Mile High Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 The future is now for the Buffalo Bills. I love this quote.
Doza Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 Levy? Yeesh... That has disaster written all over it.
runner Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 This isn't quoting him exactly, but I loved this one.... The past is history, the future is a mystery, what’s happening now is a gift, and that’s why they call it the present.
BillsGuyInMalta Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 Levy? Yeesh... That has disaster written all over it. 555710[/snapback] Reeeaaaaalllly? You better hope so.
sweet baboo Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 Does he still have the edge you need to get this job done? I love the guy, but at least during this PC, he seems almost too nice... 555683[/snapback] i suppose he'll get mad when he needs to i remember him yelling at a ref so much the gum almost flew out of his mouth
Kelly the Dog Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 Man, to be honest, I thought he looked good and sounded terrible. Nothing like he used to speak. He had seven or eight canned and deeply prepared one liners which were amusing and good but he didnt sound like he was an astute football man in any way. My only hope for this is that they get a sharp, YOUNG future GM candidate from some other organization to take over for John Guy they can groom as a GM. Marv, again, sounded like Uncle Mo to me. All that talk about consensus is fine, but it's just not reality when you have two people out of it and one person not there very much.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 Bills will be aggressive in free agency, right up to the cap limits. The future is now for the Buffalo Bills. 555696[/snapback] That's what I want to hear.
The Poojer Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 Bring in Theo Epstien to learn the football bidness Man, to be honest, I thought he looked good and sounded terrible. Nothing like he used to speak. He had seven or eight canned and deeply prepared one liners which were amusing and good but he didnt sound like he was an astute football man in any way. My only hope for this is that they get a sharp, YOUNG future GM candidate from some other organization to take over for John Guy they can groom as a GM. Marv, again, sounded like Uncle Mo to me. All that talk about consensus is fine, but it's just not reality when you have two people out of it and one person not there very much. 555735[/snapback]
CoachChuckDickerson Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 Man, to be honest, I thought he looked good and sounded terrible. Nothing like he used to speak. He had seven or eight canned and deeply prepared one liners which were amusing and good but he didnt sound like he was an astute football man in any way. My only hope for this is that they get a sharp, YOUNG future GM candidate from some other organization to take over for John Guy they can groom as a GM. Marv, again, sounded like Uncle Mo to me. All that talk about consensus is fine, but it's just not reality when you have two people out of it and one person not there very much. 555735[/snapback] In all seriousness, what difference does it make how old a GM is? What is your qualification for young and old? 40-60 ideal? 18-39 too young? Is there some type of chart your working off of?
The Poojer Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 I am with Kelly, the "old dog, new tricks" thingy. What does Marv know about salary caps? he is a coach, now if the GM is really a 2 headed monster with Modrak(handling the business) and Levy(handling PR, on field consultation/leadership), then fine. Marv's age does scare me In all seriousness, what difference does it make how old a GM is? What is your qualification for young and old? 40-60 ideal? 18-39 too young? Is there some type of chart your working off of? 555749[/snapback]
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 I am with Kelly, the "old dog, new tricks" thingy. What does Marv know about salary caps? What does Marv need to know about salary caps? Nothing. He goes to his salary cap guy and says "We want Xxxx Xxxxxxxxxx. Now make it happen." I mean, Donald Trump doesn't sit there and write the friggin' legal contract. He says "I want to build there. Now go make it happen."
Sound_n_Fury Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 I am with Kelly, the "old dog, new tricks" thingy. What does Marv know about salary caps? he is a coach, now if the GM is really a 2 headed monster with Modrak(handling the business) and Levy(handling PR, on field consultation/leadership), then fine. Marv's age does scare me 555761[/snapback] Modrak is scouting. Overdorf is contracts/capologist. Marv is leadership, direction and organization. Not much overlap.
Kelly the Dog Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 In all seriousness, what difference does it make how old a GM is? What is your qualification for young and old? 40-60 ideal? 18-39 too young? Is there some type of chart your working off of? 555749[/snapback] It doesn't matter how old the guy is whatsoever, it only matters how sharp they are and what they sound like. To me, listening very closely, looking for signs, he doesn't sound anything like the astute football man he sounded like 10 years ago. He answered most everything with bromides and pre-packaged one-liners and with all the clarity and specifics of a politician avoiding taking a stance. All that talk about building a consensus is great, if you can build consensus with a doddering old owner, an out of touch former head coach, a sharp draft guy who doesnt spend much time here, and a lame duck coach everyone here thinks is an incompetent fool.
billsboys Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 LEVY WILL LEAD THIS TEAM TO ANOTHER SUPERBOWL! MAYBE NOT HC BY AS GM!
The Poojer Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 OK, I can buy into that, it just that you always hear that Butler got us into cap hell and TD miraculously saved us What does Marv need to know about salary caps? Nothing. He goes to his salary cap guy and says "We want Xxxx Xxxxxxxxxx. Now make it happen." I mean, Donald Trump doesn't sit there and write the friggin' legal contract. He says "I want to build there. Now go make it happen." 555774[/snapback]
Sound_n_Fury Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 He answered most everything with bromides and pre-packaged one-liners and with all the clarity and specifics of a politician avoiding taking a stance. 555778[/snapback] What did you expect / would have liked to hear him to say?
Kelly the Dog Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 What does Marv need to know about salary caps? Nothing. He goes to his salary cap guy and says "We want Xxxx Xxxxxxxxxx. Now make it happen." I mean, Donald Trump doesn't sit there and write the friggin' legal contract. He says "I want to build there. Now go make it happen." 555774[/snapback] You acquire players through free agency, which is half of your roster, based on what they are worth to you in dollar figures, what they and their agents will accept as payment to join your team, and their talent on the field in direct relationship to those other two things. They are as integral to each other as they could possibly be.
Kelly the Dog Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 What did you expect him to say? 555791[/snapback] I expected him to say exactly what he did, because he's not qualified for half of the job requirements. He's fantastic at what he just did, which is very important, don't get me wrong, get the fan base excited and feeling we're back to the future. What I want a GM to say, is that I am directly involved in player movements and I know the importance of the salary cap while developing a roster. I've spent the last several years with a good idea of the talent around the league and how it works within the cap. I am going to work with my coach who will be here for the remaining three years on his contract and has my full backing but I will not be micro-managing the team. I have a clear vision for this team, and we're going to be _____. The strength of any team is in the trenches, anyone can see that, and we clearly have to get better on both sides of the ball in that area even if we need to revamp the entire OL and DL. We want players who want to be champions as Buffalo Bills and committed to winning in Buffalo and anyone that doesn't want to be here will be shown the door.
zow2 Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 For an old geezer....I thought Marv sounded really good. Seriously, go talk to many 80 year olds and they cannot articulate like Marv did today. I loved the line about "the past is history...the future is a mystery". great stuff!
Joe Fergy Posted January 5, 2006 Posted January 5, 2006 It doesn't matter how old the guy is whatsoever, it only matters how sharp they are and what they sound like. To me, listening very closely, looking for signs, he doesn't sound anything like the astute football man he sounded like 10 years ago. He answered most everything with bromides and pre-packaged one-liners and with all the clarity and specifics of a politician avoiding taking a stance. All that talk about building a consensus is great, if you can build consensus with a doddering old owner, an out of touch former head coach, a sharp draft guy who doesnt spend much time there, and a lame duck coach everyone here thinks is an incompetent fool. 555778[/snapback] The only fool around here I'm responding to.
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