granitestatebillsbackers Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Daunte Culpepper, even with a torn-up knee that's in the midst of rehab, is reportedly asking his agent to seek a renegotiated deal--and the rumor is that the Vikes might seek a first-round pick for DC. (I don't think they'll get a 1st rounder for DC unless there are contingencies attached based on performance, health, etc.) Hypothetical question (and I am pro-JPL, by the way): is there a place in the mix for a QB like Culpepper with the Bills? I'm assuming he is going to lose a step after the surgery, but he is a seasoned vet with a great set of skills. I am not abandoning the JP concept, but if we have a chance to get someone who might approach the level of a franchise QB, does it bear consideration? Perhaps hang on to Holcomb as the backup and trade the kid? This would mean beefing up the lines primarily through free agency and Marv working his magic picking guys deeper into day one and on day two. Finally, given that JP was brought in by TD (and considering Ralph Wilson made a point to say he wanted to see film--which makes me wonder if TD did the hard sell to bring the kid in), I wonder how committed Marv is going to be to the JP experiment? I know I am going to get killed on this one. Fire away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Dennnis Green will trade for him, prolly a 2007 2nd with conditions of becoming a 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granitestatebillsbackers Posted January 20, 2006 Author Share Posted January 20, 2006 John Riggins mentioned Green as the logical choice--but I came in on the end of the conversation and missed the premise. Why Arizona--am I missing something obvious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 John Riggins mentioned Green as the logical choice--but I came in on the end of the conversation and missed the premise. Why Arizona--am I missing something obvious? 575984[/snapback] Green drafted Culpepper while HC of the Vikings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo mike2 Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Daunte Culpepper, even with a torn-up knee that's in the midst of rehab, is reportedly asking his agent to seek a renegotiated deal--and the rumor is that the Vikes might seek a first-round pick for DC. (I don't think they'll get a 1st rounder for DC unless there are contingencies attached based on performance, health, etc.) Hypothetical question (and I am pro-JPL, by the way): is there a place in the mix for a QB like Culpepper with the Bills? I'm assuming he is going to lose a step after the surgery, but he is a seasoned vet with a great set of skills. I am not abandoning the JP concept, but if we have a chance to get someone who might approach the level of a franchise QB, does it bear consideration? Perhaps hang on to Holcomb as the backup and trade the kid? This would mean beefing up the lines primarily through free agency and Marv working his magic picking guys deeper into day one and on day two. Finally, given that JP was brought in by TD (and considering Ralph Wilson made a point to say he wanted to see film--which makes me wonder if TD did the hard sell to bring the kid in), I wonder how committed Marv is going to be to the JP experiment? I know I am going to get killed on this one. Fire away. 575978[/snapback] I got blasted a month ago for bringing this up....good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kultarr Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Culpepper has, reportedly, small hands. And, you know what they say about a guy with small hands, right? FUMMMMMMMMMMMMMBLLLLLLLLLLLE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 haven't we learned anything yet? we don't need another QB.......we need a freakin OL.....no QB will be effective until that gets sorted out....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kultarr Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 we don't need another QB.......we need a freakin OL 576068[/snapback] Can I ask Santa for both? Please?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Pipe Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Daunte Culpepper, even with a torn-up knee that's in the midst of rehab, is reportedly asking his agent to seek a renegotiated deal--and the rumor is that the Vikes might seek a first-round pick for DC. (I don't think they'll get a 1st rounder for DC unless there are contingencies attached based on performance, health, etc.) Hypothetical question (and I am pro-JPL, by the way): is there a place in the mix for a QB like Culpepper with the Bills? I'm assuming he is going to lose a step after the surgery, but he is a seasoned vet with a great set of skills. I am not abandoning the JP concept, but if we have a chance to get someone who might approach the level of a franchise QB, does it bear consideration? Perhaps hang on to Holcomb as the backup and trade the kid? This would mean beefing up the lines primarily through free agency and Marv working his magic picking guys deeper into day one and on day two. Finally, given that JP was brought in by TD (and considering Ralph Wilson made a point to say he wanted to see film--which makes me wonder if TD did the hard sell to bring the kid in), I wonder how committed Marv is going to be to the JP experiment? I know I am going to get killed on this one. Fire away. 575978[/snapback] Please, even before his knee injury he was a middle of the road QB. All he did was throw 50-50 balls to Randy Moss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crackur Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Please, even before his knee injury he was a middle of the road QB. All he did was throw 50-50 balls to Randy Moss. 576070[/snapback] another hater....... the guy was a good pocket passer.....better than JP will ever be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Pipe Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 another hater....... the guy was a good pocket passer.....better than JP will ever be 576071[/snapback] Then why the winning streak when Brad Johnson took over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Daunte Culpepper, even with a torn-up knee that's in the midst of rehab, is reportedly asking his agent to seek a renegotiated deal--and the rumor is that the Vikes might seek a first-round pick for DC. (I don't think they'll get a 1st rounder for DC unless there are contingencies attached based on performance, health, etc.) Hypothetical question (and I am pro-JPL, by the way): is there a place in the mix for a QB like Culpepper with the Bills? I'm assuming he is going to lose a step after the surgery, but he is a seasoned vet with a great set of skills. I am not abandoning the JP concept, but if we have a chance to get someone who might approach the level of a franchise QB, does it bear consideration? Perhaps hang on to Holcomb as the backup and trade the kid? This would mean beefing up the lines primarily through free agency and Marv working his magic picking guys deeper into day one and on day two. Finally, given that JP was brought in by TD (and considering Ralph Wilson made a point to say he wanted to see film--which makes me wonder if TD did the hard sell to bring the kid in), I wonder how committed Marv is going to be to the JP experiment? I know I am going to get killed on this one. Fire away. 575978[/snapback] culpepper is a disaster -- i had said this all along and then it became clesr to everyone how much better vikes were after he went down and was replaced by an average QB like brad johnson. bills giving up a high first round draft pick for him would be absolute insanity and suicide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Culpepper has, reportedly, small hands. And, you know what they say about a guy with small hands, right?FUMMMMMMMMMMMMMBLLLLLLLLLLLE!!! 576066[/snapback] They have a hard time friggin' their big rigs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarthur31 Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 haven't we learned anything yet? we don't need another QB.......we need a freakin OL.....no QB will be effective until that gets sorted out....... 576068[/snapback] Amen brother! When the lights go out on this forum everybody screams for batteries and flashlights; nobody is concerned about getting the juice back on. The moral here: fix what's really broke and quit fuggen around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikes16 Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 haven't we learned anything yet? we don't need another QB.......we need a freakin OL.....no QB will be effective until that gets sorted out....... 576068[/snapback] Valid point and understood except for the fact that Kelly Holcomb didnt seem to struggle with our crap o line as much as JP did. Thats a fact. Explain that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 To compete with JP and Holcomb for the starting job? Why not. But the bills will need to focus on fixing their big problems before worrying about the QB situation. A washed up veteran starter like Favre (sorry if I offended anyone calling him washed up, but his best years are behind him) might be good for JP to learn behind instead of learning from a journeyman backup like Holcomb (Holcomb is a good backup, but not a guy I want as our starter, If he wasn't good enough for Clevland, Why would we want him?) This is the main reason i didn't want to see bledsoe go yet. He may not be in his prime right now, but JP could have learned ALOT watching studying with him for a couple of seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarthur31 Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Valid point and understood except for the fact that Kelly Holcomb didnt seem to struggle with our crap o line as much as JP did. Thats a fact. Explain that. 576183[/snapback] Oh yea, it was a HUGE improvement!!! Why don't we ask Willis how good it is with either QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Valid point and understood except for the fact that Kelly Holcomb didnt seem to struggle with our crap o line as much as JP did. Thats a fact. Explain that. 576183[/snapback] we were crap with losman and crap with holcomb........common theme? our o-line is crap.......same as last year, and the year before that, and the year before that.......time to fix the real problem......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWatch Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Oh yea, it was a HUGE improvement!!! Why don't we ask Willis how good it is with either QB. 576195[/snapback] Willis has NOTHING to brag about with his performance last year. Plenty of 5th and 6th round draft picks performed better than him and Bills did not need to pay out a full season of pay to rehab nor deal with Rosenass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 but... but... but... i've HEARD of him!!! git 'r dun Marv! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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