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Once a year I don't and one look at the calendar this morning told me I was running out of time.  Had to get it in.

 

Look, you can ignore this or poke fun at it or whatever.  I knew this kind of response was coming the minute I decided to complain about the joke.  I'm just telling you as a friend, in all seriousness, that kind of thing is really getting very tired, very old and a stumbling block to any serious discussion.  Some of you guys might truly just be joking around but after listening to the Coulters and Limbaughs and Hannitys of the world for so long now and hearing the same oh-so-funny shiite here, it becomes pretty clear that it really isn't meant as a joke anymore.  At the very least it is reaching the point that it is not possible to tell the difference anymore.

 

I certainly don't think that any complaint of mine is going to stop the parade of that sort of thing around here and I am not on a crusade to rid the world of fart jokes.  Not every insult is funny and this one, to me anyway, wasn't.  I have as much right to say that here as VA did to post it here in the first place.

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What gets in the way of serious discussion is people like you who continue to ignore the transgressions of big government in favor of some unreachable Utopian "pie in the sky" vision.

 

But we can pretend it's each side calling the other stupid and meaning it. After all, it's WAYYYYYYYYY easier.

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Wow..I guess I'm not a "thinker".  I missed the part in this thread where we talked about "transgressions of big government in favor of some unreachable Utopian "pie in the sky" vision." I thought it was about dummycrats...well...goes to show ya.  0:)

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Well, thinking has never been your internet personality's strongsuit, so at least once you're correct.

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Well, thinking has never been your internet personality's strongsuit, so at least once you're correct.

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I know. I was considering the present situation as more transgressions of big government in favor of some highly placed special interests. Elucidating place this PPP

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What gets in the way of serious discussion is people like you who continue to ignore the transgressions of big government in favor of some unreachable Utopian "pie in the sky" vision.

 

But we can pretend it's each side calling the other stupid and meaning it.  After all, it's WAYYYYYYYYY easier.

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Right AD, your ceasless repetition of "dummycrat" and the like has nothing to do with the difficulty in having reasonable discussions. It enhances the quality of debate 0:) . Tell me again about not sinking to the level of your adversary. Isn't your chief complaint hypocrisy? Interesting given your penchant for personal insults. No one who disagrees with you is ever just simpy wrong, they are also [insert insult here].

 

For example:

 

It couldn't possibly be that I simply think that government, on some limited issues, does a decent job and on other issues, a lousy one. It has to be that I'm a [humorless utopian loving partisan hypocrite]. I could have also included lawyer which is a word you never use except as an insult. You insult me, my party, my profession, etc, etc.

 

Do you think that maybe all those insults have a little to do with how we never have an exchange here anymore that is any more interesting than this one?

 

I think you pat response to that is usually something along the lines of "yes I am rude but your posts are so stupid I can't help it so its your fault".

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Right AD, your ceasless repetition of "dummycrat" and the like has nothing to do with the difficulty in having reasonable discussions.  It enhances the quality of debate 0:)

Sorry, I wasn't trying to raise the level of debate. I figured out awhile ago that isn't possible for those so beholden to ideal rather than reality.

 

Tell me again about not sinking to the level of your adversary.  Isn't your chief complaint hypocrisy?  Interesting given your penchant for personal insults.  No one who disagrees with you is ever just simpy wrong, they are also [insert insult here].

You're not my adversary. You're pretty much a lost cause. That's why I rarely waste the time. Also, my chief complaint isn't hypocrisy. Hypocrisy is simply a symptom of "lemmingism" (for lack of a more intellectual term).

 

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It couldn't possibly be that I simply think that government, on some limited issues, does a decent job and on other issues, a lousy one. 

Yep, all they need is a little more money and a little better prioritization and eventually they'll "fix" everything. Go, go faceless bureaucracy!

 

It has to be that I'm a [humorless utopian loving partisan hypocrite].  I could have also included lawyer which is a word you never use except as an insult.  You insult me, my party, my profession, etc, etc.

Words hurt? Especially when they have basis.

 

Do you think that maybe all those insults have a little to do with how we never have an exchange here anymore that is any more interesting than this one?

You'll excuse me for not wasting the time watching you regurgitate the same tired ideals that have killed every great civilization in recorded history because you can't get past your idealism.

 

I think you pat response to that is usually something along the lines of "yes I am rude but your posts are so stupid I can't help it so its your fault".

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You've always been gifted with the written word. :blink:

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0:)

 

Is there an over/under pertaining to which post any given thread in the PPP turns into the same pointless righty/lefty debate? 

 

I would put that number at roughly 5.5.  It's typically post 5 or 6 where all threads can merge into the same conversation.

 

By the way, has anyone EVER changed their politics because of something somebody they don't even know wrote on an Internet message board?

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Ed. Who used to be a horrrible human being.

 

Now, he's sort of frightening.

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Duhhh, democrats are stupid, duhhh, huhh, duhhhh, yuk, yuk. 

 

You know, my initial post ended with the words "And here is the part where you righties accuse me of not having a sense of humor for not finding mean spirited insults to be very funny."  I deleted that part to give you guys the benefit of the doubt. 

 

I laugh at jokes, at least the good ones.  I don't laugh at insults.  This was both, a joke and an insult.  I think this is the typical insult thinly disguised as a joke, and a bad one at that, which so often makes an appearance here.  It reminds me of the same response I get when I point out the kind of thing Ann Coulter says, you know, "Liberals are traitors who should be shot", etc.  The defense is always, "don't you have a sense of humor?, she was only joking". 

 

You suprised me. Usually, when someone posts something like this, you get your panties in a wad and feel compelled to retaliate with a Republican joke. You know you want to post one. I guess the original post hit a little too close to home for you.

 

 

 

Sorry but after the 10,000th rendition of "dummycrats" and the like, it is clear it is no longer funny nor a joke, it is a purposeful insult.  Its about as funny and original as a polack joke.  Ha-ha.

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Nobody is forcing you to stay here. You can always do what you did last time you got your panties in a bunch: run away and sulk.

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And that relates to china buying us the old fashioned way?  I'm not one of those "thinkers" so I'd appreciate your elucidation.  :blink:

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Elucidation is beyond AD's ken. He focuses on sarcasm and "that makes Democrats different from Republicans how???" type responses. He is, however, the very model of consistency, and he is better at this than Bruce Mathison was at QB'ing the Bills. ;)

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Elucidation is beyond AD's ken.  He focuses on sarcasm and "that makes Democrats different from Republicans how???" type responses.  He is, however, the very model of consistency, and he is better at this than Bruce Mathison was at QB'ing the Bills. ;)

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See Tom's response, one post below yours. Perhaps you people shouldn't make my job so easy. :blink:

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See Tom's response, one post below yours. Perhaps you people shouldn't make my job so easy. ;)

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My post doesn't count, though, because I'm a guy that has stated I knew more than the professors in college so I didn't pursue a Phd. (As person that did pursue a Phd, sucessfully, IowaBill can't begin to tell you how many times he has heard that from people that couldn't hack it). I'm a guy that has stated how smart I am because I've been published in some sort of peer review journal, a guy who spends most of my keystrokes telling everybody how smart I thinks I am. My guess is that my post is completely unreasonable, because a reasonable discussion with me is impossible.

 

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My post doesn't count, though, because I'm a guy that has stated I knew more than the professors in college so I didn't pursue a Phd.  (As person that did pursue a Phd, sucessfully, IowaBill can't begin to tell you how many times he has heard that from people that couldn't hack it).  I'm a guy that has stated how smart I am because I've been published in some sort of peer review journal, a guy who spends most of my keystrokes telling everybody how smart I thinks I am. My guess is that my post is completely unreasonable, because a reasonable discussion with me is impossible.

 

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You know the way you two answer each other's posts for each other is really touching. You guys see Brokeback Mountain yet? ;):doh:

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My post doesn't count, though, because I'm a guy that has stated I knew more than the professors in college so I didn't pursue a Phd.  (As person that did pursue a Phd, sucessfully, IowaBill can't begin to tell you how many times he has heard that from people that couldn't hack it).  I'm a guy that has stated how smart I am because I've been published in some sort of peer review journal, a guy who spends most of my keystrokes telling everybody how smart I thinks I am. My guess is that my post is completely unreasonable, because a reasonable discussion with me is impossible.

 

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I'd go along with all that. Don't forget your fascination with "defense publications porn". Your post does count CTM, although between you and AD, you guys have about 5 -6 "stock responses", so the value of each of those responses tends to diminish as their frequency increases.

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My guess is that my post is completely unreasonable, because a reasonable discussion with me is impossible.

 

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Notice to all:

 

Emotion provoked by reason trumps all discussion.

If the facts you line up are thrown under the jauggernaut

of my passion and intuition, then just step aside there buddies,

your logic will be rendered feeble and bitchslapped by my relentless feelings.

Once all of you are in touch with your feelings too, then we can talk like adults

if that makes me happy.

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Notice to all:

 

Emotion provoked by reason trumps all discussion.

If the facts you line up are thrown under the jauggernaut

of my passion and intuition, then just step aside there buddies,

your logic will be rendered feeble and bitchslapped by my relentless feelings.

Once all of you are in touch with your feelings too, then we can talk like adults

if that makes me happy.

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Is that a haiku?

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I'd go along with all that.  Don't forget your fascination with "defense publications porn".  Your post does count CTM, although between you and AD, you guys have about 5 -6 "stock responses", so the value of each of those responses tends to diminish as their frequency increases.

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I'll try and invent some new ways to call all you partisan lemmings partisan lemmings, because I honestly care so very much about the way I insult you. It's pretty obvious that you actually spend some time struggling with this, so I'M having some effect on YOU. That works for me.

 

Also, the value of your exactly the same responses aren't diminishing their previously off the charts effectiveness. :blink:

 

I'm sorry that pointing out that Bill Clinton and Al Gore openly solicited campaign contributions from the Chinese as not being any different than other politicians (from the supposed "other side" - or not) doing exactly the same thing is such a difficult concept for you and the pseudo-intellectual that is Tenny. Perhaps if each of you ate a little less of the education system's "meat", you'd be able to have some cognitive "pudding".

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