging Toccet... Or other wild scenarios... Who knows? All I know is that it doesn't look good for The Great One... And that should be his business. I hold him responsible for knowing what is going on in his wife's life... If he doesn't want to, why are they married? 600951[/snapback] You are making my point. You shouldnt pass judgement until you know all the facts. That is why I have a problem w/ all the attention on this story. People are tainting Gretzky's name for no reason. If Gretzky is guilty, Ill be the first one to say I'm disappointed. Just because they are married doesnt mean he is responsible for her actions. She has her own life and career. Therefore, she can support her recreational activies, in this case gambling. Married women a capable of making their own decisions and maintaining their own lifestyles outside of a marriage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 You are making my point. You shouldnt pass judgement until you know all the facts. That is why I have a problem w/ all the attention on this story. People are tainting Gretzky's name for no reason. If Gretzky is guilty, Ill be the first one to say I'm disappointed. Just because they are married doesnt mean he is responsible for her actions. She has her own life and career. Therefore, she can support her recreational activies, in this case gambling. Married women a capable of making their own decisions and maintaining their own lifestyles outside of a marriage. 600975[/snapback] I here you. I never liked WG's pro management style... So I am biased. I guess you can call me old fashioned... Not old fashioned enough to not admit my wife makes more than me... Just old fashioned to say that we can be part of each others lives and to know what is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Looks like you were probably wrong again. Oh, well... It now appears that the wiretap thingy happened after the story broke, or a couple hours either way (implying to me at least that Tochett or someone called Gretzky and said "there's something about to go down".) Surely, it wasn't just coincidence. So Gretzky likely didn't know. This all could change again, and more info could come out that shows he is a lying weasel. But that doesn't appear to me to be the case. At least not yet. http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2328647 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Im sure ESPN was disappointed writing that article...as we all know...they WANT bad things to happen to boost ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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