Beerball Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 RANK NAME POS CLASS SCHOOL PREV 1. Reggie Bush RB JR USC 1 2. Matt Leinart QB SR USC 2 3. D'Brickashaw Ferguson OT SR Virginia 3 4. A.J. Hawk OLB SR Ohio State 4 5. Vince Young QB JR Texas 5 6. Mario Williams DE JR N.C. State 8 7. Jimmy Williams DC SR Virginia Tech 6 8. Demeco Ryans OLB SR Alabama 7 9. DeAngelo Williams RB SR Memphis 9 10. Chad Greenway OLB SR Iowa 10 11. Jay Cutler QB SR Vanderbilt 11 12. Vernon Davis TE JR Maryland 12 13. Mathias Kiwanuka DE SR Boston College 14 14. Tamba Hali DE SR Penn State 16 15. Michael Huff DB SR Texas 13 16. Santonio Holmes WR JR Ohio State 17 17. Gaines Adams DE JR Clemson 18 18. Derek Hagan WR SR Arizona State 19 19. Haloti Ngata DT JR Oregon 15 20. Sinorice Moss WR SR Miami-FL 24 21. Laurence Maroney RB JR Minnesota 25 22. Paul Posluszny OLB JR Penn State 20 23. Orien Harris DT SR Miami-FL 22 24. Marcedes Lewis TE SR UCLA 26 25. Claude Wroten DT SR LSU 23 26. Marcus McNeill OT SR Auburn 32 27. Brodrick Bunkley DT SR Florida State 30 28. Thomas Howard OLB SR UTEP 21 29. LenDale White RB JR USC 27 30. Kelly Jennings DC SR Miami-FL 28 31. Elvis Dumervil DE SR Louisville 29 32. Leonard Pope TE JR Georgia NR Of their top 10, seven players are not a critical need position for the Bills. Surprised to see Hali as low as he is here. I believe Kiper has him at 7 or 8, a significant difference of opinion. Also, Ngata has fallen to 19 here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACTOBILLSFAN Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 It's going to get really shook up after the combine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipers Hair Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Of their top 10, seven players are not a critical need position for the Bills. Surprised to see Hali as low as he is here. I believe Kiper has him at 7 or 8, a significant difference of opinion. Also, Ngata has fallen to 19 here. 572170[/snapback] Yes - finally a site that has Ngata where he should be. I am so tired of him being over valued because he is the best DT available. You should never reach with a top 10 pick...see choosing Mike Williams or Roy Williams or Ed reed or Dwight Freeny.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven in MD Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 It's going to get really shook up after the combine 572172[/snapback] Agreed! Also, I expect that as new head coaches assess their teams, they might look at different players for their schemes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Yes - finally a site that has Ngata where he should be. I am so tired of him being over valued because he is the best DT available. You should never reach with a top 10 pick...see choosing Mike Williams or Roy Williams or Ed reed or Dwight Freeny.... 572200[/snapback] Excuse me, but hasn't Roy Williams played VERY well for the Pukes? I've never heard a bad word about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipers Hair Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Excuse me, but hasn't Roy Williams played EVERY well for the Pukes? I've never heard a bad word about him. 572211[/snapback] Stated wrong in my post sorry. I ment OVER....I would take Roy Williams in a heartbeat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I had thought Ngata would be available for a while after the eighth pick when I suggested trading down. The gaggle of Defensive Tackles and Marcus Neil OT and others (including Leonard Pope as TE) at the bottom of that pool make trading down a real option. On the other hand there will probably be a whole new reassessment after the combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomcat Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Only 1 O-Lineman in the top 25! damn...were not getting an OLineman with #8...Brick aint Fallin' From ESPN's website... Scouts Inc.'s Top 32 Player Class Pos. School 1. Reggie Bush Jr. RB USC 2. D'Brickashaw Ferguson Sr. OT Virginia 3. Matt Leinart Sr. QB USC 4. Vince Young Jr. QB Texas 5. Mario Williams Jr. DE N.C. State 6. A.J. Hawk Sr. OLB Ohio State 7. Jimmy Williams Sr. DC Virginia Tech 8. Mathias Kiwanuka Sr. DE B.C. 9. Tamba Hali Sr. DE Penn St. 10. Demeco Ryans Sr. OLB Alabama 11. Vernon Davis Jr. TE Maryland 12. DeAngelo Williams Sr. RB Memphis 13. Chad Greenway Sr. OLB Iowa 14. Jay Cutler Sr. QB Vanderbilt 15. Marcus McNeill Sr. OT Auburn 16. Michael Huff Sr. DB Texas 17. Brodrick Bunkley Sr. DT Florida St. 18. Santonio Holmes Jr. WR Ohio St. 19. Haloti Ngata Jr. DT Oregon 20. Leonard Pope Jr. TE Georgia 21. LenDale White Jr. RB USC 22. Darryl Tapp Sr. DE Virginia Tech 23. Laurence Maroney Jr. RB Minnesota 24. Derek Hagan Sr. WR Arizona St. 25. Max Jean-Gilles Sr. OG Georgia 26. Gaines Adams Jr. DE Clemson 27. Sinorice Moss Sr. WR Miami-Fla. 28. Mercedes Lewis Sr. TE UCLA 29. Chad Jackson Jr. WR Florida 30. Ashton Youboty Jr. DC Ohio St. 31. Orien Harris Sr. DT Miami-Fla. 32. Dee Webb Jr. DC Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted January 18, 2006 Author Share Posted January 18, 2006 Only 1 O-Lineman in the top 25! damn...were not getting an OLineman with #8...Brick aint Fallin' 572223[/snapback] Lends credence to trading down if the right guy (d-line or CB) isn't there at 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Of their top 10, seven players are not a critical need position for the Bills. Surprised to see Hali as low as he is here. I believe Kiper has him at 7 or 8, a significant difference of opinion. Also, Ngata has fallen to 19 here. 572170[/snapback] if this is to be believed, then the bills should think about trading down or moving up to land the elite player (ferguson). i would probably risk moving up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostsOfTheRockpile Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Yes - finally a site that has Ngata where he should be. I am so tired of him being over valued because he is the best DT available. You should never reach with a top 10 pick...see choosing Mike Williams or Roy Williams or Ed reed or Dwight Freeny.... 572200[/snapback] Which Roy Williams? Which Mike Williams? I assume you mean the Bills' Mike, who sucks. The WR, jury is still out. The safety Roy Williams has been great for the 'Boys, Dwight Freeney has been a steal for the Colts, and Ed Reed may very well be the best defensive player in the NFL (certainly the best safety). I don't know how you could call them stretches by any means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye Eric Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I heard that D'Brickashaw Ferguson may have some significant motivation problems just like those of Mike Williams. I don't have any attribution or source or anything.... I just, um, heard. (Come on, work with me folks! We need to start some sort of rumor to get him to drop a few positions...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I had thought Ngata would be available for a while after the eighth pick when I suggested trading down. The gaggle of Defensive Tackles and Marcus Neil OT and others (including Leonard Pope as TE) at the bottom of that pool make trading down a real option. On the other hand there will probably be a whole new reassessment after the combine. 572219[/snapback] I agree about the combine. For example, I believe LenDale White will become a top 10 pick after the combine. As far as our pick, I would much rather trade down and take someone like Ngata or Kiwanuka if he drops, and get an extra second rounder. (I'd love to get Eric Winston from Miami. I'm surprised he's dropped out of 1st round rankings) This is a very talented draft and it would be great to have another pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Excuse me, but hasn't Roy Williams played VERY well for the Pukes? I've never heard a bad word about him. 572211[/snapback] You haven't heard/seen he's a liability in coverage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I don't see how we can't take a DE. How much better is the NC St. guy than everybody else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I don't see how we can't take a DE. 572476[/snapback] I've never seen Mario Williams play, but numerous posters with knowledge much more astute than mine hold a very good opinion of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I've never seen Mario Williams play, but numerous posters with knowledge much more astute than mine hold a very good opinion of him. 572520[/snapback] Yeah, I don't really pretend to know anything about it. I think it's funny how most people rip Mel Kiper when they wouldn't have heard of most of these players if it weren't for guys like him; and they're basically just reciting his opinion most of the time anyway and passing it off as their own. I bet there aren't a half dozen people here who have seen him play more than once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundy249 Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Is that the same site that had Mike Williams top 5 the year we picked him??? Oh yeah it is. lol its a crap shoot no one has a clue. There will be some 6th round OL that turns out to be the best in the draft and everyone on this board will see what is wrong with the bills they should have picked this guy. They had blah blah chances at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfladave Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I don't see how we can't take a DE. How much better is the NC St. guy than everybody else? 572476[/snapback] I can't see a more immediate need than at DT and OL. We shouldn't even consider DE in this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crackur Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 The difference between this and any other, is that this is not a draft.......this is the best players ranked the draft does not go by the best players but by the teams needs.......however, if you are the bills........the best available player is the one you pick and you forget about needs....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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