OnTheRocks Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Some might say he doesn't need fixing. I say he is destined to be a mediocre player unless he learns to play in the NFL. He has the physical tools he needs the mental tools. I would....and I know this is never going to happen....but after reading the article in The Sporting News yesterday about the league wide crisis at QB, JP Losman wouldn't be the only QB to benefit from this......I would send him to NFL Europe. This might have been mentioned before in the past, in one of the 1001 threads about Losman, and if it was I am sorry to drudge it up. I am not in anyway comparing Losman's ability to Jim Kelly, but I think Jim Kelly learned a lot of mental toughness and how to make quick, instantaneous decisions while playing in the USFL......and he didn't get killed doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frez Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Give JP a running game and I bet he looks like a different QB. Hell give him some coaches that know how to game plan and I bet he looks great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Some might say he doesn't need fixing. I say he is destined to be a mediocre player unless he learns to play in the NFL. He has the physical tools he needs the mental tools. I would....and I know this is never going to happen....but after reading the article in The Sporting News yesterday about the league wide crisis at QB, JP Losman wouldn't be the only QB to benefit from this......I would send him to NFL Europe. This might have been mentioned before in the past, in one of the 1001 threads about Losman, and if it was I am sorry to drudge it up. I am not in anyway comparing Losman's ability to Jim Kelly, but I think Jim Kelly learned a lot of mental toughness and how to make quick, instantaneous decisions while playing in the USFL......and he didn't get killed doing it. 539835[/snapback] Oh yea, I can just see your starting QB, who you invested a two first rounders in, tearing an ACL due to some juiced up nobady wanting to make a name for himself, all in a game that is meaningless. Having said that, I think it would be a great idea that will never happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRocks Posted December 22, 2005 Author Share Posted December 22, 2005 Give JP a running game and I bet he looks like a different QB. Hell give him some coaches that know how to game plan and I bet he looks great! 539840[/snapback] i suppose the typical response to that will be, "give willis mcgahee a passing game and he will be a better RB". which is it? I know the root of the problem is the offensive line. but provide those guys with a quality offensive line and i think the passing game is still going to suffer due to Losmans complete inability to complete a simple GD Freakin' 5 yard out pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Coli Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 I don't see the point in starting him anywhere but under center here in the NFL. He should have started every single game this season, and the last 8 games last year. Mularkey has handled this kid all wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 I think its a cosmetic job. He'd look better with FIVE 300 LB MEAN OFFENSIVE LINEMEN in front of him. Would probably fix our receivers and McGahee as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 he tossed 3 TDs in one quarter, and has put up some quality bombs this season. he can run very well. i think he should be good, our O as a unit is pretty god aweful, let's get some pro level coaches and a couple linemen in here and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 i suppose the typical response to that will be, "give willis mcgahee a passing game and he will be a better RB". which is it? I know the root of the problem is the offensive line. but provide those guys with a quality offensive line and i think the passing game is still going to suffer due to Losmans complete inability to complete a simple GD Freakin' 5 yard out pattern. 539844[/snapback] Might sound juvenile but - I would rather have a runnning game for those 5 yarders and JP consistently throwing long strikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRocks Posted December 22, 2005 Author Share Posted December 22, 2005 Might sound juvenile but - I would rather have a runnning game for those 5 yarders and JP consistently throwing long strikes. 539905[/snapback] so i suppose on 3rd and 5 you are going to run the ball or throw a long ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 but provide those guys with a quality offensive line and i think the passing game is still going to suffer due to Losmans complete inability to complete a simple GD Freakin' 5 yard out pattern. 539844[/snapback] Sounds like you stopped watching him at @ week 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Sounds like you stopped watching him at @ week 5 539929[/snapback] Maybe its just me, but I suspect its easier to get JP to throw a five yard out pattern than it will to get Kelly Holcombe to throw a 40 yard pass to Evans. JP will be fine. Our problem on offense is our offensive line, including the tight end position. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluv Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Maybe its just me, but I suspect its easier to get JP to throw a five yard out pattern than it will to get Kelly Holcombe to throw a 40 yard pass to Evans. JP will be fine. Our problem on offense is our offensive line, including the tight end position. Period. 539935[/snapback] At least when faced with a 4th and 8 against the Panthers he threw a 10 yard pass for a first down than Holcomb who on 4th and 9 checked down real quick to a 2 yard pass in the flat showing no guts whatsoever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 The only thing that is needed to "fix" JP is some more seasoning and an O line that can actually do some consistant blocking for the run and the pass.... It really isn't that complicated....which is why I am just at a loss why our team cant seem to put it together....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 i suppose the typical response to that will be, "give willis mcgahee a passing game and he will be a better RB". which is it? Count the men in the box. There's your answer. I know the root of the problem is the offensive line. but provide those guys with a quality offensive line and i think the passing game is still going to suffer due to Losmans complete inability to complete a simple GD Freakin' 5 yard out pattern. 539844[/snapback] I just learned that TD wasn't the guy who pulled the trigger on O'Donnell. He was the guy who decided to show O'Donnell the door so the Steelers could begin the Kordell Stewart era. Later on, TD said that in the judgement of most, there was a big three to the QB position in the 2004 draft. But, in his own opinion, there was a big four in that draft. Does TD have a thing for mobile but inaccurate QBs? Could Losman be our Kordell Stewart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 so i suppose on 3rd and 5 you are going to run the ball or throw a long ball? 539926[/snapback] I know, I know - just a very tired and dejected post on my part. Really, I am just tired of expending my emotions on a hopeless situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeleelop Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 how about playing him this week? wtf is going on with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 I think Jim Kelly learned a lot of mental toughness and how to make quick, instantaneous decisions while playing in the USFL......and he didn't get killed doing it. 539835[/snapback] Actually, Kelly was sacked well over 100 times in his 2 year USFL career and took a hellacious beating. Losman couldn't withstand that, he has the pumped-up weight room physique like RJ, not the natural sturdy frame of guys like Favre, Bledsoe, Kelly or Elway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 He has the physical tools he needs the mental tools. 539835[/snapback] Give JP a running game and I bet he looks like a different QB. Hell give him some coaches that know how to game plan and I bet he looks great! If I had a nickel for every time I heard these phrases about a Buffalo quarterback... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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