Senior Bowl game thread

[Bill from NYC]

Who was the RT who got tossed out of the game?

[frogger]

Good, he'll be there at #8 for us 

 

I'm not advocating trading up for him any longer because I think we need to hold onto all our picks, but if he's there at #8 and we pass on him, the Bills will pay the price for ignoring the O-Line again.  D'Brickashaw will be an anchor in the NFL, I guarantee that.  Regardless of what the "LOOOOOOK!!!!  HE MISSED A BLOCK!!  FAILURE!!!!!!!" crowd may say. 

 

I watched him all year, this kid is the real deal.

 

But if you notice, I dont think he'll last to #8, which is why I have Ngata getting the nod with our pick instead.

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I understand he has had only a week to practice, However this is the most fundamental defensive game plan, no stunts, no safety blitzes, et cetera. D'Brick's inability to pick up a a DE that will never start in the NFL, is scary. What happens when they over load his side, what happens when they stunt and all of a sudden he is face to face with a 335 pound NT-he will be defeated. remember it only takes 2 plays an entire game to change the outcome of that game. he had two mistakes in about half a game. and they were against weak comp. just say no to D'Brick, and this has not been my newest stance, this has always been my stance. He will fail in the NFL, I too have watched him. If the Jets draft him, Aaron Schobel, should call the jets and thank them.

[frogger]

i still like bunckley (DT, FSU) -- i didn't watch the whole game, but the plays i did watch, he got off the ball fast, and ran thru the guy blocking him on almost every play -- just like in the practices.  Unfortunately for him, he is only 6'2" 286...he'll never be a 320# guy in the middle.  I would take him round 2

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I like him too, however i see him in a 3-4, as a DE

[colin]

simms was a late climber and really didn't have what haynesworth or henderson had in terms of experience or ability.

 

 

i'd love for brick to fall to us, but i don't know that he will.

 

the best thing about this draft is that at our pick and in the second round there will be a DL/OL who will start for us in quick order and really improve our lines.

 

i also like watson in the 2nd, and max jean-gilles in the 3rd as a massive guard

[PSU_Mouse]

Ha-li-Boombayea! Ha-li-Boombayea!

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I love that guy...read his story sometime. I think with his makeup and motivation, he is gonna be quite a productive player in the league, for a long time.

[Mile High]

Who was the RT who got tossed out of the game?

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Trueblood from BC.

[Rico]

That draft proejection chart isn't be Kiper.  I wouldn't look too much into it, some of those projections look terrible.

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Link

[BuffBills#1]

I didn't realize that was by Kiper so I never really looked too much into it. I'm kind of surprised he can drop some guys so far from watching a couple days of practice with no pads.

[slothrop]

I understand he has had only a week to practice, However this is the most fundamental defensive game plan, no stunts, no safety blitzes, et cetera.  D'Brick's inability to pick up a a DE that will never start in the NFL, is scary.  What happens when they over load his side, what happens when they stunt and all of a sudden he is face to face with a 335 pound NT-he will be defeated.  remember it only takes 2 plays an entire game to change the outcome of that game.  he had two mistakes in about half a game.  and they were against weak comp.  just say no to D'Brick, and this has not been my newest stance, this has always been my stance.  He will fail in the NFL, I too have watched him.  If the Jets draft him, Aaron Schobel, should call the jets and thank them.

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Your right, he is terrible!

 

If he is there and we don't draft him I am going to start calling old-folks homes in the WNY area to see if they have two beds available and whether they take care of senial patients.

[Rico]

I didn't realize that was by Kiper so I never really looked too much into it.  I'm kind of surprised he can drop some guys so far from watching a couple days of practice with no pads.

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I don't think he dropped Winston & Scott that far just this week, I never saw him rate those 2 names very high... at least not on his top 25 or 1st-round projections to date.

[Buffalo Wing]

Max Jean-Gilles looks really good.

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I agree. Max Jean-Gilles has looked very solid. Would be a nice addition to the line. We could get rid of that joker Bennie Anderson.

 

The most disappointing player of the day has Winston. He has been getting knocked around all day.

[ScottyNorwood]

Didn't get to watch the game (son had hockey tourney) how did Tamba Hali do?

Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

[shagmago]

Kiper's latest on this game's players:

 

North Roster

 

Coaching staff: Tennessee Titans

 

North Roster

No. Pos. Name Height Weight School

1  CB  Anwar Phillips  6-0  190  Penn State 

Good athlete. Suspect coverage skills. (Day 2) 

2  WR  Demetrius Williams  6-2  184  Oregon 

Angular. Good Hands. Average speed. (Round 2 or 3) 

4  DB  Jahmile Addae  5-11  205  West Virginia 

Tough. Aggressive. So-so coverage skills. (Day 2) 

4  WR  Travis Wilson  6-2  215  Oklahoma 

Nice finish to the week. Showed some separation. (Round 3) 

6  QB  Jay Cutler  6-3  219  Vanderbilt 

So-so accuracy. Good arm. Made all the throws. (Early Round 1) 

6  QB  Charlie Whitehurst  6-5  223  Clemson 

Throws a great pass. Tight spiral. A little erratic. (Day 2) 

8  WR  Jason Avant  6-2  210  Michigan 

Questionable speed. Struggled some catching the ball. (Day 2) 

8  CB  Tye Hill  5-9  179  Clemson 

Natural cover skills. Spunky. Confident. (Round 1) 

9  RB  Jerome Harrison  5-9  202  Washington State 

Natural runner. Shows quickness. Hands a question. (Round 3 or 4) 

11  RB  Mike Bell  6-1  212  Arizona 

Athletic. Shows outside speed. Runs too upright. (Day 2) 

12  QB  Michael Robinson  6-2  215  Penn State 

Struggled at QB. Not a natural at WR. Possible safety. (Late Day 2) 

14  DB  Daniel Bullocks  6-0  205  Nebraska 

Very fluid, athletic and tough. Good player. (Round 2) 

15  WR  Martin Nance  6-4  212  Miami (Ohio) 

Tall with big hands. Average week of practice. (Day 2) 

17  FB  Lawrence Vickers  6-0  233  Colorado 

Good all-around fullback. (Round 4 or 5) 

18  LB  Chad Greenway  6-3  243  Iowa 

Gifted athlete. Good feel for LB position. Solid week. (Round 1) 

20  DB  Anthony Smith  6-0  194  Syracuse 

Tough. Alert. Adequate coverage skills. Excellent week. (Round 2) 

21  CB  Will Blackmon  6-0  191  Boston College 

Has athletic skills. Suspect coverage. DB or WR? (Day 2) 

21  WR  Maurice Stovall  6-4  236  Notre Dame 

Big. Physical. Good hands. (Round 2) 

26  DB  David Pittman  5-11  171  Northwestern St 

Some ability. Struggled with big WRs. Speed questions. (Day 2) 

27  LB  Brian Iwuh  6-0  226  Colorado 

Didn't jump out at me. (Day 2) 

28  CB  Darrell Hunter  5-11  211  Miami (Ohio) 

Struggled in coverage. Needs to trust his skills more. (Day 2) 

29  P  John Torp  6-1  222  Colorado 

Too methodical. Needs to pick up his pace. (Day 2) 

32  RB  Cedric Humes  6-1  233  Virginia Tech 

Runs a little upright. Has power. Questionable hands. (Day 2) 

38  RB  Terrence Whitehead  5-10  225  Oregon 

So-so all-around threat. (Day 2) 

40  K  Deric Yaussi  5-11  199  Wyoming 

Didn't wow me. (Day 2 or free agent) 

42  LB  Jon Alston  6-1  215  Stanford 

Decent athlete. Flashed some ability. (Day 2) 

44  LB  Clint Ingram  6-1  236  Oklahoma 

Flashed some ability. Up-and-down week. (Day 2) 

51  LB  Abdul Hodge  6-1  231  Iowa 

Strong against the run. Flows and diagnoses well. (Round 2 or 3) 

52  LB  D'Qwell Jackson  6-1  227  Maryland 

Not big, but tough. Flies to the ball. Reacts well. (Round 2) 

54  OL  Marvin Philip  6-2  298  California 

Not a strong anchor. Gets overpowered by big DTs. (Day 2) 

55  OL  Nick Mangold  6-4  296  Ohio State 

Great week. Strong anchor. (Early Round 2) 

55  DE  Darryl Tapp  6-2  266  Virginia Tech 

Long arms. Low base. Great intensity. (Day 1) 

56  OL  Charles Spencer  6-5  330  Pittsburgh 

Good week. Good feet and technique. (Late Round 1 or Round 2) 

61  OL  Ryan O'Callaghan  6-7  363  California 

Natural right tackle. Huge. Good in pass protection. (Round 2)

66  OL  D'Brickashaw Ferguson  6-5  295  Virginia 

Best player in Mobile. Great feet. Long arms. (Early Round 1) 

68  OL  Mark Setterstrom  6-4  307  Minnesota 

Overmatched at times. Good experience. (Day 2) 

72  OL  Jeremy Trueblood  6-8  319  Boston College 

Shows good technique. Battles well. (Round 2 or 3) 

73  OL  Daryn Colledge  6-4  295  Boise State 

Experienced pass blocker, but gets overpowered. (Day 2) 

76  OL  Deuce Lutui  6-5  375  USC 

Strong. Finishes blocks. Has mean streak. Decent feet. (Round 2) 

77  OL  Davin Joseph  6-4  315  Oklahoma 

Natural guard. Must trust his skills. (Late Day 1 or Early Day 2) 

78  DL  Gabe Watson  6-3  335  Michigan 

Strong. Talented. Up-and-down week. (Round 2) 

80  WR  Derek Hagan  6-2  202  Arizona State 

Has ability. Small hands. Tendency to have drops. (Round 3) 

86  TE  Dominique Byrd  6-3  260  USC 

Great hands. Good body control. Great awareness. (Round 1 or 2) 

89  TE  Joe Klopfenstein  6-5  245  Colorado 

Good hands. Can struggle with blocking. (Round 2) 

91  DE  Tamba Hali  6-2  265  Penn State 

Shows a good motor. Good pass rush techniques. (Round 1) 

92  DL  Julian Jenkins  6-4  275  Stanford 

Late addition to roster. (Will predict after game) 

94  DE  Mathias Kiwanuka  6-6  258  Boston College 

Gifted athlete. Ideal size. Great potential. (Round 1) 

95  DE  Victor Adeyanju  6-4  265  Indiana 

Flashes pass-rush ability. (Day 2) 

96  DL  Babatunde Oshinowo  6-2  320  Stanford 

Good DT. Can occupy. Not much penetration. (Round 3 or 4) 

99  DL  Dusty Dvoracek  6-3  302  Oklahoma 

Intense. Improved during week. Could help in a rotation. (Round 3) 

South Roster

 

Coaching staff: San Francisco 49ers

 

South Roster

No. Pos. Name Height Weight School

1  WR  Devin Aromashodu  6-2  198  Auburn 

Has his moments. Decent prospect. (Round 3 or 4) 

2  CB  DeMario Minter  5-11  198  Georgia 

Needs to work on hands. Has some skills. (Late Day 1 or Early 2) 

2  WR  Ben Obomanu  6-1  205  Auburn 

Didn't jump out at me. (Day 2) 

3  QB  D.J. Shockley  6-1  214  Georgia 

Nice arm, but erratic. Needs QB coaching. (Day 2) 

4  QB  Darrell Hackney  6-1  245  UAB 

All over with his throws. Not great size. (Late round or free agent) 

5  WR  Skyler Green  5-9  197  LSU 

Didn't make an impression. (Day 2) 

6  CB  Cedric Griffin  6-1  190  Texas 

Has ability. Tough. Aggressive. Played off too much. (Late Day 1) 

7  DB  Marcus Hudson  6-2  200  NC State 

Tweener. Suspect coverage skills. (Late Day 1 or Early 2) 

8  LB  Freddie Roach  6-2  250  Alabama 

Didn't jump out at me. (Day 2) 

9  WR  Anthony Mix  6-5  248  Auburn 

Some drops. Position questions. (Day 2) 

10  RB  Joseph Addai  5-11  210  LSU 

Versatile. Can catch and block. (Late Day 1 or Early Day 2) 

12  QB  Brodie Croyle  6-3  205  Alabama 

Great arm strength. Makes all throws. Moves well. (Round 2) 

17  DB  Greg Blue  6-2  211  Georgia 

Tough, aggressive, strong tackler. Suspect in coverage. (Late Day 1) 

18  WR  Hank Baskett  6-3  219  New Mexico 

Big. Decent hands. Doesn't separate. (Day 2) 

19  TE  Marcedes Lewis  6-6  255  UCLA 

Talented. Can catch. Needs to show blocking skills. (Round 2) 

20  RB  DeAngelo Williams  5-10  217  Memphis 

Great burst and feet. Impact player. (Early-to-mid Round 1) 

21  RB  Jerious Norwood  6-0  204  Mississippi State 

Shows some quickness. Had a good week. (Early Day 2) 

22  CB  Kelly Jennings  5-11  180  Miami 

Solid corner. Good technique. Experienced. (Round 2 or 3) 

23  CB  Tim Jennings  5-9  182  Georgia 

Spunky. Could be nickel or dime corner. (Day 2) 

24  DB  Pat Watkins  6-4  202  Florida State 

Special-teams potential. Average cover skills. (Day 2) 

32  K  Stephen Gostkowski  6-2  200  Memphis 

Average leg. (Free agent) 

35  FB  Garrett Mills  6-2  226  Tulsa 

Can catch. Good feel. Showed blocking potential. (Early Day 2) 

35  LB  DeMeco Ryans  6-2  236  Alabama 

Didn't wow me, but has ton of ability. (Round 1) 

38  RB  Andre Hall  59  204  South Florida 

Good week. Showed natural instincts. (Early Day 2) 

40  LB  Thomas Howard  6-3  231  UTEP 

Fast. Gifted athlete. Questionable instincts. (Round 2) 

41  DB  Roman Harper  6-0  196  Alabama 

Smart. Questionable in coverage. (Day 2) 

42  LB  Spencer Havner  6-3  235  UCLA 

Can make plays. Shows instincts. Must be more physical. (Day 2) 

44  LB  Gerris Wilkinson  6-3  238  Georgia 

Showed some ability. Good week. (Day 2) 

47  DE  Mark Anderson  6-4  256  Alabama 

Pass rusher. Questionable against the run. (Early Day 2) 

51  LB  Travis Williams  6-0  216  Auburn 

Improved during the week. Nice finish. (Round 3) 

52  DL  Brodrick Bunkley  6-2  286  Florida State 

Powerful pass-rusher. Good player. (Round 2) 

55  DL  Jesse Mahelona  6-2  304  Tennessee 

Gets leverage. Strong. (Round 3) 

63  OL  Ryan Cook  6-7  322  New Mexico 

Struggles technically. Developmental prospect. (Early Day 2) 

68  OL  Mike Degory  6-5  301  Florida 

Struggled some. Often overmatched. (Day 2) 

70  OL  Cody Douglas  6-4  330  Tennessee 

Didn't catch my attention. (Day 2) 

71  OL  Jonathan Scott  6-7  307  Texas 

Has some ability. Didn't wow me. (Early Day 2) 

72  OL  Albert Toeaina  6-5  352  Tennessee 

Struggled this week. (Late Day 2) 

73  OL  Marcus McNeill  6-8  332  Auburn 

Lots of talent. Up-and-down week. (Round 1 possibility) 

74  OL  Eric Winston  6-6  310  Miami 

Can struggle in protection. Had some good moments. (Early Day 2) 

75  OL  Will Allen  6-5  309  Texas 

Didn't wow me. (Day 2) 

77  OL  Max Jean-Gilles  6-4  258  Georgia 

Long arms. Strong. Good technique. (Round 3) 

81  P  Thomas Olmsted  6-4  217  Troy 

Hit a few. Inconsistent. (Late rounds or free agent) 

82  TE  T.J. Williams  6-2  253  NC State 

Has talent. Dropped too many passes. (Day 2) 

83  WR  Sinorice Moss  5-8  185  Miami 

Fast. Electrifying. Good week. (Round 2) 

91  DE  Manny Lawson  6-4  230  NC State 

Natural pass-rusher. Good special-teams player. (Round 2) 

92  DE  Orien Harris  6-3  301  Miami 

Talented. Needs to be more consistent. (Round 2) 

94  DE  Kamerion Wimbley  6-3  240  Florida State 

Showed pass-rush ability. Outside LB or situational DE? (Round 2) 

95  DL  Kyle Williams  6-2  295  LSU 

Short arms hindered him. Great motor. Intense. (Round 3) 

98  DE  Elvis Dumervil  6-0  254  Louisville 

Has pass-rush skills. Struggled some. (Round 3) 

99  DE  Parys Haralson  6-2  250  Tennessee 

Outside pass-rusher. Kind of a tweener. (Day 2)

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Michael Robinson struggled??........I did see him get sacked twice,once was when D`brickshaw(GOD) WIFFED on his man AGAIN!...........Robinson was the only qb who did anything worth noting?...........I watched D`bickshaw the whole game nothin special, I think he`s WAY overated.

[obie_wan]

simms was a late climber and really didn't have what haynesworth or henderson had in terms of experience or ability.

i'd love for brick to fall to us, but i don't know that he will.

 

the best thing about this draft is that at our pick and in the second round there will be a DL/OL who will start for us in quick order and really improve our lines.

 

i also like watson in the 2nd, and max jean-gilles in the 3rd as a massive guard

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max jean-gilles will be gone by late 1st - early 2nd