AKC Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 as for getting a new coach, great. let's get some assistant coach who's never done a goddamn thing and who no one truly knows anything about except that he comes from a vaguely defined "good coaching tree." 563405[/snapback] There's truth to that- the Williams and Mularkey hirings both should have come with a "needs leadership experience" expectation that the media and fan base really don't acknowledge. We haven't hired a known leader in this coach (once again), and last time IIRC the reaction when it was clear GW wasn't cutting it early on as a CEO was to add some "seasoned" staff to help him out. Now the big guy sees that Mularkey is struggling and apparently feels he's not getting the bodies necessary but that MM may still develop into a leader and a good coach. What scares me is that MM was an OC and for my money ouur offensive coaching was easily the biggest problem on that side of the ball. Maybe he puts it together, but it would have been nice to see at least his supposed strength pop up a little during this past season. So now are we seeing a bit of Deja Vu in the same old tactic of bringing in the old-time leader to rub off on the young leader in training? I don't have strong feelings one way or the other on MM, and I also have no problem with the corporate "shakeup". I'll give Mularkey the benefit of the doubt in assuming he has improved from his experience and that improvement will manifest itself in some way on the field next year- it's hard to imagine not improving but it wouldn't be without precedent! But assuming the positive we're probably better off with SOME continuity and sideline familiarity with our talent versus a change there also.
Bear Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 it's all wwf stuff...............he's just not handling anything well, especially the qb's, and the football team. 563534[/snapback] Well, as long as he keeps it to just the QB and the football team, I can't think of a reason he should go.
sweet baboo Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 I'm picturing MM the way Henri Winkler played the Muddogs coach in The Waterboy when things went bad hiding in his apartment wearing high heels and lipstick
ASCI Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 This is why. What a big kitty! In the wake of Donahoe's dismissal, Mularkey has become the new target for fans critical of the team's direction. Friends of Mularkey said he was deeply affected by the firing of Donahoe and that this season exacted a physical and mental toll.
Johnny Coli Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 You just know Losman has broken out the champagne. Time to fit Holcomb with a new bench.
ChasBB Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 I'm sure that a seasoned coach will be brought in. Remember how Levy is with rookie players? They usually ride the bench for a season or two. Levy like experience and he'll probably want it in his HC, as well.
seq004 Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 I really think it's for the best of the team. Why would you want to be a assistant on a team with a lame duck coach. Nobody's going to want to come. He's lost his players anyway. I think it's best to start everything over including head coach. Let it end.
Guiseppe Posted January 13, 2006 Posted January 13, 2006 In all seriousness, does anybody now wonder why this team had no MENTAL TOUGHNESS over the past two seasons? This is ridiculous. If the Buffalo fans can run Mularkey out of town, God help him if he ever takes a job in NYC, Philly, or DC. What fans say and do is often inexcusable, but for a professional coach to QUIT over it? Unbelievable. 563446[/snapback] ditto !!!!
KOKBILLS Posted January 13, 2006 Posted January 13, 2006 In all seriousness, does anybody now wonder why this team had no MENTAL TOUGHNESS over the past two seasons? This is ridiculous. If the Buffalo fans can run Mularkey out of town, God help him if he ever takes a job in NYC, Philly, or DC. What fans say and do is often inexcusable, but for a professional coach to QUIT over it? Unbelievable. 563446[/snapback] Exactly what I was thinking...About the toughness...I've been saying forever the guy is not a Leader of Men...He just made me look like a genius...And I'm no genius... He will never be a HC in the NFL again...Well...not for a long while at the very least...He will be blackballed for this...Quitting is the worst thing you can do...
stevestojan Posted January 13, 2006 Posted January 13, 2006 Why am I happy about Mularkey retiring? There are SO many blockheaded things he's done to make this announcement bring joy to me (ya know, calling a pass play on 1st and goal at the 3 in Miami, with game in hand, punting the ball down by 2 scores with 4 minutes left in either week 3 or 4, taking all play calling responsibility away from his OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR,.... the list goes on). But, the best way to sum up why I am THRILLED he is gone can be expressed in five words: Roscoe Parrish back to pass.
KOKBILLS Posted January 13, 2006 Posted January 13, 2006 it's sad, actually. the buffalo media and fan base has become more abusive than i can ever remember, and that's gotta to be tough to deal with for anyone. 563405[/snapback] Come on dave...Cry me a freaking river...Chances are MM's settlement is more money than this Board will see collectively for the next few Years...I've been let go in the Real World...More than once...I have no sympathy for a guy who can't hack it on Fantasy Island...
turftoe Posted January 13, 2006 Posted January 13, 2006 I agree. The media, and fan base for thgat matter, have been downright abusive toward Mularkey. They were the same with Williams, and I fear will be the same with anyone who comes here and doesnt win right off the bat. You have A$$wipes like Sullivan in the media who are always trying to manipulate the bills into making certain moves. Look at his last article pressing for Cotrell for DC. He is a little twit that has an open forum to sling crap and make "Dawgged" suggestions. Buffalo has a single media outlet in The Buffalo News and seldomly is anything uplifting generated from that rinky dink paper. Mularkey was not my choice for coach at the time. I wanted Weis, but that is beside the point. My point is that Buffalo is going to have a hard time selling itself to the top available coaches, and that, my fellow Bills fans, is a real bummer!
HurlyBurly51 Posted January 13, 2006 Posted January 13, 2006 Ding dong, the witch is dead! Looks like the weekend drinking starts early this week
Joe in NC Posted January 13, 2006 Posted January 13, 2006 I agree. The media, and fan base for thgat matter, have been downright abusive toward Mularkey. They were the same with Williams, and I fear will be the same with anyone who comes here and doesnt win right off the bat. You have A$$wipes like Sullivan in the media who are always trying to manipulate the bills into making certain moves. Look at his last article pressing for Cotrell for DC. He is a little twit that has an open forum to sling crap and make "Dawgged" suggestions. Buffalo has a single media outlet in The Buffalo News and seldomly is anything uplifting generated from that rinky dink paper. Mularkey was not my choice for coach at the time. I wanted Weis, but that is beside the point. My point is that Buffalo is going to have a hard time selling itself to the top available coaches, and that, my fellow Bills fans, is a real bummer! 563889[/snapback] Honestly, who wants a head coach who can't handle a little criticism. If MM's that fragile he's in the wrong business.
bdelma Posted January 13, 2006 Posted January 13, 2006 it's sad, actually. the buffalo media and fan base has become more abusive than i can ever remember, and that's gotta to be tough to deal with for anyone. as for getting a new coach, great. let's get some assistant coach who's never done a goddamn thing and who no one truly knows anything about except that he comes from a vaguely defined "good coaching tree." i hope mularkey stays. but given the espn reports, i seriously doubt that he will. 563405[/snapback] Because as bills fan were sick of losing. I know I am after watching these guys since 1965. You'd get tired of the crap too.
In space no one can hear Posted January 13, 2006 Posted January 13, 2006 Are you seriously asking this question??
BenchBledsoe Posted January 13, 2006 Posted January 13, 2006 Why are we thrilled? Because our own little Mike Tice has just shuffled out of town. OR . . . because we like to win, not lose.
Tony P Posted January 13, 2006 Posted January 13, 2006 I'm not concerned with MM as much as I am with the vibe it sends off to perspective coaching candidates and FAs. The only coaches who might now be interested in coming to a F'd up situation like this are guys like Cottrell or Haz, who've worked or played here before. I'd prefer to draw from a deeper talent pool than that... 563438[/snapback] Sorry, but I respectfully disagree. Any recently released HC is going to jump into the chance to get right back into the game. It means a payday and a chance to reclaim their reputation. Albeit in the minority, I believe that coaching was a big part of why this team played so poorly this past season. Bad handling of respected veteran players and a total eff-up of the QB situation are perfect examples of my point. I'm all for a fresh start with a seasoned NFL HC. And I'll bet that if ML learned anything from the GM's he's been around, we'll not get an up-and-coming coordinator this time around but a proven professional.
beerme1 Posted January 13, 2006 Posted January 13, 2006 Why am I happy about Mularkey retiring? There are SO many blockheaded things he's done to make this announcement bring joy to me (ya know, calling a pass play on 1st and goal at the 3 in Miami, with game in hand, punting the ball down by 2 scores with 4 minutes left in either week 3 or 4, taking all play calling responsibility away from his OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR,.... the list goes on). But, the best way to sum up why I am THRILLED he is gone can be expressed in five words: Roscoe Parrish back to pass. 563828[/snapback] I think it should be mentioned here for accuracy and fairness to him. You forgot to mention that Rosce STILL HAD A CAST ON when that play was called. Hey maybe that was a good call. Who would believe it was called? Your right the list goes on and on. And the sad part is it only took two years to amass such a list. Also don't forget the competitive advantage gained by not naming a starter Mike, See ya.
finknottle Posted January 13, 2006 Posted January 13, 2006 I'm not concerned with MM as much as I am with the vibe it sends off to perspective coaching candidates and FAs. The only coaches who might now be interested in coming to a F'd up situation like this are guys like Cottrell or Haz, who've worked or played here before. I'd prefer to draw from a deeper talent pool than that... 563438[/snapback] On the contrary, I think this cleans things up greatly and makes this more attractive. Nobody wanted to come here to play for a coach with an iffy future, under a new GM - they don't want to be tarred with the old regime. Now if they come, they are part of the solution, the new era.
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