Mikie2times Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 In his first 4 starts JP's line looked like this 45 of 94 47.8% 433 Yards 1 TD 2 INT Since then JP played from the middle of the second quarter on against KC, and started against SD, and Carolina. So for you math majors that’s about 2 1/2 games. During that time his line looks like this 45 of 81 55.5% 502 Yards 3 TD 2 INT Mid 50's completition% is more then ok for a first year guy, and he's starting to pick his yardage totals up as well. No doubt he is making good progress, I just hope he can have a little red zone success to bring into next season. A multi dimensional QB like JP has the ability to make the red zone a strength if he keeps developing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horus Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 that and add losman was only 3 yards short of haveing only the 2nd 200 yard passing game this season and almost 30 yards more than his best game this season vs. houston... to me he seems to be getting better every week...if they dont leave him in for the rest of the year it will kill his developement...imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted November 30, 2005 Author Share Posted November 30, 2005 if they dont leave him in for the rest of the year it will kill his developement...imho 516185[/snapback] At this point the Bills are probably past determining if Holcomb might play. Your first year QB is showing solid improvement and the Bills have pretty much fizzled out of the playoff picture. It's a no brainer at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horus Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 At this point the Bills are probably past determining if Holcomb might play. Your first year QB is showing solid improvement and the Bills have pretty much fizzled out of the playoff picture. It's a no brainer at this point. 516186[/snapback] yea i know but i didnt want to kill MM 2% edge.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Coli Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 No doubt he is making good progress, I just hope he can have a little red zone success to bring into next season. 516183[/snapback] I totally agree with your feelings on JP's progress, and I actually look forward to watching the games each week because of him. I doubt I could say that if we had some other QB in there. How much do you think poor play-calling inside the 20 has had to do with their poor red-zone success? I don't think they have utilized his ability to run yet. There was a blurb on one of the pre-game shows this week, where they were discussing Vick and passing from inside the pocket. The gist of it was, why make him a pocket QB if the guy has another dimension to his game? I understand you'd want JP to get more comfortable passing from the pocket, and getting his game mechanics down, but this O-line blows. Why not turn the kid loose every once in a while? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Also, a good number of his incompletions the last two games have been dropped balls and smart throw-aways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDRupp Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 In his first 4 starts JP's line looked like this 45 of 94 47.8% 433 Yards 1 TD 2 INT Since then JP played from the middle of the second quarter on against KC, and started against SD, and Carolina. So for you math majors that’s about 2 1/2 games. During that time his line looks like this 45 of 81 55.5% 502 Yards 3 TD 2 INT Mid 50's competition% is more then ok for a first year guy, and he's starting to pick his yardage totals up as well. No doubt he is making good progress, I just hope he can have a little red zone success to bring into next season. A multi dimensional QB like JP has the ability to make the red zone a strength if he keeps developing. 516183[/snapback] No doubt he is making progress when you consider he also played against 3 fairly to very weak passing D teams in the first 4 games (Hou, NO, and Atl -not TB) versus pretty overall D's in KC, SD, and Car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 No doubt he is making progress when you consider he also played against 3 fairly to very weak passing D teams in the first 4 games (Hou, NO, and Atl -not TB) versus pretty overall D's in KC, SD, and Car. 516246[/snapback] Actually the Saints and Atlanta are in the top half of the league while KC and SD are in the bottom 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 that and add losman was only 3 yards short of haveing only the 2nd 200 yard passing game this season and almost 30 yards more than his best game this season vs. houston... to me he seems to be getting better every week...if they dont leave him in for the rest of the year it will kill his developement...imho 516185[/snapback] And adding a viable Running Game should help him more with the play action pass... Earlier we used to B word that the Passing game was not helping the Running game....Now, it looks like Mcgahee needs a kick in his butt to get the Run game going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 In his first 4 starts JP's line looked like this 45 of 94 47.8% 433 Yards 1 TD 2 INT Since then JP played from the middle of the second quarter on against KC, and started against SD, and Carolina. So for you math majors that’s about 2 1/2 games. During that time his line looks like this 45 of 81 55.5% 502 Yards 3 TD 2 INT Mid 50's competition% is more then ok for a first year guy, and he's starting to pick his yardage totals up as well. No doubt he is making good progress, I just hope he can have a little red zone success to bring into next season. A multi dimensional QB like JP has the ability to make the red zone a strength if he keeps developing. 516183[/snapback] The fact that people have to constantly defend his performance in his first season on the field shows how much of a first-round bust he is. No one felt compelled to defend Eli Manning his first season, for example... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pope zimli Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I agree. I think he's the guy to go with for the rest of the season. He isn't going to improve sitting on the bench, he's giving it his all, and he improves every game. I think the kid is the major bright spot in a season that SO FAR has been disappointing. Five games to go...let's show the NFL some old fashioned Buffalo Bills football!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 JP looks pretty good (except for that one pass per game that bounces off an opposing LB's chest). 210 total yds vs. Carolina was weak though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 The fact that people have to constantly defend his performance in his first season on the field shows how much of a first-round bust he is. No one felt compelled to defend Eli Manning his first season, for example... 516400[/snapback] I did. Nice rationalization BTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSpeed Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I don't think they have utilized his ability to run yet. The MM is saving his running ability for the playoffs. We still have a shot you know. We wouldn't want to give away our secrete weapon too soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Eli Manning There's your reason. JP's not a "name" guy. Give it time, he will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horus Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 The fact that people have to constantly defend his performance in his first season on the field shows how much of a first-round bust he is. No one felt compelled to defend Eli Manning his first season, for example... 516400[/snapback] most likely noone had to because the giants boards werent trying to get rid of him like some ppl on this board...dont have to defend if noone is going against him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 The fact that people have to constantly defend his performance in his first season on the field shows how much of a first-round bust he is. No one felt compelled to defend Eli Manning his first season, for example... 516400[/snapback] Speaking of Eli, Here's a comparison of his numbers from his first season compared to JP's thus far: G CMP ATT PCT YDS AVG TD LNG INT RAT Eli 9 95 197 48.2 1043 5.3 6 52 9 55.4 JP 7 90 175 51.4 935 5.3 4 42 4 65.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 On offence I think this team is close to being set for the next several years except for the offensive line. The only skill position where Buffalo has a concern is finding a starter at WR to replace the aging Eric Moulds, who has becopme little more than an expensive version of Wayne Chrebet. If Buffalo can get another year or two out of Christ Villarial, they're not that far off on the line either. Gandy is serviceable at left tackle, and might actually be a pretty good left guard, unlike Mike Williams. Preston may turn out to be Teague's replacement. Thus Buffalo may only need to find one starter in the offseason at either guard or left tackle, depending on hour free agency and the draft falls. It would be great comfort to think Losman can be our starter for the next decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Speaking of Eli, Here's a comparison of his numbers from his first season compared to JP's thus far: 516557[/snapback] Exactly...and no one felt compelled to defend Manning for even worse play. Probably because they knew he'd improve. Losman's about as good as he's going to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 On offence I think this team is close to being set for the next several years except for the offensive line. The only skill position where Buffalo has a concern is finding a starter at WR to replace the aging Eric Moulds, who has becopme little more than an expensive version of Wayne Chrebet. If Buffalo can get another year or two out of Christ Villarial, they're not that far off on the line either. Gandy is serviceable at left tackle, and might actually be a pretty good left guard, unlike Mike Williams. Preston may turn out to be Teague's replacement. Thus Buffalo may only need to find one starter in the offseason at either guard or left tackle, depending on hour free agency and the draft falls. It would be great comfort to think Losman can be our starter for the next decade. 516562[/snapback] I'm not quite yet prepared to annoint Parrish as a starting and effective WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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