dave mcbride Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 they've got an excellent staff and are coming off a 6 game winning streak. they also have a *lot* of talented players. if they get the qb position solved, look out. the pats will be very good next year too - they aren't losing anyone except possibly the underrated givens, and they'll have a ton of guys back from injury. i'm sure they'll draft well too. next year will be a rebuilding season for the jets, i've gotta conclude. guys are leaving and they don't have a qb. they'll also have a novice at coach and a new staff. where's ty law going to end up? will mangini keep him? if not, would he be a good (and cheaper) replacement for clements? i thought he was one of the best cbs in the league this year. how about abraham and mawae? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofiba Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 they've got an excellent staff and are coming off a 6 game winning streak. they also have a *lot* of talented players. if they get the qb position solved, look out. 583507[/snapback] Sounds a little bit like us last year. We all know how that turned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 I personally think they have a great shot at the super bowl, i rank our division like this next year: 1.) Miami 2.) Pats 3.) Bills 4.) Jets I am very worried about the phins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Good point Dave. I think we should pretty darn worried about whoever we play. I can't imagine any other team boards are posting concerns that the Buffalo Bills worry them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 I'm not overly worried about a team that the Bills, as bad as they were, almost swept, if not for idiotic play-calling by Mularkey (LOL!) and/or Moulds throwing a hissy fit. The Bills will be able to reload this off-season, and getting a guy like Fat Ted will help the defense enormously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 they've got an excellent staff 583507[/snapback] The TBD experts have been telling us how incompetent Mularkey is for the last 18 months. We have nothing to worry about because their offense won't be able to score with him calling the plays, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D' men Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Well Ricky is back. That's what worries me. He used to run all over our defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 25, 2006 Author Share Posted January 25, 2006 The TBD experts have been telling us how incompetent Mularkey is for the last 18 months. We have nothing to worry about because their offense won't be able to score with him calling the plays, right? 583523[/snapback] you never heard that from me. i think he's a very good offensive coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDG Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 The Nick Saban/Fish boomlet is one of the most baffling things about the National Media's coverage of the NFL. Let's consider their vaunted "six game winning streak": 4-win Oakland, 5-win Buffalo after the Bills blew a 21 point lead, the 9-win Chargers who were suffering a let-down game amidst the toughest schedule in NFL history, the 4-win Jets, the 4-win Titans, and the Matt Cassel & Co. New England Patiorts - who still took the Fish to the final play of the game! So, please don't talk to me about the "6 game winning streak", what people really mean is that they are projecting the Fish to be good solely on the basis of upsetting the San Diego Chargers on the road in a major, major, "let down" game for the Chargers - who were looking ahead to playing the undefeated Indianapolis Colts for their playoff lives the next week. Meanwhile, conveniently forgotten in the Nick Saban lovefest is 22-0. To the Patriots? Nahh.... to the Cleveland Browns. Think about that for a moment. To put it short-and-sweet, the 2005 Fish are the most over-rated NFL Team since..... well, the 2004 Buffalo Bills. JDG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puhonix Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 I personally think they have a great shot at the super bowl, i rank our division like this next year: 1.) Miami 2.) Pats 3.) Bills 4.) Jets I am very worried about the phins 583513[/snapback] You gotta put the pats at the top of the list. They're the AFC East champs until someone takes it from them. I think the list plays out exactly as it is at the end of this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRW Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 I'm not particularly worried about the Phins next year. The competitors for this Bills team, until they prove otherwise, are the Raiders/Texans/Ravens/Jets of the NFL. I see no reason to get worked up over how they'll do against teams competing for the division title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodnarb Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 mularkey will do better for miami than we did for us. Watch. why? cuz he'll LEARN FROM SABAN how to a. keep your players in the game when things look bleak b. keep them focused when they have a lead c. manage a game d. manage the clock e. challenge bad calls vs. not challenging he'll also learn from Saban that you don't always do X because you think your opponent expects Y. That's a big part of the game, but NOT WHEN YOU HAVE 2nd AND GOAL FROM THE 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 I'm not worried at all about the 'phins next year. What worries me the most about next season is the Buffalo Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 The Nick Saban/Fish boomlet is one of the most baffling things about the National Media's coverage of the NFL. Let's consider their vaunted "six game winning streak": 4-win Oakland, 5-win Buffalo after the Bills blew a 21 point lead, the 9-win Chargers who were suffering a let-down game amidst the toughest schedule in NFL history, the 4-win Jets, the 4-win Titans, and the Matt Cassel & Co. New England Patiorts - who still took the Fish to the final play of the game! So, please don't talk to me about the "6 game winning streak", what people really mean is that they are projecting the Fish to be good solely on the basis of upsetting the San Diego Chargers on the road in a major, major, "let down" game for the Chargers - who were looking ahead to playing the undefeated Indianapolis Colts for their playoff lives the next week. Meanwhile, conveniently forgotten in the Nick Saban lovefest is 22-0. To the Patriots? Nahh.... to the Cleveland Browns. Think about that for a moment. To put it short-and-sweet, the 2005 Fish are the most over-rated NFL Team since..... well, the 2004 Buffalo Bills. Good post. And Mularkey is a big downgrade from Linehan. Don't know about Capers. He hasn't really done much defensively in awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 25, 2006 Author Share Posted January 25, 2006 The Nick Saban/Fish boomlet is one of the most baffling things about the National Media's coverage of the NFL. Let's consider their vaunted "six game winning streak": 4-win Oakland, 5-win Buffalo after the Bills blew a 21 point lead, the 9-win Chargers who were suffering a let-down game amidst the toughest schedule in NFL history, the 4-win Jets, the 4-win Titans, and the Matt Cassel & Co. New England Patiorts - who still took the Fish to the final play of the game! So, please don't talk to me about the "6 game winning streak", what people really mean is that they are projecting the Fish to be good solely on the basis of upsetting the San Diego Chargers on the road in a major, major, "let down" game for the Chargers - who were looking ahead to playing the undefeated Indianapolis Colts for their playoff lives the next week. Meanwhile, conveniently forgotten in the Nick Saban lovefest is 22-0. To the Patriots? Nahh.... to the Cleveland Browns. Think about that for a moment. To put it short-and-sweet, the 2005 Fish are the most over-rated NFL Team since..... well, the 2004 Buffalo Bills. JDG 583531[/snapback] i think the point is that they have a lot of talent, and they actually improved over the course of the season. moreover, you can't tell me that saban isn't an excellent coach. they beat the teams they were supposed to beat, and they improved. sometimes, you know, that's a predictor of further improvement, and not an indicator that they'll be 5-11 next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 The Nick Saban/Fish boomlet is one of the most baffling things about the National Media's coverage of the NFL. Let's consider their vaunted "six game winning streak": 4-win Oakland, 5-win Buffalo after the Bills blew a 21 point lead, the 9-win Chargers who were suffering a let-down game amidst the toughest schedule in NFL history, the 4-win Jets, the 4-win Titans, and the Matt Cassel & Co. New England Patiorts - who still took the Fish to the final play of the game! So, please don't talk to me about the "6 game winning streak", what people really mean is that they are projecting the Fish to be good solely on the basis of upsetting the San Diego Chargers on the road in a major, major, "let down" game for the Chargers - who were looking ahead to playing the undefeated Indianapolis Colts for their playoff lives the next week. Meanwhile, conveniently forgotten in the Nick Saban lovefest is 22-0. To the Patriots? Nahh.... to the Cleveland Browns. Think about that for a moment. To put it short-and-sweet, the 2005 Fish are the most over-rated NFL Team since..... well, the 2004 Buffalo Bills. JDG 583531[/snapback] OMG somebody has been reading my posts. Miami is 14th on my list of concerns behind the Pats, and about a dozen concerns I have for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDG Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 i think the point is that they have a lot of talent, and they actually improved over the course of the season. moreover, you can't tell me that saban isn't an excellent coach. they beat the teams they were supposed to beat, and they improved. sometimes, you know, that's a predictor of further improvement, and not an indicator that they'll be 5-11 next year. 583672[/snapback] Why *can't* I tell you that Saban isn't an excellent coach? Is it because of his whopping 9-7 record this past season? And please tell me if Cleveland was one of the teams they weren't supposed to beat? I'll be honest, and I'm *not* going to say that Saban is definitively not an excellent coach. I will say, however, that Nick Saban did *not* demonstrate that he is an excellent coach this past season. Let's be honest here. If Matt Kassel completes his last pass against Miami, there is *no* six game winning streak, the Dolphins finish 8-8, and there probably isn't much of a Nick Saban boomlet among Peter King, Len Pasquarelli, and the rest of the National Football Media. And its pure garbage anyways that Belichick was playing Matt Kassel, as he *should* have been fighting for the #3 seed and a realistic opportunity to host the AFC Championship Game. But it is what it is, and so please forgive me for not fawning over Nick Saban's ability to beat Matt Kassel. JDG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Let's be honest here. If Matt Kassel completes his last pass against Miami, there is *no* six game winning streak, the Dolphins finish 8-8, and there probably isn't much of a Nick Saban boomlet among Peter King, Len Pasquarelli, and the rest of the National Football Media. And its pure garbage anyways that Belichick was playing Matt Kassel, as he *should* have been fighting for the #3 seed and a realistic opportunity to host the AFC Championship Game. But it is what it is, and so please forgive me for not fawning over Nick Saban's ability to beat Matt Kassel. JDG 583812[/snapback] Yeah - funny that Bellicheck plays Kassel vs. the Fish in a quasi-meaningless game. But the week before in a game of the same importance vs. the Jets, Tom Brady is running QB sneaks with a minute left when the game is over. That tells you something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCM Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Nick is the "Son Of Saban"........likes to drink babies blood! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCM Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Yeah.....the Fins prolly wish they had held out one more year before hiring Saban so they could have had a shot at Jauron...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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