Rubes Posted January 17, 2006 Posted January 17, 2006 So the media is reporting that Jauron is a strong candidate for the job, at least in part, because he and Levy are "close". This seems to be supported by the fact that Levy (a) lived in Chicago while Jauron was there, and (b) Levy did some broadcasting for Bears games while Jauron was the head coach. That's it? That's what this "closeness" is based on? Nothing else? That couldn't possibly be why they are "close". You must be joking.
Corp000085 Posted January 17, 2006 Posted January 17, 2006 If that's the case, then stevestojan is close to the cavemen, simply because they both get geico paychecks.
Typical TBD Guy Posted January 17, 2006 Posted January 17, 2006 So the media is reporting that Jauron is a strong candidate for the job, at least in part, because he and Levy are "close". This seems to be supported by the fact that Levy (a) lived in Chicago while Jauron was there, and (b) Levy did some broadcasting for Bears games while Jauron was the head coach. That's it? That's what this "closeness" is based on? Nothing else? That couldn't possibly be why they are "close". You must be joking. 571324[/snapback] c. Jauron got his coaching career started in 1985 as a DB's coach for the Bills. d. Both are Ivy Leaguers - Levy an MA in English from Harvard, Jauron a BA in history from Yale. That's all I could think of .
34-78-83 Posted January 17, 2006 Posted January 17, 2006 Levy has always spoken highly of DJ, right back to when GW was hired here he stated he thought DJ was one of the best candidates at the time.
Rubes Posted January 17, 2006 Author Posted January 17, 2006 Levy has always spoken highly of DJ, right back to when GW was hired here he stated he thought DJ was one of the best candidates at the time. 571369[/snapback] Does that mean he interviews well?
dave mcbride Posted January 17, 2006 Posted January 17, 2006 c. Jauron got his coaching career started in 1985 as a DB's coach for the Bills. d. Both are Ivy Leaguers - Levy an MA in English from Harvard, Jauron a BA in history from Yale. That's all I could think of . 571363[/snapback] Marv got his MA in British history from Harvard.
34-78-83 Posted January 17, 2006 Posted January 17, 2006 Does that mean he interviews well? 571381[/snapback] Gulp
JCBoston Posted January 17, 2006 Posted January 17, 2006 Gulp 571386[/snapback] Does anyone know what Marv's record was when he first came to Buffalo? IIRC, it wasn't all that good -- and he was "close" to the organization. Just sayin' :-)
Lofton80 Posted January 17, 2006 Posted January 17, 2006 Jauron is not at the level of Sherman. His coordinators in Chicago were John Shoop, Gary Crowton and Greg Blatche all of whom like Jauron had little success in their careers other than the 13-3 season. He will come cheap though which works for RW. I say Sherman.
Mark VI Posted January 17, 2006 Posted January 17, 2006 That's what this "closeness" is based on? 571324[/snapback] No. They watched the premier of Brokerback Mountain and are very huggy, at present.
Guest BackInDaDay Posted January 17, 2006 Posted January 17, 2006 OK. We've got Marv 'lusting' in one post and Marv being 'close' to a Frenchman in another. What the hell is going on around here!?!
In space no one can hear Posted January 18, 2006 Posted January 18, 2006 No. They watched the premier of Brokerback Mountain and are very huggy, at present. 571420[/snapback] No..actually they were seen on Brokeback Mountain....not that there is anything wrong with that.
Buftex Posted January 18, 2006 Posted January 18, 2006 Of all the guys mentioned, I could be sold on Sherman, but I would prefer Jauron. The Bears, particularly when Jauron was there, had one of the more disfunctional management situations in the NFL. The "new" old Bills management might not be much better, but at least Jauron will have some experience in working in it.
ExWNYer Posted January 18, 2006 Posted January 18, 2006 Of all the guys mentioned, I could be sold on Sherman, but I would prefer Jauron. The Bears, particularly when Jauron was there, had one of the more disfunctional management situations in the NFL. The "new" old Bills management might not be much better, but at least Jauron will have some experience in working in it. 571843[/snapback] Jauron is just the type of milquetoast hiring that will kill any glimmer of hope that fans cling to and erode the season ticket base. What a cluster !@#$ this organization has become.
Buftex Posted January 18, 2006 Posted January 18, 2006 Jauron is just the type of milquetoast hiring that will kill any glimmer of hope that fans cling to and erode the season ticket base. What a cluster !@#$ this organization has become. 571846[/snapback] I can't disagree with you at all. Jauron certainly isn't the type of pick that is going to get Bills fans excited, but that doesn't mean he is not a good football coach. I think the fact that Jauron and Sherman seem to be the only candidates, at this point, indicates to me that, yes, Ralph is really out of touch with what the fans want. That may not be a bad thing, in this instance. I agree, this organization does appear to be a big mess. This is the first time in years, no matter how misguided I was in the past, that I have felt this franchise was such a mess. As a Bills fan, I am pinning any optimism I have on Marv Levy. That is all the franchise is giving us right now.
Johnny Posted January 18, 2006 Posted January 18, 2006 What the hell is going on around here!?! 571551[/snapback] not lombardi...marv where else would you rather be
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 18, 2006 Posted January 18, 2006 Jauron started his coaching career in Buffalo as a DB coach back in the 1980's... I am not sure if that was under Levy. Can anyone confirm the years he was here in Buffalo? That may lead to a Levy connection? The Bills did give him his first NFL coaching gig. Like others hace said... there is the Harvard-Yale, Ivy league thingy too.
30dive Posted January 18, 2006 Posted January 18, 2006 I am pretty sure he was on Kay Stephenson's staff.
ganesh Posted January 18, 2006 Posted January 18, 2006 Does anyone know what Marv's record was when he first came to Buffalo? IIRC, it wasn't all that good -- and he was "close" to the organization. Just sayin' :-) 571390[/snapback] Somethinglike 29-40
Typical TBD Guy Posted January 18, 2006 Posted January 18, 2006 Jauron started his coaching career in Buffalo as a DB coach back in the 1980's... I am not sure if that was under Levy. Can anyone confirm the years he was here in Buffalo? That may lead to a Levy connection? The Bills did give him his first NFL coaching gig. Like others hace said... there is the Harvard-Yale, Ivy league thingy too. 572016[/snapback] Jauron only coached in Buffalo for 1 year (1985). Levy joined the Bills in the middle of the 1986 season, so they never met at least as Bills coaches during this time. Here is Jauron's complete career in the NFL: 1973-77 - Lions, player, FS 1978-80 - Bengals, player, FS 1985 - Bills, coach, DB's 1986-94 - Packers, coach, DB's 1995-98 - Jaguars, coach, DC 1999-03 - Bears, coach, HC 2004-05 - Lions, coach, DC 2005 - Lions, coach, interim HC Overall HC record: 36-50 (incl. 0-1 in playoffs) Up through the 2001 season when the Bears went 13-3 and Jauron won Coach of the Year honors, his coaching record was solid and his future looked bright. But then something happened in 2002 (4-12 record) and in 2003 (7-9 record) which led to Jauron's firing. I'm not sure exactly what went wrong with his team, but it's very possible that Marv Levy saw (and is currently seeing) a similarity between Jauron's downfall in Chicago as he did his own downfall during his own 5 seasons as a first-time HC (with the Chiefs from 1978-82). Marv, a Chicago native, was probably watching the Bears' situation closely as an NFL media analyst following his HC retirement. So in summary, the big questions I propose to all of you are: A. What went wrong in Chicago during the 2002 and 2003 seasons? B. What went wrong with Levy's Chiefs in the early 80's? C. Are there any similarities between A and B? If the answer to C is "yes," then Jauron may very well be the leading candidate.
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