Simon Posted December 24, 2005 Posted December 24, 2005 Just got his ass handed to him by the coach everybody wants to fire.
Simon Posted December 24, 2005 Author Posted December 24, 2005 Once Grey stopped blitzing... 541742[/snapback] Excessive and predictable blitzing has been my #2 complaint about Grey this year, but I thought today was all about the outstanding game Mularkey called against an 11-3 team that's run by a very, very good defensive coach.
KOKBILLS Posted December 24, 2005 Posted December 24, 2005 Just got his ass handed to him by the coach everybody wants to fire. 541737[/snapback] Well...this does not wipe out the 10 previous losses, but you're right... Where the hell was this Team all Year? They played with fire all day, answered adversity time and time again, and every phase contributed against a real good Team on the Road... Kinda makes you wonder what could have been this Year, and no question lets you know this Team is capable... I still want to know where the hell this has been all Year long... Great Game though...
rolly Posted December 24, 2005 Posted December 24, 2005 Just got his ass handed to him by the coach everybody wants to fire. 541737[/snapback] Don't kid yourself. We still suck. Today was a fluke.
Simon Posted December 24, 2005 Author Posted December 24, 2005 Where the hell was this Team all Year? It was taking drive-killing penalties and playing from behind. Today it didn't and it beat a really good team on the road late.
KOKBILLS Posted December 24, 2005 Posted December 24, 2005 It was taking drive-killing penalties and playing from behind.Today it didn't and it beat a really good team on the road late. 541774[/snapback] And held on the last drive too!
Guest BackInDaDay Posted December 24, 2005 Posted December 24, 2005 So this team is capable of playing disciplined, focused football with a sense of urgency. Draw your own conclusions.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 24, 2005 Posted December 24, 2005 So this team is capable of playing disciplined, focused football with a sense of urgency. Draw your own conclusions. 541811[/snapback] I'm sorry, but one win when it doesn't matter doesn't show me sh--. Where was this against Miami? Or how about agaisnt the Patriots? Or even against the STINKING SAINTS? No, all this game showed me is that this is a team that can only perform when there's NO pressure.
Guest BackInDaDay Posted December 24, 2005 Posted December 24, 2005 I'm sorry, but one win when it doesn't matter doesn't show me sh--. Where was this against Miami? Or how about agaisnt the Patriots? Or even against the STINKING SAINTS? No, all this game showed me is that this is a team that can only perform when there's NO pressure. 541819[/snapback] I disagree. They were under a different type of pressure. Every Bill was playing for a spot on next year's roster. If the players sense a change is coming down, it was imperitive to show any new coach that they're not quitting. Playing hard to the whistle means alot to coaches. The lack of this effort in prior weeks reflects poorly on Mularkey. This performance was a matter of the players motivating themselves. When it was up to the coaching staff, half this team mailed it in each week.
Alaska Darin Posted December 24, 2005 Posted December 24, 2005 I disagree. They were under a different type of pressure. Every Bill was playing for a spot on next year's roster. If the players sense a change is coming down, it was imperitive to show any new coach that they're not quitting. Playing hard to the whistle means alot to coaches. The lack of this effort in prior weeks reflects poorly on Mularkey. This performance was a matter of the players motivating themselves. When it was up to the coaching staff, half this team mailed it in each week. 541851[/snapback] Good post.
Simon Posted December 24, 2005 Author Posted December 24, 2005 I disagree. They were under a different type of pressure. Every Bill was playing for a spot on next year's roster. If the players sense a change is coming down, it was imperitive to show any new coach that they're not quitting. Playing hard to the whistle means alot to coaches. The lack of this effort in prior weeks reflects poorly on Mularkey. This performance was a matter of the players motivating themselves. When it was up to the coaching staff, half this team mailed it in each week. 541851[/snapback] I don't think it's been a matter of motivation as much as it has execution. These guys are just killing themselves with the procedure penalties that continually put them in difficult togo situations. I subscribe ot the Parcells theory that most penalties can be pinned on coaching, but that those pre-snap procedure penalties are just a matter of players' concentration. No matter how much you drill them on it in practice, the guys on the field are the ones who have to hold their water and the coaches can't do anything about it(i.e. yet another Bennie Anderson falsestart the second we hit the redzone). I don't think anything about today reflected poorly on Mularkey and I think he's done a pretty credible job in a tough spot this year. Cya
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 24, 2005 Posted December 24, 2005 I don't think anything about today reflected poorly on Mularkey and I think he's done a pretty credible job in a tough spot this year. 541906[/snapback] Really? Provide examples.
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted December 24, 2005 Posted December 24, 2005 I'm sorry, but one win when it doesn't matter doesn't show me sh--. Where was this against Miami? Or how about agaisnt the Patriots? Or even against the STINKING SAINTS? No, all this game showed me is that this is a team that can only perform when there's NO pressure. 541819[/snapback] The good quaterback was sitting on the sidelines. We beat miami with Holcomb, would've beaten the saints with holcomb, probably not the pats though but I doubt it would've been that bad. This team minus the chiefs game has played better football with Holcomb then with Losman. That's not to say that Losman won't be good, just that right now Holcomb is better.
Guest BackInDaDay Posted December 24, 2005 Posted December 24, 2005 I don't think it's been a matter of motivation as much as it has execution. These guys are just killing themselves with the procedure penalties that continually put them in difficult togo situations.I subscribe ot the Parcells theory that most penalties can be pinned on coaching, but that those pre-snap procedure penalties are just a matter of players' concentration. No matter how much you drill them on it in practice, the guys on the field are the ones who have to hold their water and the coaches can't do anything about it(i.e. yet another Bennie Anderson falsestart the second we hit the redzone). I don't think anything about today reflected poorly on Mularkey and I think he's done a pretty credible job in a tough spot this year. Cya 541906[/snapback] Undisciplined play is a direct reflection upon a coach's ability to effectively motivate his players to execute properly. "Killing themselves with the procedure penalties that continually put them in difficult togo situations" does not describe a disciplined team. You say that you "subscribe ot the Parcells theory that most penalties can be pinned on coaching" but in the same sentence pardon the coaching staff because "those pre-snap procedure penalties are just a matter of players' concentration". You see the contradiction? Look. I don't want to bust your chops on Christmas Eve - Merry Christmas, by the way. You're often one of the few rational posters on this board, but you've got this one wrong. This team broke camp with many lofty goals. Different teams react differently to adversity. Mularkey allowed the team's poor start to divide them instead of turning it into an opportunity to get them to play for each other. He's been coaching a collection of individuals ever since. That's a bad job for any coach at any level. I wish it turned out different for him, but it is what it is. Again, have a happy holiday and here's (raising my Sam Adams) to you and yours.
Simon Posted December 24, 2005 Author Posted December 24, 2005 You say that you "subscribe ot the Parcells theory that most penalties can be pinned on coaching" but in the same sentence pardon the coaching staff because "those pre-snap procedure penalties are just a matter of players' concentration". You see the contradiction? 542035[/snapback] Look at the sentence and notice the word "most". That means most penalties except for those procedure penalties. So it's not a contradiction, but rather a differentiation. Parcells says that he'll take the blame for all penalties except for the false starts and offsides and I happen to agree with him. No matter how disciplined your team is or how many practice hours you devote to trying to drill it into them, the ability to wait for the snap is entirely the players' responsibility and there is not a thing the coaches can do to get them to hold their water. Again, have a happy holiday and here's (raising my Sam Adams) to you and yours. Right back at ya' mac. Hope you and yours enjoy your Christmas. And let's hope that next year at this time, we're arguing about whether we're better off going in as the #1 or #2 seed.
Kelly the Dog Posted December 25, 2005 Posted December 25, 2005 Look at the sentence and notice the word "most". That means most penalties except for those procedure penalties. So it's not a contradiction, but rather a differentiation. Parcells says that he'll take the blame for all penalties except for the false starts and offsides and I happen to agree with him. No matter how disciplined your team is or how many practice hours you devote to trying to drill it into them, the ability to wait for the snap is entirely the players' responsibility and there is not a thing the coaches can do to get them to hold their water. 542044[/snapback] I totally agree. I simply don't think you can say it is undisciplined coaching when an offensive player jumps offsides or has a false start. How many times do you see a team one year have a ton of penalties and the next, with the same coaches, and mostly the same players, have relatively few. These guys have been playing these positions since they were 12 years old, for all kinds of different coaches. But jumping offsides or a false start is just a lack of concentration by a professional football player that shouldn't happen more than once or twice a season for anyone, regardless of the discipline of the coach.
Coach Tuesday Posted December 25, 2005 Posted December 25, 2005 I totally agree. I simply don't think you can say it is undisciplined coaching when an offensive player jumps offsides or has a false start. How many times do you see a team one year have a ton of penalties and the next, with the same coaches, and mostly the same players, have relatively few. These guys have been playing these positions since they were 12 years old, for all kinds of different coaches. But jumping offsides or a false start is just a lack of concentration by a professional football player that shouldn't happen more than once or twice a season for anyone, regardless of the discipline of the coach. 542048[/snapback] I dunno. I was watching a college game the other night where every time a player committed a pre-snap penalty (offsides or false start), the coach made him come sit out for a play. Why couldn't that be tried? Personally, I would do it as a coach on clipping/holding penalties on kickoffs- make the guy do 50 pushups on the sideline, in front of 80,000, every time it happens.
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