BillsFanForever19 Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 I thought this would be a fun little game. Create the first 15 prospects of the Bills draft board if you were GM. Mind you, this is a value board, not a NEED board. Just because someone is #1 on the board doesn't mean you have to select him. Here's mine: 1.) Reggie Bush, RB USC 2.) Vince Young, QB Texas 3.) D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT Virginia 4.) Matt Leinart, QB USC 5.) Mario Williams, DE N.C. State 6.) A.J. Hawk, LB Ohio State 7.) Haloti Ngata, DT Oregon 8.) Tambla Hali, DE Penn State 9.) Michael Huff, S Texas 10.) Jimmy Williams, CB Virginia Tech 11.) DeAngelo Williams, RB Memphis 12.) Vernon Davis, TE Maryland 13.) Santonio Holmes, WR Ohio State 14.) Lendale White, RB USC 15.) Jay Cutler, QB Vanderbilt You'll notice that with the exception of Ngata, Williams, and Kiwinuka; there are no D-Lineman and with the exception of Ferguson; no O-Lineman. That's because there isn't anyone else worth being in the top-15 (I actually have Tambla Hali at 16 however). After Ngata, the next best DT's are Brodrick Bunkley, Claude Wroten, and Gabe Watson. They won't be selected until the middle-1st at best. Same goes for Winston Justice, Marcus McNeill, and Eric Winston on OT. So if neither Ngata, Ferguson, or Williams are there; then we should trade down. If we can't, then we may have to look outside the OL/DL box in the 1st round. Otherwise, we'll be reaching (even though Kiwinuka is 8th on my board, I think picking him 8th would be a little bit of a reach). I believe we'll address both lines HEAVILY in FA, so it won't be the end of the world if we wait until the 2nd (although it's not preferred). How about you guys? EDIT: After catching some Senior Bowl practices, I have to agree that Hali is better than Kiwinuka. Therefore, i've switched their spots (Hali was 16 and unlisted).
justnzane Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 I thought this would be a fun little game. Create the first 15 prospects of the Bills draft board if you were GM. Mind you, this is a value board, not a NEED board. Just because someone is #1 on the board doesn't mean you have to select him. Here's mine: 1.) Reggie Bush, RB USC 2.) Vince Young, QB Texas 3.) D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT Virginia 4.) Matt Leinart, QB USC 5.) Mario Williams, DE N.C. State 6.) A.J. Hawk, LB Ohio State 7.) Haloti Ngata, DT Oregon 8.) Mathias Kiwinuka, DE Boston College 9.) Michael Huff, S Texas 10.) Jimmy Williams, CB Virginia Tech 11.) DeAngelo Williams, RB Memphis 12.) Vernon Davis, TE Maryland 13.) Santonio Holmes, WR Ohio State 14.) Lendale White, RB USC 15.) Jay Cutler, QB Vanderbilt You'll notice that with the exception of Ngata, Williams, and Kiwinuka; there are no D-Lineman and with the exception of Ferguson; no O-Lineman. That's because there isn't anyone else worth being in the top-15 (I actually have Tambla Hali at 16 however). After Ngata, the next best DT's are Brodrick Bunkley, Claude Wroten, and Gabe Watson. They won't be selected until the middle-1st at best. Same goes for Winston Justice, Marcus McNeill, and Eric Winston on OT. So if neither Ngata, Ferguson, or Williams are there; then we should trade down. If we can't, then we may have to look outside the OL/DL box in the 1st round. Otherwise, we'll be reaching (even though Kiwinuka is 8th on my board, I think picking him 8th would be a little bit of a reach). I believe we'll address both lines HEAVILY in FA, so it won't be the end of the world if we wait until the 2nd (although it's not preferred). How about you guys? 584557[/snapback] pretty solid but i have seen Hali ahead of Kiawanuka, and i think that is correctly so. I also don't think Lendale White is that good (good, but not top 15 caliber)
stuckincincy Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 Keep an eye on declared junior OSU SS Donte Whitner.
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 1.) Reggie Bush, RB USC 2.) Vince Young, QB Texas 3.) D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT Virginia 4.) Matt Leinart, QB USC 5.) Mario Williams, DE N.C. State 6.) A.J. Hawk, LB Ohio State 7.) Haloti Ngata, DT Oregon 8.) Mathias Kiwinuka, DE Boston College 9.) Michael Huff, S Texas 10.) Jimmy Williams, CB Virginia Tech 11.) DeAngelo Williams, RB Memphis 12.) Vernon Davis, TE Maryland 13.) Santonio Holmes, WR Ohio State 14.) Lendale White, RB USC 15.) Jay Cutler, QB Vanderbilt How about you guys? 584557[/snapback] I think Tamba Hali and Eric Winston will climb up the charts as the draft approaches. Kiwi and DeAngelo Williams will slide into the 2nd half of the first round and Leinart should (but probably won't) drop a bit lower. 1.) Reggie Bush, RB USC 2.) Vince Young, QB Texas 3.) D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT Virginia 4.) Mario Williams DE N.C. State 5.) A.J. Hawk, LB Ohio State 6.) Haloti Ngata, DT Oregon 7.) Matt Leinart, QB USC 8.) Michael Huff, S Texas 9.) Jay Cutler, QB Vanderbilt 10.) Jimmy Williams, CB Virginia Tech 11.) Tamba Hali, DE Penn State 12.) Vernon Davis, TE Maryland 13.) Santonio Holmes, WR Ohio State 14.) Lendale White, RB USC 15.) Eric Winston, OT Miami
BuffBills#1 Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 1. Reggie Bush 2. Vince Young 3. Matt Lienert 4. Mario Williams 5. D. Fergauson 6. A.J. Hawk 7. H. Ngata 8. Jimmy Williams 9. Jay Cutler 10. Chad Greenway 11. Michael Huff 12. Vernon Davis 13. Deangalo Williams 14. Sanantonio Holmes 15. T. Hali
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 1. Reggie Bush2. Vince Young 3. Matt Lienert 4. Mario Williams 5. D. Fergauson 6. A.J. Hawk 7. H. Ngata 8. Jimmy Williams 9. Jay Cutler 10. Chad Greenway 11. Michael Huff 12. Vernon Davis 13. Deangalo Williams 14. Sanantonio Holmes 15. T. Hali 584649[/snapback] Greenway is an interesting addition. I think he will be a damn good player.
Tortured Soul Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 Ngata jumped on the Scouts Inc. list from 19 to 8. Anyone know why or is it just because they're pulling these rankings out of their behinds? Sorry to post this where I'm not sure it belongs, but it's not worth its own thread.
2003 Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 I thought this would be a fun little game. Create the first 15 prospects of the Bills draft board if you were GM. Mind you, this is a value board, not a NEED board. Just because someone is #1 on the board doesn't mean you have to select him. Here's mine: 1.) Reggie Bush, RB USC 2.) Vince Young, QB Texas 3.) D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT Virginia 4.) Matt Leinart, QB USC 5.) Mario Williams, DE N.C. State 6.) A.J. Hawk, LB Ohio State 7.) Haloti Ngata, DT Oregon 8.) Mathias Kiwinuka, DE Boston College 9.) Michael Huff, S Texas 10.) Jimmy Williams, CB Virginia Tech 11.) DeAngelo Williams, RB Memphis 12.) Vernon Davis, TE Maryland 13.) Santonio Holmes, WR Ohio State 14.) Lendale White, RB USC 15.) Jay Cutler, QB Vanderbilt You'll notice that with the exception of Ngata, Williams, and Kiwinuka; there are no D-Lineman and with the exception of Ferguson; no O-Lineman. That's because there isn't anyone else worth being in the top-15 (I actually have Tambla Hali at 16 however). After Ngata, the next best DT's are Brodrick Bunkley, Claude Wroten, and Gabe Watson. They won't be selected until the middle-1st at best. Same goes for Winston Justice, Marcus McNeill, and Eric Winston on OT. So if neither Ngata, Ferguson, or Williams are there; then we should trade down. If we can't, then we may have to look outside the OL/DL box in the 1st round. Otherwise, we'll be reaching (even though Kiwinuka is 8th on my board, I think picking him 8th would be a little bit of a reach). I believe we'll address both lines HEAVILY in FA, so it won't be the end of the world if we wait until the 2nd (although it's not preferred). How about you guys? 584557[/snapback] Very Nice. But I'm not sure about Ngata being ranked that high.
bert Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 1*Reggie Bush RB 2*Vince Young QB 3Matt Leinart QB 4D'Brickashaw Ferguson OT 5*Mario Williams DE 6*LenDale White RB 7A.J. Hawk LB 8Jimmy Williams CB 9Jay Cutler QB 10Michael Huff DB 11*Haloti Ngata DT 12*Vernon Davis TE 13*Winston Justice OT 14Tamba Hali DE 15Chad Greenway LB
fishiewishie Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 1. Reggie Bush 2. Vince Young 3. Matt Leinhart 4. AJ Hawk 5. D'Brickashaw Ferguson 6. Mario Williams 7. Lendale White 8. Jay Cutler 9. Tamba Hali 10. Haloti Ngata 11. Deangelo Hall 12. Vernon Davis 13. Winston Justice 14. Jesse Mahelona 15. Santonio Holmes
drnykterstein Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 I'm been watching the senior bowl on nfl network... i would hate to have kiwi on this team. He's an ok player, but not worth top 10 money, or even worth 1st round money if you ask me.
BDW1968 Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 I thought this would be a fun little game. Create the first 15 prospects of the Bills draft board if you were GM. Mind you, this is a value board, not a NEED board. Just because someone is #1 on the board doesn't mean you have to select him. Here's mine: 1.) Reggie Bush, RB USC 2.) Vince Young, QB Texas 3.) D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT Virginia 4.) Matt Leinart, QB USC 5.) Mario Williams, DE N.C. State 6.) A.J. Hawk, LB Ohio State 7.) Haloti Ngata, DT Oregon 8.) Mathias Kiwinuka, DE Boston College 9.) Michael Huff, S Texas 10.) Jimmy Williams, CB Virginia Tech 11.) DeAngelo Williams, RB Memphis 12.) Vernon Davis, TE Maryland 13.) Santonio Holmes, WR Ohio State 14.) Lendale White, RB USC 15.) Jay Cutler, QB Vanderbilt You'll notice that with the exception of Ngata, Williams, and Kiwinuka; there are no D-Lineman and with the exception of Ferguson; no O-Lineman. That's because there isn't anyone else worth being in the top-15 (I actually have Tambla Hali at 16 however). After Ngata, the next best DT's are Brodrick Bunkley, Claude Wroten, and Gabe Watson. They won't be selected until the middle-1st at best. Same goes for Winston Justice, Marcus McNeill, and Eric Winston on OT. So if neither Ngata, Ferguson, or Williams are there; then we should trade down. If we can't, then we may have to look outside the OL/DL box in the 1st round. Otherwise, we'll be reaching (even though Kiwinuka is 8th on my board, I think picking him 8th would be a little bit of a reach). I believe we'll address both lines HEAVILY in FA, so it won't be the end of the world if we wait until the 2nd (although it's not preferred). How about you guys? 1.) Reggie Bush, RB USC 2a.)Jay Cutler, QB Vanderbilt 2.) Vince Young, QB Texas 3.) D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT Virginia 4.) Matt Leinart, QB USC 5.) Mario Williams, DE N.C. State 6.) A.J. Hawk, LB Ohio State 7.) Haloti Ngata, DT Oregon 8.) Mathias Kiwinuka, DE Boston College 9.) Michael Huff, S Texas 10.) Jimmy Williams, CB Virginia Tech 11.) DeAngelo Williams, RB Memphis 12.) Vernon Davis, TE Maryland 13.) Santonio Holmes, WR Ohio State 14.) Lendale White, RB USC 15.) Jay Cutler, QB Vanderbilt 584557[/snapback]
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 1.) Reggie Bush, RB USC 2.) Matt Leinart Qb USC 3.) Mario Williams, DE N.C. State 4.) Dbrickshaw Ferguson OT Virginia 5.) Haloti Ngata, DT Oregon 6.) A.J. Hawk, LB Ohio State 7.) Mathias Kiwinuka, DE Boston College 8.) Chad Greenway OLB Iowa 9.) Marcedes lewis te UCLA 10.) Jimmy Williams, CB Virginia Tech 11.) DeAngelo Williams, RB Memphis 12.) Lendale White, RB USC 13.) Antonio Cromartie CB Florida St 14.) DeMeco Ryans OLB Alabama 15.) Vernon Davis, TE Maryland Noteable subtractions: Vince Young. Vince Young is a tremendous athlete. However the spread option offense doesnt fly in the nfl. I wouldnt want an offense solely built around Young, cause I dont think he'll ever be that good of a quaterback. Michael Huff. I dont get the hype about this guy. Yeah he's got some speed, and well thats about it. He's not a great hitter, and he's not good in coverage. I also refuse to rank a safety as a top 15 player Noteable additions: Chad Greenway... think brian urlacher. Marcedes Lewis. He got of got lost in the shuffle with Vernon Davis. Lewis has the height advantage. He'll be a bigger redzone threat. He has better hands and he's quicker off the line. I also think he work the middle of the field better. Antonio Cromartie. If not for his knee injury before the season would be a no doubt about it top 10 pick. The total package as far as cb's go, knee inury be damned he makes my list. DeMeco Ryans. Kind of gets lost in the shuffle with the other lbs in this draft. Not overly fast, but has a great nose for the ball. Makes plays sideline to sideline. Hell of a lb, and a guy a team can build a foundation of a defense around.
stuckincincy Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 I thought this would be a fun little game. Create the first 15 prospects of the Bills draft board if you were GM. 584557[/snapback] I won't commit! But a good post - it is sure a fun thing to kick about as the draft gets closer!
bluelight05 Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 1. D'brickshaw Ferguson 2. Gnata 3. M Williams 4. Leinart 5. Bush 6. Young 7. Jimmy williams 8. Vernon Davis 9. Huff 10. AJ hawk
BillsFanForever19 Posted January 27, 2006 Author Posted January 27, 2006 1.) Reggie Bush, RB USC2.) Matt Leinart Qb USC 3.) Mario Williams, DE N.C. State 4.) Dbrickshaw Ferguson OT Virginia 5.) Haloti Ngata, DT Oregon 6.) A.J. Hawk, LB Ohio State 7.) Mathias Kiwinuka, DE Boston College 8.) Chad Greenway OLB Iowa 9.) Marcedes lewis te UCLA 10.) Jimmy Williams, CB Virginia Tech 11.) DeAngelo Williams, RB Memphis 12.) Lendale White, RB USC 13.) Antonio Cromartie CB Florida St 14.) DeMeco Ryans OLB Alabama 15.) Vernon Davis, TE Maryland Noteable subtractions: Vince Young. Vince Young is a tremendous athlete. However the spread option offense doesnt fly in the nfl. I wouldnt want an offense solely built around Young, cause I dont think he'll ever be that good of a quaterback. Michael Huff. I dont get the hype about this guy. Yeah he's got some speed, and well thats about it. He's not a great hitter, and he's not good in coverage. I also refuse to rank a safety as a top 15 player Noteable additions: Chad Greenway... think brian urlacher. Marcedes Lewis. He got of got lost in the shuffle with Vernon Davis. Lewis has the height advantage. He'll be a bigger redzone threat. He has better hands and he's quicker off the line. I also think he work the middle of the field better. Antonio Cromartie. If not for his knee injury before the season would be a no doubt about it top 10 pick. The total package as far as cb's go, knee inury be damned he makes my list. DeMeco Ryans. Kind of gets lost in the shuffle with the other lbs in this draft. Not overly fast, but has a great nose for the ball. Makes plays sideline to sideline. Hell of a lb, and a guy a team can build a foundation of a defense around. 584889[/snapback] You know what's amazing? We're disagreeing about something and acting civil about it. Seriously though, I think Davis is better than Mercedes. I've always felt he was a little overhyped myself. I like Cromartie a lot. But I don't think he's top-15. Not after his injury and all. I think Greenway is a good LB. Probably in the 15-20 range. But personally, i'm not a big fan. And I understand a lot of people aren't high on Young for whatever reason. But to drop him below Cromartie, Ryans, and Davis is just plain crazy talk.
In space no one can hear Posted January 27, 2006 Posted January 27, 2006 Nice job...... My only thought would be that Jay Cutler is definitely in the top 10.... I can't wait for the draft!!
ScottyNorwood Posted January 27, 2006 Posted January 27, 2006 From the practices I've watched I think T. Hali is far better than Kiwi, Kiwi was being B word slapped all over by the Brick. To be honest I think T. Hali is top 10, great quickness, gets off the ball like greased lightning alot like Freeney, hope the Bills trade down and take him.
BADOLBILZ Posted January 27, 2006 Posted January 27, 2006 Ngata jumped on the Scouts Inc. list from 19 to 8. Anyone know why or is it just because they're pulling these rankings out of their behinds?Sorry to post this where I'm not sure it belongs, but it's not worth its own thread. 584750[/snapback] Because the season is over and draft experts and many NFL teams alike start to overanalyze players and weigh in too many things that have nothing to do with performance on the field in their evaluation. Ngata and Gabe Watson are big DT's but nowhere near as good as their hype. In some of the better DT drafts of recent years, these guys wouldn't even be mentioned as first round prospects. Yet they are mentioned as such in this draft(a strong overall class, IMO) simply because you need 2-4 good DT's and it's hard to find that many. By contrast, OT's aren't rotated, so you can get by with two good ones. Ngata is a fat guy with a low motor. I think Gabe Watson can even hit double-low if properly unmotivated. By the end of the year, Gabe was actually getting less snaps than his backup, "Tree", who I believe is a sophomore.
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