Alaska Darin Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 Who's to say that it did? Maybe you could have achieved more in life had you not been hit. Since you used the term beating I'm assuming we're not talking about a spanking here or there, but actual hitting. I'm not trying to say I'm any kind of super father, far from it, but I haven't been in a situation with my son where I have felt the need to physically punish him and I'm constantly getting comments on how well behaved he is. 522632[/snapback] Then consider yourself lucky. Oh, and assumption is the mother of all fug ups so don't be so literal. Benjamin Spock needed his ass kicked. Period. Our society has all but turned over power to children and its been an absolute failure.
Ghost of BiB Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 What's worse is that those unmannered kids grow up, and don't act much different.
IndyMark Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 No, not all will grow up that way. I was spanked as a kid, and I'm not violent now. Why? Because looking back, whenever I was spanked, I definitely deserved it for what I did. 522805[/snapback] I agree, I was simply generalizing as inaccurately as the one poster that stated if you are NOT spanked you end up being a spoiled brat. I will try to be more overt in my sarcasm.
TheMadCap Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 As most can probably relate, my dad seldom ever had to "spank" me as a child. Once will do, the threat is worse. For me, the most terrifying sound in the world was the sound of a belt being pulled from pant loops...
Alaska Darin Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 For me, the most terrifying sound in the world was the sound of a belt being pulled from pant loops... 522928[/snapback] And that was just Church School, huh?
GoodBye Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 As most can probably relate, my dad seldom ever had to "spank" me as a child. Once will do, the threat is worse. For me, the most terrifying sound in the world was the sound of a belt being pulled from pant loops... 522928[/snapback] The most terrifying sound for us as kids was the sound of the foot rest to my dad's easy chair going down (it made a loud noise, btw) and him coming after you. We always knew we were in trouble if he had to get out of his chair.
Simon Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 Don't go to "family restaurants" if you can't tolerate ill behaved kids. And there'd be the key. If we go to a nice place my children are like a freakin' Rockwell sketch with little if any co-ercion from me. But if we go somewhere casual, all bets are off. They don't whine or complain or leave the table, but I'll be damned if I'm going to be some ogre that doesn't let them have a good time. Hell I'm the one who taught them how to shoot the covers off the straws and make bubbles in their drinks and fling paper pucks with the butter knives. Aside from a fair bit of giggling, they don't bother anybody else in the place. And if the laughter of children bothers you, you can keep your dour ass at home and enjoy your perfectly prepared gourmet meal in the silence you deserve.
Wacka Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 My father spanked us with only one swat for things we deserved. he stopped at about 4 or 5 years old. What scared us was that he would take off his belt , grabbed the ends and snapped it. in his hands. When I was about 11 or so I raised my hand to my mother (never touched her). She told my father and he screamed at me so much that I thought he would have a stroke. As the years have gone by, I have never ever thought of raising my hand to a woman , no matter how much they may have screwed me over. My brother at the same age slapped my mother. She hauled off and socked him in the jaw. When my father came home, she told him she took care of it.
The Dean Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 And there'd be the key.If we go to a nice place my children are like a freakin' Rockwell sketch with little if any co-ercion from me. But if we go somewhere casual, all bets are off. They don't whine or complain or leave the table, but I'll be damned if I'm going to be some ogre that doesn't let them have a good time. Hell I'm the one who taught them how to shoot the covers off the straws and make bubbles in their drinks and fling paper pucks with the butter knives. Aside from a fair bit of giggling, they don't bother anybody else in the place. And if the laughter of children bothers you, you can keep your dour ass at home and enjoy your perfectly prepared gourmet meal in the silence you deserve. 522974[/snapback] I've never understood what's wrong with blowing the covers off straws or blowing bubbles in your drink (leave wise-ass blowing bubbles comments to another thread). That's just FUN! I'm just as bothered with parents disiplining their children about those kind of things as I am with the bad behavior of children. In fact, I'm the guy at the table next to the family playing peek-a-boo with the kids and egging them on a little. But, if you want to eat in peace...go to a better restaurant...or stay home.
Simon Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 In fact, I'm the guy at the table next to the family playing peek-a-boo with the kids and egging them on a little. I do that too. When you get the occasional hairy eyeball from the parents do you just redouble your efforts?-)
Pete Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 Then consider yourself lucky. Oh, and assumption is the mother of all fug ups so don't be so literal. Benjamin Spock needed his ass kicked. Period. Our society has all but turned over power to children and its been an absolute failure. 522818[/snapback] agreed! Funny kids didnt shoot each other when we went to school. Older kids kept younger punks in check back then. Now they call the police if you get in a fight at school. There are now more punks then ever- thanks liberals! Question to the leftists who are ruining school systems now- is Americas future on the up and up? Or is it in decline?
Simon Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 Question to the leftists who are ruining school systems now Actually an incompetent federal government is running school systems now. And you can thank them for a generation of kids who don't/won't know how to learn, adapt, show ingenuity and innovation, or deal with the unexpected. Cya
Pete Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 Actually an incompetent federal government is running school systems now.And you can thank them for a generation of kids who don't/won't know how to learn, adapt, show ingenuity and innovation, or deal with the unexpected. Cya 522990[/snapback] I agree with that too but I also hold the leftist PC accountable for ruining schools too. All that crap "nobody wins- everybody is a winner- competition is bad....etc"....fuggin crap- that is ruining our children. Our schools are a bunch of enablers. Kid cant read- lets promote him. Its not his fault- he must be dsylexic. Kid wont behave in class- lets put him on Ritalin instead of the teacher controlling the class. Its fuggin sickening. Kids have a swift kick of reality kicking them in their naive undereducated asses when they hit the real world! BTW I am not a parent but I work with highschool and college kids. I see and hear everything. Most kids have warped values. I could tell you some storys....
Simon Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 All that crap "nobody wins- everybody is a winner- competition is bad....etc"....fuggin crap- that is ruining our children. The one that kills me is when they keep telling them that they're so "special". Yeah right..... I tell my kids that Mum and Dad are the only ones who think they're special; the rest of the world doesn't give a flying !@#$ at a rolling doughnut about you. As for the stories, my wife's a teacher, I've got a daughter in high school and I'm now a college student. So I've got a pretty fair idea about some of those stories. <shudder>
mcjeff215 Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 I agree with that too but I also hold the leftist PC accountable for ruining schools too. All that crap "nobody wins- everybody is a winner- competition is bad....etc"....fuggin crap- that is ruining our children. Our schools are a bunch of enablers. Kid cant read- lets promote him. Its not his fault- he must be dsylexic. Kid wont behave in class- lets put him on Ritalin instead of the teacher controlling the class. Its fuggin sickening. Kids have a swift kick of reality kicking them in their naive undereducated asses when they hit the real world! BTW I am not a parent but I work with highschool and college kids. I see and hear everything. Most kids have warped values. I could tell you some storys.... 522993[/snapback] Oh let's hear stories! Stories are fun. I too am back in school as is a co-worker of mine. He's in an online class and shares college-age pearls of wisdom spewed forth by his classmates quite a bit. I'll see if I can dig up some of those messages. It's a management class he's in. The short of it? Most of those messages read like so: "I dont thiink u should reprt ur employees cause it will make them mad and if they r mad they wont work very hard and wont get the job done so u shouldnot reprot your employees. everyone should be friends and work together and respect each other and then everyone will do more work" And then at the bottom, and I sh*t you not, this guy actually writes.... so u know: u = you. As far as the parenting thing goes. I have a four year old and the no-kids thing ought to go further than the local deli, if you ask me. First class on airplanes ought to be 21+ as they serve alcohol (there's the excuse, at least). Movie theaters should have 21+ movies available. Hell, online games ought to have 21+ servers. I remember teenagers being much more respectful when I was that age. Hell, I'll call the man filling my gas tank up "sir" if he appears a day older than me. The funny part is my parents didn't beat this stuff into me. These are values I've developed myself. It's a bit disheartening to see the reactions most people give, but that's not the point of being polite to begin with. I am personally embarrassed if my little one acts up. Raising her to be a respectable adult is the most important responsibility I have. I think a lot of other parents see it in a different light. -Jeff
Alaska Darin Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 I think a lot of other parents see it in a different light. -Jeff 523033[/snapback] I'm not so sure that's the case. To be honest I think most see it the way you do but aren't willing to put forth the effort it takes to be a good parent. They're more concerned with being their child's friend. How many times a year did your parents take you out for fast food? How often did you drink pop (soda)? How about preprepared meals? Parenting. It's about time.
mcjeff215 Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 I'm not so sure that's the case. To be honest I think most see it the way you do but aren't willing to put forth the effort it takes to be a good parent. They're more concerned with being their child's friend. How many times a year did your parents take you out for fast food? How often did you drink pop (soda)? How about preprepared meals? Parenting. It's about time. 523039[/snapback] Heh, that could be. We sit down for dinner every night of the week. My wife waits until I get home and then we make dinner. If my daughter eats everything, she gets desert. TV goes off. I personally can't understand why parents *wouldn't* do that. That *is* the parenting they signed up for!! To answer your questions? A) I usually wound up eating food at whatever bar they had brought me along to. B) Whenever I wanted to, it was in the fridge in the garage with the OV. C What?
meazza Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 My father never had to raise a hand. Seriously, he had to yell a few times, but most of the time a stern glare would straighten me out. I'll have to ask him how he perfected that. 522684[/snapback] it's all on intimidation, my dad never hit me either but i'd always listen to him, same goes with my oldest brother, the second he's mad i get scared.
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 Nothing wrong with it. In my travels, I have seen all kinds of signs. One of them, that I recall, said: "All unattended children will be sold to passing pirate ships"... While on a cruise in Newburyport, MA. Usually the messages can be done with humor though! My son is reading, so I make him read the signs aloud... He usually gets a wide-eyed stare and chuckle!
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 Those silly liberals... 522572[/snapback] Hey, I am a "liberal"... And I get in my kids' face if they don't "tow the line." All it takes is that you know where your kid(s) is/are and what they are doing at all times. I am not saying that they are perfect but, I am there at the drop of a dime. Sometimes people come into a situation and tend to judge from afar. Our society loves to pass judgement without actually taking charge. A part of the problem is that stangers can't get innolved anymore. I think that is wrong. If my kid is misbehaving and for some outside chance I don't react... I appreciate stern warnings and reprimands from ANY OUTSIDER... Of course, this doesn't mean physical contact. Too many parents take umbrage to other people scolding their kid(s). The kids pick up on this and know that nobody else is gonna get innolved because the parent will automatically take their side. Now of course, again, I am not talking about PHYSICAL CONTACT and VERBAL ABUSE. That is a whole 'nother ball game... Especially by an outsider.
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