Nanker Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Ralph is so cheap that he takes the sugar packets, napkins and swizzle sticks home from McDonalds every morning after he gets a Senior Citizens special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seq004 Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Because there are few coaches that fans will flock to a stadium, to pay see on the sidelines. They will, however, pay money to see great players, even on a losing team. 586247[/snapback] I'm not saying that's not true but unless you have great leaders on both sides of the ball your going to need a Parcells, Cower, Vermeil etc. (motivators) If you notice Chuck Knox was the only coach that I can remember that was a proven winner that Ralph hired and he got the most out of his players. He didn't have the most talented group of players in the league but they were a solid team that made a run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Ralph is so cheap that when he takes a penny out of his pocket, Lincoln blinks at the light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Ralph is so cheap, he still has his First Communion money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Yo momma so fat... Wait...wrong thread. Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Yo momma so fat... Wait...wrong thread. Sorry 586304[/snapback] HaHaHaHaHa Get with it... Ralph's so cheap... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 i can see how you might reach that conclusion (and you may be right)...but that conclusion does not necessarily follow. Chuck Knox was a big mane in his time. He was at the Marty S. level, or above. Again, I agree you should get the best person available. The assumption is that we hire less than we want to saye $. It could also be Ralph can't tell a good coach from a bad one, so why pay more for something when you can't see the reason why. (That's the "doesn't know s#it from shinola" argument.) I would have to believe that the extra $ the team makes in the playoffs would off-set a coaching pay difference...but, I don't know this for a fact. If that's the case, "being cheap" may be costing Ralph $$$. If he's throwing away money, how can you call him cheap? (Kidding) Your assumption that higher pay = better results, however, is horribly, terribly, unmercifully flawed. But, I would guess, on average, coaches who make big $ do better than coaches who make little $. Knowing which ones before the fact is the real trick. My guess is the $ doesn't make them better. For example, my company could have hired someone for three times what they are paying me and would have received someone FAR worse at the job than I (guaranteed!). 586198[/snapback] Unmercifully flawed? But then you guess, on average, that coaches who make more money do better than coaches who don't? So, my conclusion is flawed but yet you agree with me...hmmm...a tad confusing. Usually you don't pay someone a pile of dough unless they have proven results beforehand, hence, they're paid more money. Just because you're underpaid doesn't in the slightest make what I said wrong. Ralph has paid coordinators good money in the past. Unfortunatley, it was for a head coaching position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingant Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 HaHaHaHaHaGet with it... Ralph's so cheap... 586306[/snapback] Ralph is so cheap... That the Wilson's always celebrate Christmas a week late..... once their neighbor throws out the tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 28, 2006 Author Share Posted January 28, 2006 Glad to see that some of you finally got the gist of my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfmeister Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Extra ticket revenue too little for Bills to hire top coaches (January 26, 2006) — It is impossible to criticize a slight hike in Buffalo Bills ticket prices for the 2006 season when they are still are the cheapest seats on average in the NFL. Unfortunately, it seems quite likely that owner Ralph Wilson Jr. isn't using any of that added revenue to hire a head coach and coordinators with glowing credentials and hefty salaries. It doesn't help the reputation of the Bills when the team fires head coaches and they land on their feet making more money as offensive (Mike Mularkey) and defensive coodinators (Wade Phillips and Gregg Williams) elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kultarr Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Ralph is so cheap he hangs Jiffy Pop on the ceiling rather than buy smoke detectors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kultarr Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Ralph is so cheap he hangs his wet paper towels on the clothes line so he can use them again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfmeister Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Yo momma so fat... Wait...wrong thread. Sorry 586304[/snapback] I have no time for fat jokes because ... I’m busier than a busy person. I’m busier than a grave robber at Forrest’s Lawn. I’m busier than a set of jumper cables at a Puerto Rican wedding I’m busier than a one-armed wallpaper hanger with hives I’m busier than a podiatrically challenged person of indeterminate gender at a butt-kicking contest. I’m busier than a frog on a log I’m busier than a sea serpent at a boat show I’m busier than a tick laying eggs I’m busier than a beaver in a lake of coffee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWatch Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 If Ralph was truely cheap he would refuse to allow head coaches to bring in newcoaches unless they could guarentee coaches who were replaced would have their salary will be paid elsewhere. A lot of fans wanted Ralph to pony up for that Florida coach $purrier who $nyder paid $5M a year for and coached only two years despite being paid for 5. Money DOES NOT automatically equal quality. Ralph probably is willing to pay less than some fans want him to but a lot of fans want to pay less Ralph wants them to on tickets, concessions, parking, etc. Each need to manage their own money their own way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Money DOES NOT automatically equal quality. That's why you triangulate between money, proven success and smarts. Spurrier was a good college coach and unproven in the NFL. Bates (for example) has done extremely well almost everywhere he's been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 I've been thinking about this <cheap> for a couple of weeks, but I can't find any opinions on the topic <cheap>. It seems as though the Bills should <cheap> be able to get some good coaches in here, but maybe Ralph is <cheap> cheap and doesn't want to pay them enough? I don't know; I could really use some <cheap> insight here. 586038[/snapback] well i remember one evening me ralph and td went out for drinks and he left me with the bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 Mr. Wilson owns a NFL team in a tiny market....he's obviously not cheap....he could do MUCH better financially by moving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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