Albany,n.y. Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 The fact that by interviewing Jerry Gray, a team can meet the NFL's minority candidate interview qualifications is a sham. If the NFL is serious, there would be a list of QUALIFIED candidates that a team must choose from to interview. If, in addition, they want to interview a guy who is so unqualified that he's about to be fired (or resigns) as a coordinator, they can do so. But to have Jerry Gray as the guy who you interview as your minority candidate is disingenuous at best and basically flaunting the rules at worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ1 Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 They should have a majority list, also. Mularkey wouldn't have been on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Would this be a "black list"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 The fact that by interviewing Jerry Gray, a team can meet the NFL's minority candidate interview qualifications is a sham. If the NFL is serious, there would be a list of QUALIFIED candidates that a team must choose from to interview. If, in addition, they want to interview a guy who is so unqualified that he's about to be fired (or resigns) as a coordinator, they can do so. But to have Jerry Gray as the guy who you interview as your minority candidate is disingenuous at best and basically flaunting the rules at worst. 558611[/snapback] It's a token rule anyway. This is all predicated on some belief that a team wouldn't hire the best guy because of a simple gene expression. I'm trying my best to imagine how someone could be so stupid and I still can't fathom any GM or owner saying, "Well, this guy's philosophy fits our system and players and will get us 2 more wins than X, but he's black, so let's just go with X." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted January 8, 2006 Author Share Posted January 8, 2006 It's a token rule anyway. This is all predicated on some belief that a team wouldn't hire the best guy because of a simple gene expression. I'm trying my best to imagine how someone could be so stupid and I still can't fathom any GM or owner saying, "Well, this guy's philosophy fits our system and players and will get us 2 more wins than X, but he's black, so let's just go with X." 558620[/snapback] If one is to believe your logic, Jerry Gray will never get a head coaching job. I believe your logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNRed Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Would this be a "black list"? 558618[/snapback] Zing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark VI Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 They should just do away with it, since that old belief has basically been put to bed. Didn't Lovie Smith just win Coach of The Year over Dungy ? Look at Marvin Lewis, Romeo Crennel, Herm Edwards. If I'm an owner, I pick the right man and could care less about the color of his skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Lamb Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 If one is to believe your logic, Jerry Gray will never get a head coaching job. I believe your logic. 558622[/snapback] And Wade Philips will get another HC attempt ? (Minn) Why color has nothing to do with competency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 (edited) If one is to believe your logic, Jerry Gray will never get a head coaching job. I believe your logic. 558622[/snapback] I wouldn't say never. He just needs to prove that he can succeed on his own. If he can do that (which would necessitate learning a lot more in how to scheme beyond blitzing that doesn't work and lining CBs up 10-15 yards off the ball in addition to how to make halftime adjustments that work) sure. He'll probably hook on somewhere as a DC, or a DB coach as a workup to becoming a DC again. I wish him well. But I think we've seen enough of him to know that we don't have the luxury to wait until he 'gets it.' Edited January 8, 2006 by UConn James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Lamb Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 I wouldn't say never. He just needs to prove that he can succeed on his own. If he can do that (which would necessitate learning a lot more in how to scheme beyond blitzing that doesn't work and lining CBs up 10-15 yards off the ball in addition to how to make halftime adjustments that work) sure. But I think we've seen enough of him to know that we don't have the luxury to wait until he does 'get it.' 558640[/snapback] The "Peter Principle" Rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp000085 Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 It's a token rule anyway. This is all predicated on some belief that a team wouldn't hire the best guy because of a simple gene expression. I'm trying my best to imagine how someone could be so stupid and I still can't fathom any GM or owner saying, "Well, this guy's philosophy fits our system and players and will get us 2 more wins than X, but he's black, so let's just go with X." 558620[/snapback] not to tote the race card, but TD was one racist MOFO Hired Gregg Williams Looked over: Ted Cottrell Marvin Lewis Hired Mike Mularkey Looked over: Lovie Smith Romeo Crennel Now we can hate on the guy for being the Son of Satan AND a member of the KKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark VI Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 not to tote the race card, but TD was one racist MOFO Hired Gregg Williams Looked over: Ted Cottrell Marvin Lewis Hired Mike Mularkey Looked over: Lovie Smith Romeo Crennel Now we can hate on the guy for being the Son of Satan AND a member of the KKK John Guy said the same thing about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Lamb Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 "I guess its sweet revenge that his successor is a Hall of Fame Jew" For a long time poster - that's a fairly stupid comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp000085 Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 "I guess its sweet revenge that his successor is a Hall of Fame Jew" For a long time poster - that's a fairly stupid comment 558650[/snapback] I'm a long time stupid poster, so i don't take offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Now we can hate on the guy for being the Son of Satan AND a member of the KKK 558645[/snapback] In that case, Matt Millen is the Grand Wizard. The only team that's been nominally fined ($10,000 ?) under the rule. Maybe it was all carefully designed specifically to save Millen from himself (and it still didn't work)? He tractor-beamed in on Mooch and two years later, there the Detroit Lions are... two years further along and they've still got an idiot GM who's also taken THREE I've-heard-of-him!!!-WRs in the 1st round of the last four drafts. His survival as GM leads me to question Darwin's theories.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp000085 Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 In that case, Matt Millen is the Grand Wizard. The only team that's been nominally fined ($10,000 ?) under the rule. Maybe it was all carefully designed specifically to save Millen from himself (and it still didn't work)? He tractor-beamed in on Mooch and two years later, there the Detroit Lions are... two years further along and they've still got an idiot GM who's also taken THREE I've-heard-of-him!!!-WRs in the 1st round of the last four drafts. His survival as GM leads me to question Darwin's theories.... 558672[/snapback] millen is still there because its a conspiracy to get brett favre 2 wins per season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 It's a national disgrace that the NFL doesn't have a Chinese head coach... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 This is all predicated on some belief that a team wouldn't hire the best guy because of a simple gene expression. I'm trying my best to imagine how someone could be so stupid 558620[/snapback] Of course people aren't hired because of, as you put it, simple gene expressions. How many women coaches do you see in the NFL? I'm not saying there should be women coaches, mind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 They should just do away with it, since that old belief has basically been put to bed. Didn't Lovie Smith just win Coach of The Year over Dungy ? Look at Marvin Lewis, Romeo Crennel, Herm Edwards. If I'm an owner, I pick the right man and could care less about the color of his skin. 558637[/snapback] Obviously, the teams that don't hire top-notch coaching talent, black or white, have their miserable records to show for it. Hint hint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockpile Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 The "Peter Principle" Rules 558642[/snapback] You are SO 80's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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