Chef Jim Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 All I can say is that in 20 years I hope I'm still even the least bit interested in Bush.
Berg Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 Twenty years from now, America will no longer exist, and I will be sitting around waxing nostalgic with Woodrow Jest, thinking "what a friggin' blowhard". BTW, the style was intended. 540906[/snapback] heehheee. Freakin' hilarious. Thanks KT{fab}D.
Berg Posted December 23, 2005 Posted December 23, 2005 All I can say is that in 20 years I hope I'm still even the least bit interested in Bush. 541001[/snapback] Dammit man that was funny too. You guys need to stop.
UConn James Posted December 24, 2005 Posted December 24, 2005 Link. One more reason to believe in God is the hope for the ultimate judgment when someday Someone will pronounce the final truth and we'll be done with all these small mean anecdotes that pass for history. Meanwhile, they constitute most of what we know about politics, stories told by men with a grudge. This is discouraging to the older person. This is all I will ever know about George W. Bush, a series of disparaging observations by people who've met him. Thanks to his own need for secrecy and comfort, nobody will be able to make an informed judgment of the man until you and I are dead and gone. One more reason young people pride themselves on being ill-informed: It don't matter because nobody else knows either. The Nixon tapes were a lightning bolt of illumination, but historians are only starting to unearth the truth about events that dominated the news when I was a young man, and others, such as the assassination of John F. Kennedy, we've almost given up hope of ever understanding. To anyone who was old enough in 1963 to be affected by those gunshots in Dallas, it's truly dreadful, 40 years later, to still not know who was responsible. It is almost unbearable to think about this. I would be happy to find out that I'm wrong about the president. It's exhilarating to discover the truth and to find out that you were off the mark. Alger Hiss probably was a Soviet agent and the fact that Richard Nixon was his accuser doesn't change that. There was a Soviet espionage network in our government and the fact that Joseph McCarthy was a drunk, a bully and a cynical opportunist doesn't change that. Along with a lot of other Democrats, I've wasted a lot of time on these issues that I was, in fact, wrong about. I'm glad to be set straight. ...
Like A Mofo Posted December 24, 2005 Posted December 24, 2005 20 years from now, expect China to be a MAJOR threat to the USA. (I hope Im dead wrong) Remember in the history of Earth, America hasnt been the big power all that long. Things have changed and can change again if we arent careful. While new America is worried about making everything Godless, entertainment, Hollywood stars, pleasure, more pleasure, and being selfish, and less and less emphasis being placed on education, China is a sleeping giant that is gaining economic power at an alarming rate. And just remember who helped build up China's Air Force, Mr. Clinton. This country better wake the F up before its too late.
Berg Posted December 24, 2005 Posted December 24, 2005 20 years from now, expect China to be a MAJOR threat to the USA. (I hope Im dead wrong) Remember in the history of Earth, America hasnt been the big power all that long. Things have changed and can change again if we arent careful. While new America is worried about making everything Godless, entertainment, Hollywood stars, pleasure, more pleasure, and being selfish, and less and less emphasis being placed on education, China is a sleeping giant that is gaining economic power at an alarming rate. And just remember who helped build up China's Air Force, Mr. Clinton. This country better wake the F up before its too late. 541392[/snapback] Wake up and do what? I'm not trying to be a smartass, but what is it you think we should be doing?
Adam Posted December 24, 2005 Author Posted December 24, 2005 20 years from now, expect China to be a MAJOR threat to the USA. (I hope Im dead wrong) Remember in the history of Earth, America hasnt been the big power all that long. Things have changed and can change again if we arent careful. While new America is worried about making everything Godless, entertainment, Hollywood stars, pleasure, more pleasure, and being selfish, and less and less emphasis being placed on education, China is a sleeping giant that is gaining economic power at an alarming rate. And just remember who helped build up China's Air Force, Mr. Clinton. This country better wake the F up before its too late. 541392[/snapback] I disagree- I think that demographic is far smaller that everyone portrays it. For everyone that thinks Paris Hilton is a somebody, there are 10 people in touch with reality
sweet baboo Posted December 25, 2005 Posted December 25, 2005 Wake up and do what? I'm not trying to be a smartass, but what is it you think we should be doing? 541398[/snapback] wake up and kick everyone's ass...if you look at chinese history, they're an extremely warlike people...also if you read JG Ballard's "Empire of the Sun", he notes that one day if the Chinese have the strength, they're going to do something terrible to the world that crapped on them so much (starting from the boxer revolution, i think) one can only hope that they have some sort of internal revolution by the lower class (there have been small uprisings reported in small villages that are completely squashed...reports of the government trying to buy corpses of those involved from the family to really cover things up)...liberals always talk about the huge wealth disparity between the rich and poor in the US...however bad the situation is here for us, it cannot compare to China...if we're lucky (along with the citizens of many other asian nations), China will do itself in by overrunning its economic and military machine while ignoring human rights and the plight of its people outside of its 2 major cities
stuckincincy Posted December 25, 2005 Posted December 25, 2005 20 years from now, I will still be able to buy parts for my Chevy S-10 and my Zippo lighter.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 27, 2005 Posted December 27, 2005 to still not know who was responsible. 541154[/snapback] What the hell is this guy talking about? Oswald acted alone, it's been proven repeatedly by the best and brightest in the forensic sciences.
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted December 27, 2005 Posted December 27, 2005 What the hell is this guy talking about? Oswald acted alone, it's been proven repeatedly by the best and brightest in the forensic sciences. 543045[/snapback] ...says the guy who thinks FDR perpetrated Pearl Harbor.
VABills Posted December 27, 2005 Posted December 27, 2005 ...says the guy who thinks FDR perpetrated Pearl Harbor. 543157[/snapback] Who imposed the oil embargo on Japan?
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 27, 2005 Posted December 27, 2005 ...says the guy who thinks FDR perpetrated Pearl Harbor. 543157[/snapback] Now, now, let's not twist the words. FDR did in fact push the Japanese into a situation where war became inevitable. That is unquestionable.
VABills Posted December 27, 2005 Posted December 27, 2005 Now, now, let's not twist the words. FDR did in fact push the Japanese into a situation where war became inevitable. That is unquestionable. 543173[/snapback] The Japanese were already at war, in China, Russia, India, Korea. PH was just the push to reach out further into the Pacific and negate the ability of the biggest baddest mo fo to stop them. In the CTM's defense. I just think the PH attack was moved up, and expansion quicker then they planned.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 27, 2005 Posted December 27, 2005 The Japanese were already at war, in China, Russia, India, Korea. PH was just the push to reach out further into the Pacific and negate the ability of the biggest baddest mo fo to stop them. In the CTM's defense. I just think the PH attack was moved up, and expansion quicker then they planned. 543187[/snapback] Actually, weren't they only at war in China at the time? Korea had already long been a japanese colony, as had Manchuria. IIRC, did they not coincide the attack on Pearl Harbor with a thrust into the Phillipines, Thailand and Indonesia for the sole purpose of acquring the rubber and oil resources which had been denied them by the US Embargo? Perhaps the war in Asia could have been limited to a Sino-Japanese conflict if it were not for the embargo. Then again, perhaps not. We'll never know.
VABills Posted December 27, 2005 Posted December 27, 2005 Actually, weren't they only at war in China at the time? Korea had already long been a japanese colony, as had Manchuria. IIRC, did they not coincide the attack on Pearl Harbor with a thrust into the Phillipines, Thailand and Indonesia for the sole purpose of acquring the rubber and oil resources which had been denied them by the US Embargo? Perhaps the war in Asia could have been limited to a Sino-Japanese conflict if it were not for the embargo. Then again, perhaps not. We'll never know. 543189[/snapback] You're correct, however to say Japan occupied Korea, yet they weren't at war is "twisting" the facts. Korea to this day abhors Japan. Same goes with Manchuria, however I believe the push was for them to start inland and meet with Germany. Again yes the PH attack coinceided with the rest but I think those attcks were pushed forward due to the embargo, hence I agree with you that FDR caused PH. But to negate the other facts of the situation is a little bit of democrat coming out in you.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 27, 2005 Posted December 27, 2005 Again yes the PH attack coinceided with the rest but I think those attcks were pushed forward due to the embargo, hence I agree with you that FDR caused PH. But to negate the other facts of the situation is a little bit of democrat coming out in you. 543192[/snapback] Indeed. Once in a while, we must embrace out inner idiot....er I mean Democrat.
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted December 27, 2005 Posted December 27, 2005 Now, now, let's not twist the words. FDR did in fact push the Japanese into a situation where war became inevitable. That is unquestionable. 543173[/snapback] No, I was referring to your stated acceptance of the theory that FDR "let" the Japanese attack Pearl Harbor so he could openly go to war with them (and presumably Germany). And commenting on the irony that you'll accept that egregiously stupid conspiracy, but insist Oswald acted alone...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 27, 2005 Posted December 27, 2005 No, I was referring to your stated acceptance of the theory that FDR "let" the Japanese attack Pearl Harbor so he could openly go to war with them (and presumably Germany). And commenting on the irony that you'll accept that egregiously stupid conspiracy, but insist Oswald acted alone... 543253[/snapback] Well, as far as conspiracies go, it's a hell of a lot more believable, considering there was advance intelligence knowledge of a Japanese attack.
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted December 27, 2005 Posted December 27, 2005 Well, as far as conspiracies go, it's a hell of a lot more believable, considering there was advance intelligence knowledge of a Japanese attack. 543407[/snapback] There was advanced intel knowledge of 9/11, too...I guess Bush let that happen as well.
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