bills_fan Posted November 29, 2005 Posted November 29, 2005 I usually dislike Sully's articles, believing them to be way over the top and generally a hatchet job. But, today's Sully article simply points out the facts, and they are not good. It was right on the money and at some point this offseason TD is going to have to address his failures with respect to the OL and the lack of playoff appearances.
RVJ Posted November 29, 2005 Posted November 29, 2005 The only way for change is venting. Lets hope someone listens. OK Ralph !!!
Buftex Posted November 29, 2005 Posted November 29, 2005 I usually dislike Sully's articles, believing them to be way over the top and generally a hatchet job. But, today's Sully article simply points out the facts, and they are not good. It was right on the money and at some point this offseason TD is going to have to address his failures with respect to the OL and the lack of playoff appearances. 515364[/snapback] Yeah, only fans are justified in going over the top and giving the Bills the "hatchet job"...the sports editorial writer for the local newspaper has no such right! Basically, all the negative vile that Sullivan spews toward the Bills, is the same things that the fans are saying...we just don't like to see it in print, because that somehow legitimizes our worst fears, that our team does truly suck!
Fan in Chicago Posted November 29, 2005 Posted November 29, 2005 Basically, all the negative vile that Sullivan spews toward the Bills, is the same things that the fans are saying...we just don't like to see it in print, because that somehow legitimizes our worst fears, that our team does truly suck! 515482[/snapback] Well stated !
1billsfan Posted November 29, 2005 Posted November 29, 2005 I usually dislike Sully's articles, believing them to be way over the top and generally a hatchet job. But, today's Sully article simply points out the facts, and they are not good. It was right on the money and at some point this offseason TD is going to have to address his failures with respect to the OL and the lack of playoff appearances. 515364[/snapback] Jerry Sullivan sounded like a nagging mother-in-law in that article. The Bills are a joke...nag nag nag. We have no offensive line nag nag nag. We're tired of losing...nag nag nag. I told you that they'd never amount to anything...nag nag nag. Yes Donahoe screwed up the offensive line, but a lot of this season's woes can be blamed on going with a green QB and the loss of a huge defensive leader in Spikes. Well Sullivan said he supported removing Bledsoe and TD can't do anything about injuries unless he's god. As a beat reporter he really should hedge his bets a bit and wait till the season's over before making such foolish statements. If Losman looks like a real player and team leader by season's end then exactly how stupid does TD look then? Many sane fans had accepted that there would be growing pains with Losman, well there were and our season ended up being lost so that we could get the kid experience. Sullivan's can pout and hold his breath till the cows come home, but this team still has five games left. The more I think about a massive turnover at OBD the more I don't like the idea. To me, a staff turnover means a guaranteed bad 2006 season for the Bills. I now want to see once and forall what TD and MM do now that the QB situation has been solved. Luckily it appears we have a lot of good young players who can really play. Though he has some major faults, I think TD had something to do with them being here.
PJBrown Posted November 29, 2005 Posted November 29, 2005 Jerry Sullivan sounded like a nagging mother-in-law in that article. The Bills are a joke...nag nag nag. We have no offensive line nag nag nag. We're tired of losing...nag nag nag. I told you that they'd never amount to anything...nag nag nag. Yes Donahoe screwed up the offensive line, but a lot of this season's woes can be blamed on going with a green QB and the loss of a huge defensive leader in Spikes. Well Sullivan said he supported removing Bledsoe and TD can't do anything about injuries unless he's god. As a beat reporter he really should hedge his bets a bit and wait till the season's over before making such foolish statements. If Losman looks like a real player and team leader by season's end then exactly how stupid does TD look then? Many sane fans had accepted that there would be growing pains with Losman, well there were and our season ended up being lost so that we could get the kid experience. Sullivan's can pout and hold his breath till the cows come home, but this team still has five games left. The more I think about a massive turnover at OBD the more I don't like the idea. To me, a staff turnover means a guaranteed bad 2006 season for the Bills. I now want to see once and forall what TD and MM do now that the QB situation has been solved. Luckily it appears we have a lot of good young players who can really play. Though he has some major faults, I think TD had something to do with them being here. 515501[/snapback] Thank You! Our record is crap right now but I also do not think we are as bad as some make us out to be. We have a young core, we have had some major injury's (I know, every team does..but Spikes was HUGE for us) and have a young QB getting better each week. I think we upgrade the lines a little and we can be a contender. Also, we have been in the division that has had a 3 time super bowl champ the past 4 years as well. Finally, Sullivan has a right to write whatever he wants and I have a right to ignore him. PERSONALLY, HE SEEMS JUST TO GLEEFUL TO WRITE THESE ARTICLES.
Buftex Posted November 29, 2005 Posted November 29, 2005 As a beat reporter he really should hedge his bets a bit and wait till the season's over before making such foolish statements. If Losman looks like a real player and team leader by season's end then exactly how stupid does TD look then? Many sane fans had accepted that there would be growing pains with Losman, well there were and our season ended up being lost so that we could get the kid experience. Sullivan's can pout and hold his breath till the cows come home, but this team still has five games left. 515501[/snapback] Sullivan, I believe, is not a "beat reporter", but the sports editor. He is paid to write opinions, not necessarily facts...correct me if I am wrong about this, I am sure somebody will...
jester43 Posted November 29, 2005 Posted November 29, 2005 Thank You! Our record is crap right now but I also do not think we are as bad as some make us out to be. We have a young core, we have had some major injury's (I know, every team does..but Spikes was HUGE for us) and have a young QB getting better each week. I think we upgrade the lines a little and we can be a contender. Also, we have been in the division that has had a 3 time super bowl champ the past 4 years as well. Finally, Sullivan has a right to write whatever he wants and I have a right to ignore him. PERSONALLY, HE SEEMS JUST TO GLEEFUL TO WRITE THESE ARTICLES. 515524[/snapback] we also have a sizable core of underachievers with no one on the horizon worthy of replacing them. 5 years into donohoe's tenure, that IS a JOKE.
VABills Posted November 29, 2005 Posted November 29, 2005 Jerry Sullivan sounded like a nagging mother-in-law in that article. The Bills are a joke...nag nag nag. We have no offensive line nag nag nag. We're tired of losing...nag nag nag. I told you that they'd never amount to anything...nag nag nag. Yes Donahoe screwed up the offensive line, but a lot of this season's woes can be blamed on going with a green QB and the loss of a huge defensive leader in Spikes. Well Sullivan said he supported removing Bledsoe and TD can't do anything about injuries unless he's god. As a beat reporter he really should hedge his bets a bit and wait till the season's over before making such foolish statements. If Losman looks like a real player and team leader by season's end then exactly how stupid does TD look then? Many sane fans had accepted that there would be growing pains with Losman, well there were and our season ended up being lost so that we could get the kid experience. Sullivan's can pout and hold his breath till the cows come home, but this team still has five games left. The more I think about a massive turnover at OBD the more I don't like the idea. To me, a staff turnover means a guaranteed bad 2006 season for the Bills. I now want to see once and forall what TD and MM do now that the QB situation has been solved. Luckily it appears we have a lot of good young players who can really play. Though he has some major faults, I think TD had something to do with them being here. 515501[/snapback] Yeah TB did so badly when they changed things up a couple years back. I'll take a Super Bowl win next year.
The Dean Posted November 29, 2005 Posted November 29, 2005 Sullivan, I believe, is not a "beat reporter", but the sports editor. He is paid to write opinions, not necessarily facts...correct me if I am wrong about this, I am sure somebody will... 515538[/snapback] You are correct. Sully is a columnist, not a beat reporter. His is an opinion column...period. Why he insists on writing about a sport he clearly is not comfortable with, is beyond me.
1billsfan Posted November 29, 2005 Posted November 29, 2005 Yeah TB did so badly when they changed things up a couple years back. I'll take a Super Bowl win next year. 515546[/snapback] If you're saying we can dump Malarkey for Gruden then I'm on board for that move. Unfortunately I don't think Gruden will be leaving Tampa for Buffalo.
AJ1 Posted November 29, 2005 Posted November 29, 2005 Jerry Sullivan sounded like a nagging mother-in-law in that article. The Bills are a joke...nag nag nag. We have no offensive line nag nag nag. We're tired of losing...nag nag nag. I told you that they'd never amount to anything...nag nag nag. Yes Donahoe screwed up the offensive line, but a lot of this season's woes can be blamed on going with a green QB and the loss of a huge defensive leader in Spikes. Well Sullivan said he supported removing Bledsoe and TD can't do anything about injuries unless he's god. As a beat reporter he really should hedge his bets a bit and wait till the season's over before making such foolish statements. If Losman looks like a real player and team leader by season's end then exactly how stupid does TD look then? Many sane fans had accepted that there would be growing pains with Losman, well there were and our season ended up being lost so that we could get the kid experience. Sullivan's can pout and hold his breath till the cows come home, but this team still has five games left. The more I think about a massive turnover at OBD the more I don't like the idea. To me, a staff turnover means a guaranteed bad 2006 season for the Bills. I now want to see once and forall what TD and MM do now that the QB situation has been solved. Luckily it appears we have a lot of good young players who can really play. Though he has some major faults, I think TD had something to do with them being here. 515501[/snapback] Let's keep TD and MM. What a pair! They can guarantee 7 - 9 seasons for as far as the eye can see. If woeful mediocrity is all Ralph wants, he's set for life. Why did MM get a 5 year contract? Because TD knew it would take him that long to learn the job. Buffalo Bills: trainers of coaches until they can find a real job elsewhere.
MDH Posted November 29, 2005 Posted November 29, 2005 Basically, all the negative vile that Sullivan spews toward the Bills, is the same things that the fans are saying...we just don't like to see it in print, because that somehow legitimizes our worst fears, that our team does truly suck! 515482[/snapback] It's not that I disagree with the premise of what Sullivan is saying. The thing that gets me is that every single article is about Tom Donahoe and how he sucks and how he needs to leave. Sullivan never writes about anything else. It gets tiresome after awhile. How about talking about Losman and how he looks? Or about Crowell and how he’s filling in for Spikes? Or how about the job MM is doing…or Gray…or Clements? How about writing a few articles that don’t have the basic theme, “TD needs to go!”?
stuckincincy Posted November 29, 2005 Posted November 29, 2005 Jerry Sullivan sounded like a nagging mother-in-law in that article. The Bills are a joke...nag nag nag. We have no offensive line nag nag nag. We're tired of losing...nag nag nag. I told you that they'd never amount to anything...nag nag nag. Yes Donahoe screwed up the offensive line, but a lot of this season's woes can be blamed on going with a green QB and the loss of a huge defensive leader in Spikes. Well Sullivan said he supported removing Bledsoe and TD can't do anything about injuries unless he's god. As a beat reporter he really should hedge his bets a bit and wait till the season's over before making such foolish statements. If Losman looks like a real player and team leader by season's end then exactly how stupid does TD look then? Many sane fans had accepted that there would be growing pains with Losman, well there were and our season ended up being lost so that we could get the kid experience. Sullivan's can pout and hold his breath till the cows come home, but this team still has five games left. The more I think about a massive turnover at OBD the more I don't like the idea. To me, a staff turnover means a guaranteed bad 2006 season for the Bills. I now want to see once and forall what TD and MM do now that the QB situation has been solved. Luckily it appears we have a lot of good young players who can really play. Though he has some major faults, I think TD had something to do with them being here. 515501[/snapback] "The sun'll come out Tomorrow. So ya gotta hang on 'Til tomorrow, Come what may. Tomorrow! Tomorrow! I love ya Tomorrow! You're always, A day, Away! "
1billsfan Posted November 29, 2005 Posted November 29, 2005 "The sun'll come outTomorrow. So ya gotta hang on 'Til tomorrow, Come what may. Tomorrow! Tomorrow! I love ya Tomorrow! You're always, A day, Away! " 515573[/snapback] Fine, go and listen to your nagging mother-in-law then. After all, she does know best (especially after the fact).
Buftex Posted November 29, 2005 Posted November 29, 2005 It's not that I disagree with the premise of what Sullivan is saying. The thing that gets me is that every single article is about Tom Donahoe and how he sucks and how he needs to leave. Sullivan never writes about anything else. It gets tiresome after awhile. How about talking about Losman and how he looks? Or about Crowell and how he’s filling in for Spikes? Or how about the job MM is doing…or Gray…or Clements? How about writing a few articles that don’t have the basic theme, “TD needs to go!”? 515572[/snapback] Just look at this board, as the losses pile up...there are far more posts about how TD fugged up, and how much MM sucks! I rarely see any fans spending much time talking about what a good player Crowell has turned into. If posts like that are started, they are usually sabatoged by "TD sucks" kind of stuff....Sullivan writes about the things that are "hot issues" with Buffalo area sports fans...the beat reporters are the ones who write the fluff pieces...it is just the nature of his job. If most of the material he has to write about is negative, his columns are going to be negative....everyone complains when he writes about the NBA! The Buffalo Bills are still the biggest game in town...and they are not doing so hot, if you hadn't noticed!
VABills Posted November 29, 2005 Posted November 29, 2005 Just look at this board, as the losses pile up...there are far more posts about how TD fugged up, and how much MM sucks! I rarely see any fans spending much time talking about what a good player Crowell has turned into. If posts like that are started, they are usually sabatoged by "TD sucks" kind of stuff....Sullivan writes about the things that are "hot issues" with Buffalo area sports fans...the beat reporters are the ones who write the fluff pieces...it is just the nature of his job. If most of the material he has to write about is negative, his columns are going to be negative....everyone complains when he writes about the NBA! The Buffalo Bills are still the biggest game in town...and they are not doing so hot, if you hadn't noticed! 515611[/snapback] That's because Crowell sucks. One INT, and a couple tackles doesn't make him a good player.
TC in St. Louis Posted November 29, 2005 Posted November 29, 2005 TD has had some bad luck. He tried to prepare for the loss of Pat Williams by betting on Ron Edwards coming to play (he's out for the year) and drafting Tim Anderson. Also, Fat Sam has not played up to his abilities. But the key was losing Spikes. The defense was great last year, and now it's a joke. San Fran paid top dollar for Jonas, and there is no way the Bills could afford to keep him. He thought he addressed the line, and Williams came up lame, and played poorly. Bennie Anderson can't pass block. Parrish missed a lot of games, Everett out for the year. I know injuries are part of the game, but what happened all but eliminated the first 3 rounds of this year's draft. People trash TD for picking Williams, but at the time that looked like a great pick. I personally was against the pick, because I thought they should've traded down....way down....and gotten a few picks for it. At the time, one tackle wasn't going to make that big a difference. Teams that are perennial winners, like the Bills used to be, benefit from picking at the end of the first round. They don't have to pay 10 million dollar bonuses for unproven guys, and you can still get great talent at the end of the round. Look at some of our guys. Henry Jones, John Fina, to name a couple....at the end of the first. Even JP Losman, at #23, and Willis, late first round, moderate signing bonuses and contracts.
Sound_n_Fury Posted November 29, 2005 Posted November 29, 2005 Basically, all the negative vile that Sullivan spews toward the Bills, is the same things that the fans are saying... 515482[/snapback] So which is it: Does Sully blow whichever way the wind does? Or just blow? (Glad we need the media to validate our opinions, BTW...)
Sound_n_Fury Posted November 29, 2005 Posted November 29, 2005 As a beat reporter... 515501[/snapback] Sully's a columnist, not a beat reporter. He'll tell you that every chance he gets, like it elevates him to demigod status. I guess it does actually--he don't have to be factual or even right most of the time...just stir the pot to collect all those quarters for Warren Buffet.
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