NYGPopgun10 Posted January 8, 2006 Posted January 8, 2006 (edited) You are SO 80's! 558792[/snapback] Did you say 80's? Mister Mister, Tears For Fears, Tiffany, Debbie Gibson, Heart, Cyndi Lauper, Madonna when she was HOT, FYC, Milli Vanilli , Kool & The Gang, Don Henley, Bryan Adams, The Cars, Michael before he lost his mind, George Michael, Poison, GNR when Axl cared, Def Leppard, Winger, A Ha (coolest video), Run DMC, MC Hammer, Tone Loc, Young MC, etc. Easy Money, The Blues Brothers, Fast Times At Ridgemont High, Caddyshack, The Breakfast Club, The Principal, Planes Trains Automobiles, Back To School, Back To The Future Trilogy, Teen Wolf Trading Places, Both 48 Hours, Beverly Hills Cop I and II, Coming To America, Dead Poet's Society, Weird Science, Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, Heathers, Hoosiers, The Natural, Field of Dreams, Ghostbusters I and II, Gremlins, A Nightmare On Elm Street, etc. Morton Downey and Arsenio Hall The Facts of Life, Different Strokes, The Cosby Show, Family Ties, The Wonder Years, Cheers, Dallas, The Dukes of Hazzard (with the real Daisy ), The A-Team, Dynasty, Knots Landing, Growing Pains, Full House, etc. Ah...my era! I wonder what Clements22 will do when he sees this post. Edited January 8, 2006 by NYGPopgun10
rockpile Posted January 8, 2006 Posted January 8, 2006 Yes. The good old days: MTV played music videos; VH1 was easy listening elevator music Cable TV was $20 a month Saw The Who at Rich Stadium - 80,000 fans - $15 tickets Got my first VCR - had to manually program the "12 channels most likely to record" My mortgage was $286 a month (PITI) My pay was $6 an hour I worked two jobs, went to night school, and raised four kids I still wore my disco sucks shirt I would NOT buy George Michael's "I Want Your Sex" for my daughter The Bills started and ended the decade as NOT losers Don't even get me started on the 70's - in 1970 I got my driver's license and gas was 29 cents a gallon. Did you say 80's? Mister Mister, Tears For Fears, Tiffany, Debbie Gibson, Heart, Cyndi Lauper, Madonna when she was HOT, FYC, Milli Vanilli , Kool & The Gang, Don Henley, Bryan Adams, The Cars, Michael before he lost his mind, George Michael, Poison, GNR when Axl cared, Def Leppard, Winger, A Ha (coolest video), Run DMC, MC Hammer, Tone Loc, Young MC, etc. Easy Money, The Blues Brothers, Fast Times At Ridgemont High, Caddyshack, The Breakfast Club, The Principal, Planes Trains Automobiles, Back To School, Back To The Future Trilogy, Trading Places, Both 48 Hours, Beverly Hills Cop I and II, Coming To America, Dead Poet's Society, Weird Science, Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, Heathers, Hoosiers, The Natural, Field of Dreams, Ghostbusters I and II, Gremlins, A Nightmare On Elm Street, etc. Morton Downey and Arsenio Hall Ah...my era! I wonder what Clements22 will do when he sees this post. 558796[/snapback]
NYGPopgun10 Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 Yes. The good old days: MTV played music videos; VH1 was easy listening elevator music Cable TV was $20 a month Saw The Who at Rich Stadium - 80,000 fans - $15 tickets Got my first VCR - had to manually program the "12 channels most likely to record" My mortgage was $286 a month (PITI) My pay was $6 an hour I worked two jobs, went to night school, and raised four kids I still wore my disco sucks shirt I would NOT buy George Michael's "I Want Your Sex" for my daughter The Bills started and ended the decade as NOT losers Don't even get me started on the 70's - in 1970 I got my driver's license and gas was 29 cents a gallon. 558800[/snapback] Man, I can't go back that far . Other 80's: Goonies, Indiana Jones Trilogy, Terminator, The Running Man, The Shining, Hallowen IV and V, Hellraiser I and II, Stand By Me Richard Marx , David Bowie, Billy Idol, Whitesnake, Inxs, U2, The Police, Sting, Springsteen & E Street Band, Lionel Richie, A Hot and Clean Whitney Houston, Motley Crue, ZZ Top, The Beastie Boys, Prince, Duran Duran, Live Aid, Band Aid, The Cure I loved MTV back then btw Rockpile. That's when it actually ruled. I religiously watched the Top 20 countdown every Friday when I got home from school. Also liked watching Yo MTV Raps .
Simon Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 This is all predicated on some belief that a team wouldn't hire the best guy because of a simple gene expression. teams that don't hire top-notch coaching talent, black or white, have their miserable records to show for it. The rule isn't about altering hiring practices, it's about altering interviewing practices. Most owners are old school guys who are practicing, dedicated members of the old boy network. When it's time to interview people for open positions they tend to interview guys they know because it's a natural tendency. Unfortunately not many black coaches are members of the old boy network so they rarely ever even got a chance to meet the owners or the opportunity to show their knowledge and skills. The rule is simply an attempt to get some of these deserving guys into the regular interview rotations each year. I don't know if it's effective or not and I really don't care much for it because it doesn't really address the root of the problem. BUt at leat the NFL is making some kind of effort to get these guys moving in the same circles as those who make hiring decisions. Cya
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 It's a national disgrace that the NFL doesn't have a Chinese head coach... 558711[/snapback] There sure are a lot of Chinese players in the league. What is it up to now? .5%
Fake-Fat Sunny Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 The rule isn't about altering hiring practices, it's about altering interviewing practices.Most owners are old school guys who are practicing, dedicated members of the old boy network. When it's time to interview people for open positions they tend to interview guys they know because it's a natural tendency. Unfortunately not many black coaches are members of the old boy network so they rarely ever even got a chance to meet the owners or the opportunity to show their knowledge and skills. The rule is simply an attempt to get some of these deserving guys into the regular interview rotations each year. I don't know if it's effective or not and I really don't care much for it because it doesn't really address the root of the problem. BUt at leat the NFL is making some kind of effort to get these guys moving in the same circles as those who make hiring decisions. Cya 559617[/snapback] Thank you for showing a little more intelligent analysis for the superficial thinking that usually infuses posts on this issue. By the numbers of A-A (and qualified apparently based on the W/L and playofff appearances amassed by A-A HC's), though I do not think one can support a claim that the interview policy is working, the reality of the numbers does seem to indicate that hiring of A-A HC's has increased under the "must interview" rule. It is simply the most superficial and really dumb takes on this issue that this rule means that the NFL should have women HC's, some # of Asians, or left-handed smoke shifters. IMHO is what this is all about is the one of the unfortunate flaws on US society in our history is that our country relied upon race based slavery of humans as an economic development tool. It took a whole bunch of deaths and inuries to great Americans from both the south and the north leading to this country abolishing slavery as a prime effect of our regional civil war, but it really was an advance in our culture. Unfortunately, the civil war was so bruising and folks proved to be so insecure that through the failure to use Reconstruction as a good reunification and rebuilding tool, we ended up with stupidity like the Jim Crow laws and it ended up being reflected in the NFL throught the end of the 20th century in the nonsensical belief that A-A's did have the necessities (as Jimmy the Greek and Al Campanis referred to it) of A-A men to be winning or effective QB's and even today HC's at a number which can be said to approach the pool of potential good A-A HC candidates (if folks have not noticed a strong majority of the players are of A-A heritage and though there is no requirement or guarantee that a good player will be a good coach) clearly there is a much larger potential A-A candidate pool that the number of A-A's who even got interviewed. Like it or not, the reality of the numbers indicates that in fact NFL teams routinely passed over even interviewing seemingly qualified HC candidates for years while idiots like Rich Kotite not only got HC jobs but actually failed and got rehired. I like the must-interview policy because its inception and the fine of that idiot Matt Mullen (who ignored the policy and relied on the good ol boy network to hire an HC and then fire him for failure) it has conincided with a small but significant increase in the hiring of A-A HC's who have fortunately done well (My sense is that a team will certainly find an A-A Rich Kotite out there because gene expresssion has nothing to do with HC quality, but because so many qualified A-A candidates had been passed over or made to wait longer than their skills and character merited, you really have a pent up pool of very good HC candidates who happen to be A-A because they were passed over for that silly reason. I am really pleased about the NFL's approach to this because it eliminates the illusion that there are only two choices here, the status quo of letting the free market fail or a draconian solution like hrining quotas which does not work well. The focus on forcing more interviews is a good positve action as best as I can tell.
Horus Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 oh c'mon..whats with the preppy gay 80's bands ur listing...need to listen to these: metallica, metal church, testament, slayer, savatage, dio, ozzy, black sabbath, overkill, Iron maiden, death angel, morbid angel, megadeth, and so on
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