OnTheRocks Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 here is an interesting tidbit. I didn't know the Browns were looking to hire someone to run the "i'm a big kitty dept." still just a little bitter......sorry. -- Browns Hire Cousineau -- Thu Sep 23, 2004 The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports the Browns have hired former Browns LB Tom Cousineau on a part time basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 I suspect it's just a "feel-good" PR thing. OSU has a following in Cleveland. The Brownies have so many injuries, he may end up doing duty in practice sessions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 here is an interesting tidbit. I didn't know the Browns were looking to hire someone to run the "i'm a big kitty dept." Well, he does have "cooze" in his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BackInDaDay Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 Correct me if I'm wrong, but not only did he refuse to play for us, and cost us a top pick, he killed someone while driving drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 Cousineau ended up being great for us. We traded him for the pick that we used to draft Jim Kelly. Also, we used the pick that we got from SF when we traded O.J. Simpson to pick Cousineau. In a way, trading Simpson got us Kelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 Cousineau ended up being great for us. We traded him for the pick that we used to draft Jim Kelly. Exactly! We got Jimbo instead of an overrated LB? No bitterness here. Thanks Tom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BackInDaDay Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 Cousineau ended up being great for us. We traded him for the pick that we used to draft Jim Kelly. Also, we used the pick that we got from SF when we traded O.J. Simpson to pick Cousineau. In a way, trading Simpson got us Kelly. 43113[/snapback] So Peter, your a 'turn that frown upside down' kinda guy, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 Correct me if I'm wrong, but not only did he refuse to play for us, and cost us a top pick, he killed someone while driving drunk. 43102[/snapback] I hunted around the 'net to see if the Bills got a supplemental/compensatory pick or whatever, but I found nothing. I guess that's because he signed with a CFL club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 I hunted around the 'net to see if the Bills got a supplemental/compensatory pick or whatever, but I found nothing. I guess that's because he signed with a CFL club. 43153[/snapback] He signed with a CFL club, but the Bills held his NFL rights for three years after they drafted him. When he decided that he wanted to come to the NFL, but not play for the Bills, the Bills traded his rights to the Browns, for a first round pick, that ended up being Jim Kelly.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 So Peter, your a 'turn that frown upside down' kinda guy, eh? 43124[/snapback] I try my best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BackInDaDay Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 I try my best. 43209[/snapback] Keep up the good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 Cousineau ended up being great for us. We traded him for the pick that we used to draft Jim Kelly. Also, we used the pick that we got from SF when we traded O.J. Simpson to pick Cousineau. In a way, trading Simpson got us Kelly. 43113[/snapback] But Kelly was drafted in 1983, the so-called "Quarterback Class of '83" - 4 years after the draft of Cousineau...I'm missing something here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 But Kelly was drafted in 1983, the so-called "Quarterback Class of '83" - 4 years after the draft of Cousineau...I'm missing something here.... 43226[/snapback] Cousineau did not sign with us when we drafted him. The big jerk went to play for the Montreal Alouetes. We ended up trading our rights to him to the Browns (after his contract ran out or the Aloutes went bankrupt. I forget which.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BackInDaDay Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 But Kelly was drafted in 1983, the so-called "Quarterback Class of '83" - 4 years after the draft of Cousineau...I'm missing something here.... 43226[/snapback] Ironically, Kelly didn't want to play for us either. Choosing the WFL instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 OK, but I'd be surprised if that translated into a 1st round pick 4 years hence. 43237[/snapback] It did. We picked Kelly in the first round the same year that we picked Tony Hunter. We picked Hunter with the 12th pick and Kelly with the 14th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 Correct me if I am wrong... During the 70's wasn't Ralph's "hands on" and "money image" a drawback to players signing with the Bills? He might have been a jerk for snubbing us but, didn't Kelly first refuse to play for the Bills? What ever Ralph did when he got Marv, he struck gold! It was the PR change of his lifetime! Amazing but, in 35 years we haven't been able to really duplicate that with a coach except for Saben... And even that was a fiasco at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 Cousineau did not sign with us when we drafted him. The big jerk went to play for the Montreal Alouetes. We ended up trading our rights to him to the Browns (after his contract ran out or the Aloutes went bankrupt. I forget which.) 43231[/snapback] You are right. It took me a while to hunt it down, but Cousineau signing by the Browns did end up in the Bills being in the position to draft Kelly. I sit corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 Ironically, Kelly didn't want to play for us either. Choosing the WFL instead. 43233[/snapback] Or USFL, something like that. Thank God they went broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 Cousineau ever get married? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeFerguson Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 Correct me if I am wrong... During the 70's wasn't Ralph's "hands on" and "money image" a drawback to players signing with the Bills? He might have been a jerk for snubbing us but, didn't Kelly first refuse to play for the Bills? What ever Ralph did when he got Marv, he struck gold! It was the PR change of his lifetime! Amazing but, in 35 years we haven't been able to really duplicate that with a coach except for Saben... And even that was a fiasco at times. 43265[/snapback] I don't know if this can be proven, but from what I was always taught by my elder football teachers (Dad and Uncle), Jim Kelly chose to play in the USFL because he knew he would not start immediately in Buffalo. It wasn't that he hated Buffalo or anything, he just wanted to start right off the bat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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