col_forbin Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 Had a buddy leave me a message that Rivers was being traded to the Jets for JA. Anyone heard anything about this????
stuckincincy Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 Had a buddy leave me a message that Rivers was being traded to the Jets for JA. Anyone heard anything about this???? 598555[/snapback] Huh? Did they get a cap exemption?
Like A Mofo Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 So did you get this message from your buddy, RUN to the PC or laptop to MAKE sure you were the FIRST one to start the thread?!?
apuszczalowski Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 Can trades even be made yet? I thought that the couldn't make any player trades til FA begins
OnTheRocks Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 i have been hearing it will be John Abraham for Drew Brees and possibly a draft positioning change...not sure the details of that part. with Schottenhiemer's son (the son that coaches offense) moving over to the Jets, it is a nice fit. something else that will be incredible will be the Chargers Defense. adding Abraham to that D with Merriman, our old friend Wade Phillips will be having a field day.
stinky finger Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 Can trades even be made yet? I thought that the couldn't make any player trades til FA begins 598573[/snapback] I don't think they can be made yet, though they could agree in principal.
stinky finger Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 i have been hearing it will be John Abraham for Drew Brees and possibly a draft positioning change...not sure the details of that part. with Schottenhiemer's son (the son that coaches offense) moving over to the Jets, it is a nice fit. something else that will be incredible will be the Chargers Defense. adding Abraham to that D with Merriman, our old friend Wade Phillips will be having a field day. 598575[/snapback] I like Brees and I hope he has no complications coming back from his shoulder problem. You would think the Jets would shy away from a QB with a busted wing. Pennington is their albatross.
HtownBillsFan Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 Per ESPN: Abraham wants out <Feb. 8> According to The Newark Star-Ledger, Abraham has told those close to him that he wants out because the Jets continue to drag their feet regarding a long-term deal. However, new general manager Mike Tannenbaum did extend an olive branch to the three-time Pro Bowl DE on Tuesday. "I've known John since 2000. I think he's matured as a person and improved as a player," Tannenbaum said yesterday. "I think he deserves a lot of credit for playing the entire 2005 season, all 16 games." Th Jets are expected to place the franchise tag on Abraham this month (they have from tomorrow until Feb. 23) and then try to trade him. The franchise tender for a defensive end will be $8.3 million in 2006. The amount is determined by the average salary of the five highest-paid players at the position. There are several teams reportedly interested in the unrestricted free agent, including the Chargers, Redskins, Browns and Texans. One possibility, according to The Star-Ledger, could be a deal with San Diego for quarterback Philip Rivers. New Jets offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer was Rivers' quarterback coach the last two seasons.
col_forbin Posted February 8, 2006 Author Posted February 8, 2006 So did you get this message from your buddy, RUN to the PC or laptop to MAKE sure you were the FIRST one to start the thread?!? 598569[/snapback] I was hoping somebody knew if this is real or BS. It looks like it may speculation on my friend's part. He got is info from a NCSU board.....go figure.
drnykterstein Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 Would make a lot of sense. I can say I'm afraid of Rivers though. With him starting I'd make the two Jets games as W's on my calendar.
The Dean Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 Well, it would make some sense, if they can do it. Assuming Brees will fully recover, Rivers is just collecting dust in SD. He has contributed as little as any high first round QB pick in a long time. The Jets should be set up for a Rivers-type QB, as neither Philip or Chad have cannons for arms.
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 The Chargers trading for John Abraham makes absolutly zero sense for them. 1. Drew Brees is coming off a bad shoulder injury. In the event he doesnt come back to form I doubt AJ Smith would want to trade away the guy they picked 1st overall. 2. Steve Foley has been a fairly productive player for the Chargers, with 14.5 sacks the last 2 years. 10 in 2004... 4.5 this past season. 3. John Abraham hasn't played as a stand up backer since his college days. I'm sure he could make the transition, but he's better suited to be a 4-3 de. 4. Not to mention the Chargers have Shawn Merriman they dont need to throw a bunch of money at abraham when they have more pressing needs in the secondary.
marck Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 I agree, Rivers and Brees will be in San Diego in 2006. What makes Rivers really viable is that he has a very low 2006 cap figure as his signing bonus has already been paid and amoritized under the first two years of the contract. In addition, San Diego plays the 3-4 and uses bookend 290+ defensive ends and John Abraham is a classic 4-3 defensive end. Therefore no real fit exists. The Jets are over 30 Million over the 2006 projected cap and will not be able to "franchise" Abraham, they will also lose Ty Law as well. They have a long rebuilding job to do and it will take about three years to complete if everything goes right for them. Along with Green Bay, they are my pick for contention for the top pick in the 2007 NFL Draft. The Chargers trading for John Abraham makes absolutly zero sense for them. 1. Drew Brees is coming off a bad shoulder injury. In the event he doesnt come back to form I doubt AJ Smith would want to trade away the guy they picked 1st overall. 2. Steve Foley has been a fairly productive player for the Chargers, with 14.5 sacks the last 2 years. 10 in 2004... 4.5 this past season. 3. John Abraham hasn't played as a stand up backer since his college days. I'm sure he could make the transition, but he's better suited to be a 4-3 de. 4. Not to mention the Chargers have Shawn Merriman they dont need to throw a bunch of money at abraham when they have more pressing needs in the secondary. 598590[/snapback]
ACor58 Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 "I've known John since 2000. I think he's matured as a person and improved as a player," Tannenbaum said yesterday. "I think he deserves a lot of credit for playing the entire 2005 season, all 16 games." 598582[/snapback] That kinda sounds like a back handed compliment to me.
1gap2gap Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 Per ESPN:Abraham wants out <Feb. 8> According to The Newark Star-Ledger, Abraham has told those close to him that he wants out because the Jets continue to drag their feet regarding a long-term deal. However, new general manager Mike Tannenbaum did extend an olive branch to the three-time Pro Bowl DE on Tuesday. "I've known John since 2000. I think he's matured as a person and improved as a player," Tannenbaum said yesterday. "I think he deserves a lot of credit for playing the entire 2005 season, all 16 games." Th Jets are expected to place the franchise tag on Abraham this month (they have from tomorrow until Feb. 23) and then try to trade him. The franchise tender for a defensive end will be $8.3 million in 2006. The amount is determined by the average salary of the five highest-paid players at the position. There are several teams reportedly interested in the unrestricted free agent, including the Chargers, Redskins, Browns and Texans. One possibility, according to The Star-Ledger, could be a deal with San Diego for quarterback Philip Rivers. New Jets offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer was Rivers' quarterback coach the last two seasons. 598582[/snapback] I would imagine that if this guy was Rivers QB coach that he jump at the chance to get Brees not Rivers - because he would know for a fact that Rivers is all show and nothing else.
CoachChuckDickerson Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 Would make a lot of sense. I can say I'm afraid of Rivers though. With him starting I'd make the two Jets games as W's on my calendar. 598585[/snapback] For a guy living in a glass house, you're heaving some boulders.
Dr. K Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 I would imagine that if this guy was Rivers QB coach that he jump at the chance to get Brees not Rivers - because he would know for a fact that Rivers is all show and nothing else. 598601[/snapback] All show? How do you know that? Rivers was one of the best college QB's I have ever seen. And he ripped up the Senior Bowl while our boy JP was throwing balls into the turf.
drnykterstein Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 For a guy living in a glass house, you're heaving some boulders. 598611[/snapback] Hehe.. my blind-Bills-fan-homer confidence is kicking in again. Now that its the offseason and all.
OnTheRocks Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 i have been hearing it will be John Abraham for Drew Brees and possibly a draft positioning change...not sure the details of that part. with Schottenhiemer's son (the son that coaches offense) moving over to the Jets, it is a nice fit. something else that will be incredible will be the Chargers Defense. adding Abraham to that D with Merriman, our old friend Wade Phillips will be having a field day. I like Brees and I hope he has no complications coming back from his shoulder problem. You would think the Jets would shy away from a QB with a busted wing. Pennington is their albatross. 598579[/snapback] i mis-posted. (is that a word?) i meant to say Rivers, not Brees.
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