R. Rich Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 I was reading an editorial from the Erie Times ("Garbage Time"). Here's the quote that really stood out for me: If the Jaguars and Bengals stand pat and make the playoffs this year, every team in the NFL (barring the expansion Texans) will have made the playoffs during Donahoe’s tenure in Buffalo. Scary, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typical TBD Guy Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 I was reading an editorial from the Erie Times ("Garbage Time"). Here's the quote that really stood out for me: If the Jaguars and Bengals stand pat and make the playoffs this year, every team in the NFL (barring the expansion Texans) will have made the playoffs during Donahoe’s tenure in Buffalo. Scary, isn't it? 529245[/snapback] Incorrect. He forgot the Saints, Cardinals, Lions, and Redskins (though the Skins could still make the playoffs this year). But yes, the point is still strong - Tom Donahoe is a poor GM and should be fired no later than 3 weeks from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark VI Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Scary, isn't it? 529245[/snapback] We don't need any jerky jerks for fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dib Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 But yes, the point is still strong - Tom Donahoe is a poor GM and should be fired no later than 3 weeks from now. 529252[/snapback] Avoid the rush. Do it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Coli Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Avoid the rush. Do it now. 529256[/snapback] I agree. Why wait? Most GMs are evaluating talent now for the dradft and next year's offseason moves. TD is as good as gone, so why delay the inevitable? Remove him now so he can have his dream job of ESPN analyst, and start the GM search before everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Incorrect. He forgot the Saints, Cardinals, Lions, and Redskins (though the Skins could still make the playoffs this year). But yes, the point is still strong - Tom Donahoe is a poor GM and should be fired no later than 3 weeks from now. 529252[/snapback] I think he meant AFC teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 I think he meant AFC teams. 529263[/snapback] yup, every AFC team will have made the playoffs since '01 save the Bills and Texans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted December 12, 2005 Author Share Posted December 12, 2005 I think he meant AFC teams. 529263[/snapback] Yeah. Still, considering 26 other teams in the league have had a playoff appearance during the Donahoe era, we're in the 18.75% of the league that hasn't. Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kultarr Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Yeah. Still, considering 26 other teams in the league have had a playoff appearance during the Donahoe era, we're in the 18.75% of the league that hasn't. Damn. 529368[/snapback] Damn. That takes talent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted December 12, 2005 Author Share Posted December 12, 2005 Damn. That takes talent! 529388[/snapback] Yup. I've said it before: can the Bills just let us know which year of the Donahoe plan is the year we'll seriously contend for a title? We'll be able to relax then, since we'll know which year will be the target year. Maybe it just takes more than 5 years to rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Damn. That takes talent! 529388[/snapback] We are the Cardinals of the east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven in MD Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 We are the Cardinals of the east. 529391[/snapback] The only other GM who is worse? Matt Millen! And he got an extension too. Hmmm...RW lives in Detroit...Maybe there is a senility club out there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted December 12, 2005 Author Share Posted December 12, 2005 The only other GM who is worse? Matt Millen! And he got an extension too. Hmmm...RW lives in Detroit...Maybe there is a senility club out there! 529463[/snapback] Let's not forget Charlie Casserley in Houston. I think he's done an awful job running that team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven in MD Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Let's not forget Charlie Casserley in Houston. I think he's done an awful job running that team. 529478[/snapback] You are correct...but I thought Houston got a free pass since they were an "expansion" team. Anyway you look at it, the Bills over the last 5 years are in the bottom 5 teams as far as wins and losses go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted December 12, 2005 Author Share Posted December 12, 2005 You are correct...but I thought Houston got a free pass since they were an "expansion" team. Anyway you look at it, the Bills over the last 5 years are in the bottom 5 teams as far as wins and losses go. 529499[/snapback] We're certainly not one of the top franchises, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 You are correct...but I thought Houston got a free pass since they were an "expansion" team. Anyway you look at it, the Bills over the last 5 years are in the bottom 5 teams as far as wins and losses go. 529499[/snapback] Why do they get a pass because they're an expansion team? Last I checked, Jax and Car made the conference finals their second year in the league... CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDG Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 We are the Cardinals of the east. 529391[/snapback] Let's not go over the top here...... in the Donahoe era, the Cardinals have won 26 games. The Bills have won 30. As bad as Donahoe has been, it could have been worse. That's an average of 5-11/6-10 each year vs. an average 6-10/7-9 each year. A small, but meaningful difference. JDG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted December 12, 2005 Author Share Posted December 12, 2005 Why do they get a pass because they're an expansion team? Last I checked, Jax and Car made the conference finals their second year in the league...CW 529509[/snapback] Wow. I knew Jacksonville did a good job of building by getting quality young players (amazing how having a staff that can evaluate talent, like Brunell, can make your team much better, isn't it?), but I forgot about Carolina's ability to put together a team so quickly. Who was the person that led that impressive expansion building effort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDG Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Why do they get a pass because they're an expansion team? Last I checked, Jax and Car made the conference finals their second year in the league...CW 529509[/snapback] After Carolina and Jax, the NFL substantially curtailed the "development assistance" awarded to Cleveland and Houston in comparison to what Carolina and Jax received. JDG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Recent expansion teams have been generously treated in their inaugural year. As mentioned, CAR and JAX did well. HOU did show some promise their 1st and 2nd year. CLE had problems, but did pull off a play-off appearance in the 3rd year of the new franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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