John in VA Beach Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 I think a lot of you folks need to consider this from a bit different perspective. Maybe this whole thing sends the message to potential coaches that you'd better believe you can put up a winner before you get here, because we are sick of loosing and will no longer accept it? Any coach worth a dime will believe in his own ability to build a winner and will not consider passing on Buffalo because he might not get his pay of he is canned. I want a guy who is sure he will succeed. MM showed in resigning he had no confidence he could build a winner here. If he was offended by what people said he should have had the balls to think that they'll change their tune next year when we're in the playoffs. Obviously, he didn't have that confidence in himself, so I say good riddance.
IndyMark Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 Apparently not, as you refuted nothing I said. You merely resorted to personal attacks. Your best retort was that an NFL head coaching position is attractive no matter what the negatives attached, but with as many openings as there are, I doubt Buffalo is number one on many lists.Was this a self-examiniation? Because I would argue that immaturity/insecurity is most readily apparent in shallow personal attacks backed up by no argument what-so-ever. 566280[/snapback] That is a pretty selective memory, my friend. Look at your intial response to me. So when you call me ignorant that is NOT a personal attack? Your panties are all uptight because you think all of the NFL is laughing at us. Big deal. Did you conveniently forget our 4 consecutive superbowl losses? Yea, cause no one laughed at us then Your Psychology 101 analysis was cute, in a "look at me I just finished my first year at college" kind of way. Since when did backing up arguments with facts become a rule on this forum? Hey, if you feel strong and smart after posting here - good for you. You probably need it. Bottom line, no one knows how the Bills will pan out over the next few months. Sit back, relax and enjoy the ride.
Grant Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 That is a pretty selective memory, my friend. Look at your intial response to me. So when you call me ignorant that is NOT a personal attack? Aww, is that what made you upset, Marky? I didn't mean it in a harsh way. I was being a bit snarky, but I wasn't trying to be mean. I'm sorry if I hurt your widdle feelings here on Two Bills Drive, where we specialize in football and cuddling! Your panties are all uptight because you think all of the NFL is laughing at us. Big deal. Did you conveniently forget our 4 consecutive superbowl losses? Yea, cause no one laughed at us then That makes the current events justified? "We were laughed at before, it's okay if it happens again"? What? Jesus, Mark, think before you type. Your Psychology 101 analysis was cute, in a "look at me I just finished my first year at college" kind of way. I would try to remind you that you were the first to offer an analysis, but somehow I'm pretty sure it will fall on blind eyes. Since when did backing up arguments with facts become a rule on this forum? It's not a rule, but it generally helps your credibility. You don't need to worry about that anymore, though. Bottom line, no one knows how the Bills will pan out over the next few months. Sit back, relax and enjoy the ride. 566376[/snapback] Er... well, of course no one knows what the future holds. But we weren't talking about the future, hombre. We were talking about the recent past and whether or not it was the right decision. I'm not sure why on TSW it's so difficult to have conversations strictly about football (I'm not even asking for intelligent conversations anymore). More than half the time it degenerates into fights or off-topic silliness. But I do think what transpired with Mularkey is worth talking about. I think it's a terrible blemish on the franchise and it's something that ought to not be just swept aside because we wanted Mularkey out anyway. Yes, most of us (including myself) wanted Mularkey out. But not like this. No one's upset that Mularkey is gone, but I am definitely upset in the way that it was handled. And it's worth talking about, dammit.
beerme1 Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 Let...There...Be...Peace...On Earth.. And let it begin with me ! ( Sobbing... singing loudly..) 566219[/snapback] Sing out loud Sing out proud Sing.... Happy not sad...
JAMIEBUF12 Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 i am crazy happy mike resigned and i am glad we fired td. who cares how people will perceive mike quitting on the bills ,just be glad he is gone
beerme1 Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 Well, you're almost there. If Ralph is making it clear he'd rather manipulate a coach into resigning rather than honoring a written contract, why would any player or coach want to come into an environment that clearly not interested in having any class at all? It drives me nuts that fans on these boards are willing to excuse the behavior from this organization just because we're fans. Like Ralph Wilson is our alcoholic parent and we just keep making excuses for him, trying to convince ourselves that "they" know best. People get angry when a player demands more money or a trade when they don't like their original contract. Why is no one getting upset that Wilson won't honor a deal he made two years ago? You signed Mularkey for 5 years. If you want him here that long, you've got him. If you don't, then be a man, fire him and pay him. But manipulating someone into quitting because you're trying to save a few thousand? Fuggin' ridiculous! It makes me beyond embarassed to associate with this franchise. At least when the Bills didn't make the playoffs a few years ago, we could still say the franchise had class. Well, you can't say that with a straight face anymore. 566245[/snapback] Sorry to but in, but can I suggest that you never, EVER buy a ticket to a Bills game again. Thanks.
IndyMark Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 Aww, is that what made you upset, Marky? I didn't mean it in a harsh way. I was being a bit snarky, but I wasn't trying to be mean. I'm sorry if I hurt your widdle feelings here on Two Bills Drive, where we specialize in football and cuddling! That makes the current events justified? "We were laughed at before, it's okay if it happens again"? What? Jesus, Mark, think before you type. I would try to remind you that you were the first to offer an analysis, but somehow I'm pretty sure it will fall on blind eyes. It's not a rule, but it generally helps your credibility. You don't need to worry about that anymore, though. Er... well, of course no one knows what the future holds. But we weren't talking about the future, hombre. We were talking about the recent past and whether or not it was the right decision. I'm not sure why on TSW it's so difficult to have conversations strictly about football (I'm not even asking for intelligent conversations anymore). More than half the time it degenerates into fights or off-topic silliness. But I do think what transpired with Mularkey is worth talking about. I think it's a terrible blemish on the franchise and it's something that ought to not be just swept aside because we wanted Mularkey out anyway. Yes, most of us (including myself) wanted Mularkey out. But not like this. No one's upset that Mularkey is gone, but I am definitely upset in the way that it was handled. And it's worth talking about, dammit. 566433[/snapback] Wow, Grant you are so witty. Your personal attacks and sarcastic dispostion, while you believe to be carefully crafted, ultimately yield the hypocrite you are. We could banter on endlessly and, I imagine in some warped way you would find that appeasing to your self worth. But alas, my friend Grant, I just like to stop by here see what is up and leave the big thinking logic-based arguing to the heavy hitters like yourself. While forums like this serve multiple purposes, validating self ought not be one of them (I hope you were sitting for that). I hope you had a good time and feel better now - because the reputation of the Bills is on the line after all and who better to right the ship or get everyone thinking the same way other than you? That is a big job and I am sure your perception of your self is up to it. It has been a pleasure Grant.
AJ1 Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 It makes me beyond embarassed to associate with this franchise. Then disassociate yourself. If I have to read any more of this drama queen morally outraged puffery I'll puke.
IndyMark Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 Then disassociate yourself. If I have to read any more of this drama queen morally outraged puffery I'll puke. 566456[/snapback] I needed your words about two responses ago - well said. He actually suckered me into responding to his urine.
Grant Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 Then disassociate yourself. If I have to read any more of this drama queen morally outraged puffery I'll puke. 566456[/snapback] Awesome. Again, the only solution is "if you don't like it, GIT OUT!" Maybe in some ways you're right. After all, it is only football. Why really worry about it? Well, we shouldn't. And I don't think the Bills drastically affect one's overall mood or day or whatever drastically anyway. But this is a Bills message board. Although the fans don't have any real say nor power in the direction of the franchise, it is a franchise that, for whatever reason, we've decided we like enough to seek out an internet site to post on about said franchise. And right now, the Bills are in the middle of a quagmire. I can see nothing wrong with wanting to talk about why this is or how to get out of it. After all, it seems kind of ridiculous to want every post to always be "GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Edit: Since we haven't even discussed the topic at hand since page one and we're already at the bottom of page two and still chasing our tails, it's kind of pointless (for me anyway) to keep this up.
beerme1 Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 Although the fans don't have any real say nor power in the direction of the franchise, [/i] 566481[/snapback] Really? So you think MM is lying about the "detractors" affecting him? Really? You think if we (not you) fans didn't speak out in any manner we have available to us including message boards that TD would be gone? Really? I ask that you never EVER buy a ticket to a Bills game so that much like people who don't vote are not entitled to B word about any political landscape, you too shall be silenced. In a way that would make TD proud.
Rico Posted January 14, 2006 Posted January 14, 2006 I did not really want to see TD go, but I am overjoyed to see Meathead leave... more than a push, right now I'm happy! This could change pretty quick though if Ralph/Marv !@#$ up the next HC choice/FA decisions/Draft.
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