WVUFootball29 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 I'm bored so lets take a look at the NFL QB situation for 2006 AFC East: Buffalo: Losman and Holcomb will still be in town. Matthews is probably heading for retirement. 3rd Qb spot will probably be filled either by a veteran free agent to "Mentor" JP, or another project QB. is Rohan Davey a possibility?? Miami:Frerotte has the job, but Rosenfels has looked solid when he's been on the field. Also Gus will be 35 next season. I have a feeling Sage might edge out the vet for the job. New England:Brady will still be the man (I use the term loosely) for the Pats. Cassel should edge Flutie out of the #2 spot with a strong camp and preseason. New York: Need a lot of work. Pennington's status next year is still unclear. Fielder has never been much of a starter. Vinny, is well, Vinny. Bollinger has been disappointing even for a 3rd stringer. With Pennington's future in doubt look for the Jests to make a move either for Rivers for a 1st day QB in the draft AFC North Baltimore: Boller has shown flashes of greatness, overshadowed by constant injuries and poor play. Anthony Wright looked good last year and sub par this year. Boller most likely will get the nod next year, but the Ravens will be actively looking for a better solution somewhere. Cincinnati:Palmer has been great this year and I'm sure he'll be even better next year when his younger receiver mature just a bit more. Wach out for Cincy next year. Kitna??? Will he be trade bait? Cleveland:Dilfer has been average this year. Not great, but not horrible. As this season comes to an end look for Charlie Frye to get some play time. If Frye shows the ability I believe he has, he'll have a chance to take the #1 position next season. Derek Anderson has a lot of potential (scary word) but is going to be the odd man out in Cleveland. Pittsburgh:Roethisberger has a solid lock on this position. If he stays injury free in 06, you will see him in Hawaii. Maddox seems to have run out of luck in Pitt. Batch will probably take over as #2. I'll be suprised if the Tommy Gun makes it past camp next year. AFC South: Houston: David Carr is the Texans highest paid player and a possible free agent next year. with Houston looking like the clear cut #1 pick next year, will the Texans renew his contract or do they Draft Leinhart and attempt to build around him. Banks and Ragone will most likely be back on the Houston bench next season. Indianapolis: No brainer here, Manning has this team right where he wants it. Sorgi is a solid #2 who continues to get better. Tennessee: McNair has the job as long as he wants it, but will the constant nagging injuries force Steve to call it quits? Billy Volek is waiting in the wings and is a capable starter. However he will be 30 next year and is not a long term solution in my opinion. Jacksonville: Leftwich has all the tools and guts to reach the next level as an NFL QB. If wilford and Jones take a step in the right direction this offseason, Byron and the Jags will be a formidible force in the AFC. AFC West: Oakland: Collins has the job on lock but is now on the wrong side of 30. Andrew Walter the number 3 Qb this year will be the man to watch in camp. Great arm and was a solid QB for Arizona State. I believe he'll make a solid push and take over the #2 spot from Marques Tuiasosopo San Diego: After 2 great season Brees will finally go into a training camp next year without much competition. Even though Brees is in a contract year, San Diego isn't going to mess with a proven QB and Rivers will more than likely be dealt away. Let the bidding begin. Denver: Shannahan has finally let Jake Plummer play QB his way and the results speak for themselves. Bradlee Van Pelt is very similar in ability to Plummer and makes a great understudy. Still I wouldnt be suprised to see Denver pick up a more reliable #2 next season. Kansas City: Trent Green is coming to the end of the road. will he retire with Dick Vermeil after this season? Even if he stays, KC has todd (I was a starter at Michigan) collins and damon huard as their backups. Both are over 30 and Green will be 36 next year. KC will take a QB in this draft, did someone say Omar Jacobs? NFC East: Dallas: Drew Bledsoe brought new life to the Dallas offense in 05 and will more than likely improve in 06. Henson and Romo are the 2 back ups to Bledsoe. Will Henson finally grasp the NFL QB position? Either way, I dont see Dallas making any significant changes at this position. Philadelphia: If McNabb returns to camp healthy and ready to play the Eagles will do well next season. This offseason depends on how well Donovan recovers from his injuries, both physical and mental. If he's not showing significant progress, look for Philly to hunt down a solid #2. Otherwise it'll be McMahon and Detmer backing up in 06. New York: Eli Manning has shown he can play with the big boys. A solid off season with his receivers will make for an explosive 06 campaign. Tim Hasselbeck is a decent back up and Jared Lorenzen isn't as horrid as he might seem. I dont see any major moves at this position for the Giants. Washington: Brunell will be 36 next year, Ramsey wants nothing do with this team any more and Jason Campbell is anxious to get some more playing time. Ramsey will be out of Washington this year one way or another. Brunell will most likely get the start for next year,but dont be suprised is Campbell is the #1 by midseason 06. NFC North: Green Bay: Does Brett Favre retire, or does GB convince him to stick it out one more year? One more year behind Brett would be great for Aaron Rodgers, however if Favre hangs em up, it will be between rodgers and Craig Nall for the starting job. Chicago: Grossman will be back next year, but where will he fit in? Kyle Orton has soon that he can play. Not bad for someone who a lot of scouts thought wouldnt amount to anything at the pro level. I have a feeling Orton will beat out Grossman for the job next year. Minnesota: Can Daunte Culpepper comeback from such a devastating knee injury in time for opening day next season? will he even been in Minnesota at the start of next season. Its no secret Dennis Green is big on Daunte and isnt so interested in his current QB's in arizona. Will there be a trade? If Daunte cant go next season, can the 38 year old Brad Johnson stick it out one more year? time will tell, but dont be suprised is Minnesota makes a move for a QB. Detroit: Mariucci isn't exactly thrilled with Joey Harrington, but Jeff Garcia will be 36 next year. Harrington is going to get one more training camp to prove that he is the man for the job. The darkhorse on this team though is rookie Dan Orlovsky from UConn. Orlovsky has a very strong arm. Strong arm + 3 big play receivers is an equation for lots of points. A solid spring from Orlovsky could have him in the hunt for the starting job in 06. NFC South: Atlanta: Michael Vick is the be all end all, just ask him. Not the greatest passer, but he still gets it done one way or another. No contest for the job here. However, Matt Schaub has shown he can play and is in the final year of his rookie contract. there is a slight chance he might get traded for the right price, but with Ty Detmer the only other QB on the roster, I dont see Schaub going anywhere until 07. New Orleans: Aaron Brooks is a very talented and very inconsistent QB. Never the less, unless Adrian McPherson makes gigantic strides this offseason the saints will have no choice but to go with Brooks. Tampa Bay: Griese will be 31, Chris Simms just isnt his father, and La Tech grads McCown and Rattay are much of an improvement. A healthy Griese will get the nod next season, unless one of the others prove they deserve the job more. Carolina: Delhomme will be the starter again next year and rightly so. Weinke is 3 years older than Jake and with 2 fewer years experience. Weinke did show some signs that he can play, but its too little too late at this point. the question here is how much does Stefan LeFors improve this off season and can he unseat Weinke at #2. NFC West: San Francisco: Alex Smith will have one injury riddled season under his belt but should make some strides in the right direction. Ken Dorsey has played suprisingly well so far and will probably be the #2 next season. Cody Pickett is looking at making a change to wide Reciever. San Fran is going to need to bring in a solid back up next year, but dont forget that WR Rasheed Marshall was a pretty good QB at WVU and dont be suprised if he gets some looks in at QB this offseason. Seattle: Matt Hasselbeck has the job underwraps. Behind him sit David Greene and Seneca Wallace. I think the Seahawks are quite content with their current QB situation and I highly doubt any moves at this position. St. Louis: Marc Bulger is the starter, but has been having problems staying healthy. Jamie Martin is getting old and has been less than stellar backing up Bulger. I heard nothing but good things about 3rd stringer Ryan Fitzpatrick from Harvard. With Martin's age I dont see him in the #2 spot in St. Louis next year, but with the strong possibility of Mike Martz leaving the team its highly uncertain what will happen at this position next season. Arizona: kurt warner is getting old, and hurt. Josh McCown has ability, but is terribly inconsistent and John Navarre is the second coming of Todd Collins. I have a feeling that Denny Green is going to push for Daunte Culpepper, especially if he can get him at a discount rate if Culpepper isnt ready at the beginning of next season. Otherwise, Arizona might end up taking a QB in the draft late the 1st day or early the 2nd and keep the rest of the crew around one more year. Well, those are my thoughts, lets hear what you guys and gals think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Is BradLee Van Pelt of Denver related to Alex Van Pelt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 I'm bored so lets take a look at the NFL QB situation for 2006 Kitna??? Will he be trade bait? 509994[/snapback] Good post. Kitna's a free agent next year. I've no idea what their plans are. Former OSU'er and Bear Craig Krenzel is the 3rd qb now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted November 22, 2005 Author Share Posted November 22, 2005 No Bradlee and Alex are not related...I thought that the first time I heard of Bradlee so I checked into it. thanks for reminding me that Kitna is a free agent this year...I couldnt remember if it was after this year or next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 thanks for reminding me that Kitna is a free agent this year...I couldnt remember if it was after this year or next. 510060[/snapback] The Kitna - B'gals relationship is a good one. After his excellent 2003 season, he missed a contract clause worth a million bucks; the B'gals paid him anyway. He graciously stepped aside in '04 for Palmer. Perhaps they will put the transition tag on him like they did with Spikes, in the hope that if they become eligible the following year for a compensatory pick, it might be a better one. Dunno. My guess is that if he wants to stay, they will re-sign him, and if he wants to go, they won't fight it with a bidding war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bflojohn Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 The real questions lie in the trades that are distinctly possible in 2006. First and foremost, I don't think that the Texans are going to dump David Carr. A better offensive line will be the priority! Hence, where does Matt Lienart end up? The package will be steep, but someone will pony up for him! According to Ourlads' November letter, Denver is the only team (right now) with multiple #1's (from Washington). The deal would have to include a future #1 (2007) and players. My best quess is Norm Chow wanting his former protege' in Tennessee! Miami might opt for Rivers, however, I think that they would want someone with starting ability and background. That leads me to believe Saban and crew will trade for Patrick Ramsey. My feeling is that Steve Mariucci has had it with Joey Harrington, and they could be on the lookout for a bonified starter. They, too, could join the Patrick Ramsey sweepstakes! Jon Kitna, if he's the competitor I think he is will probably sign elsewhere in 2006. That someplace else for him might be Arizona or Baltimore. A veteran signal caller in Baltimore might help revitalize that franchise. The same could be said for Arizona ( or in their case- show vital signs!). Cleveland's Romeo Crennel may or may NOT hitch his wagon to Charlie Frye, but to win next year, the possibility is there for Crennel to bring in a veteran other than using Dilfer as he is right now. Matt Schaub is also a young veteran with enough playing time to warrant a look. Many people feel he's ready to run his own show! Veterans like Kyle Boller and Joey Harrington will very likely have to "sit" around as backups in the next year or two and bide their time as someone eventually will take another chance on them down the road. Green Bay is a "wild card" in this equation, since it's somewhat likely that Brett Favre could say goodbye after such a horrendous season. They could bring in a veteran presence too! In my way of thinking, 2006 might end up being one hugely volitile year for NFL Quarterbacks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted November 26, 2005 Author Share Posted November 26, 2005 These QB's are in the final year of their contract this year. Wish I would have found this list prior to posting...could have given a little bit better analysis Pos. Player Team Age QB Tony Banks Texans 32 QB Charlie Batch Steelers 30 QB Drew Brees Chargers 26 QB Todd Collins Chiefs 33 QB Ty Detmer Falcons 37 QB Ken Dorsey 49ers 24 QB Doug Flutie Patriots 42 QB Jeff Garcia Lions 35 QB Shaun Hill Vikings 25 QB Doug Johnson Browns 27 QB Tommy Maddox Steelers 33 QB Jamie Martin Rams 35 QB Shane Matthews Bills 35 QB Josh McCown Cardinals 25 QB Craig Nall Packers 26 QB Sage Rosenfels Dolphins 27 QB Chris Simms Buccaneers 24 QB Kurt Warner Cardinals 33 QB Chris Weinke Panthers 32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted November 26, 2005 Author Share Posted November 26, 2005 Of the QB's listed above, I believe these will hang it up after this season: Pos. Player Team Age QB Tony Banks Texans 32 QB Todd Collins Chiefs 33 QB Ty Detmer Falcons 37 QB Doug Flutie Patriots 42 (Well one can hope at least) QB Jeff Garcia Lions 35 (If not the starter at the end of this season) QB Tommy Maddox Steelers 33 (Will not be resigned by Pitt) QB Jamie Martin Rams 35 QB Shane Matthews Bills 35 QB Chris Weinke Panthers 32 (Not entirely sure on this one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCM Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 Miami:Frerotte has the job, but Rosenfels has looked solid when he's been on the field. Also Gus will be 35 next season. I have a feeling Sage might edge out the vet for the job. You have got to be joking right? Sage looked absolutely awful last week against Cleveland!!!! The Fins are actively scouting every possible QB in the coming draft as well as any possible trade and free agent acquisitions for the QB starting job in 06. I will be shocked if Sage is the #1 QB for the Fins come opening day next year. Frerotte had the edge going into the season because of his knowledge of the OC's (Scott Linehan) system.....IMO, the starting QB for the Fins' 06 squad IS NOT on the current roster....unless Cleo Lemon(currently the #3) gets on the field this year and SHINES..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 Good post. Kitna's a free agent next year. I've no idea what their plans are. Former OSU'er and Bear Craig Krenzel is the 3rd qb now. 510013[/snapback] But he is also 30+....I don't see him moving out of Cinci...unless he is handed a starting job...As time flies, these guys get comfortable at their backup position and I don't see them moving around to get a starting job escpecially on a weak team.... Also, let us speculate where the following QBs are likely to play next year 1. Patrick Ramsey 2. Matt Schaub 3. Philip Rivers I see Miami, Oakland and NYJets making a run for these 3 QBs... Rivers will not come without a 1st round compensation... Schaub and Ramsey might be had for 2nd rounders...though Schaub might be in higher demand than that.... That Billy Volek comment was appropraite...THe guy is 30+....and teams are not going to build around that....THat is why I wish that kid had taken the job with the bills 3 years ago....At least we would have sent Bledsoe packign a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 Of the QB's listed above, I believe these will hang it up after this season:Pos. Player Team Age QB Tony Banks Texans 32 QB Todd Collins Chiefs 33 QB Ty Detmer Falcons 37 QB Doug Flutie Patriots 42 (Well one can hope at least) QB Jeff Garcia Lions 35 (If not the starter at the end of this season) QB Tommy Maddox Steelers 33 (Will not be resigned by Pitt) QB Jamie Martin Rams 35 QB Shane Matthews Bills 35 QB Chris Weinke Panthers 32 (Not entirely sure on this one) 512857[/snapback] I doubt any of them are retiring unless they are CUT by their NFL team and that they don't have another team to latch on to. THey are either 2nd or 3rd string QB and as veterans they all make at lease 800K for the season.....Why would they retire and do what ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finknottle Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 That Billy Volek comment was appropraite...THe guy is 30+....and teams are not going to build around that....THat is why I wish that kid had taken the job with the bills 3 years ago....At least we would have sent Bledsoe packign a year ago. 512888[/snapback] He sounded like the next Rob Johnson to me. I think certain teams have figured out that if you are lucky with gametime appearances you can take a good backup and groom him as first-round tradebait. I wouldn't trade for anybody who wasn't a starter for at least a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 The falcons wont trade Matt Schaub unless vick stops running all over the place and putting himself in danger. Schaub is too valuable to them, and they have gone on record and said they wouldnt get rid of him. Also, you had a good analysis, but why the hate for QB's over 30. Its not a position like RB where they make a down fall. Lots of QB's play deep into their 30's, some rather effectively. Its definitely not unlikely that a 30 or 31 yr old latches on somewhere and pays for 5-6 years at a high level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 I doubt any of them are retiring unless they are CUT by their NFL team and that they don't have another team to latch on to. Did you miss the part about them being in the final year of their contracts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 Is BradLee Van Pelt of Denver related to Alex Van Pelt? 510010[/snapback] you might remember his dad...he played linebacker for the giants and raiders, Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted November 26, 2005 Author Share Posted November 26, 2005 Also, you had a good analysis, but why the hate for QB's over 30. Its not a position like RB where they make a down fall. Lots of QB's play deep into their 30's, some rather effectively. Its definitely not unlikely that a 30 or 31 yr old latches on somewhere and pays for 5-6 years at a high level. 512990[/snapback] its not the hate for the QB's over 30...I respect all those guys professionally. However, take another look at that list and tell me who has done what that will keep them in the league? Wrong side of 30, final year of their contracts. Maybe hang em up wasn't the correct phrase to use there, but I have a hard time believing those guys will be on an NFL roster next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted December 4, 2005 Author Share Posted December 4, 2005 Miami:Frerotte has the job, but Rosenfels has looked solid when he's been on the field. Also Gus will be 35 next season. I have a feeling Sage might edge out the vet for the job.You have got to be joking right? Sage looked absolutely awful last week against Cleveland!!!! The Fins are actively scouting every possible QB in the coming draft as well as any possible trade and free agent acquisitions for the QB starting job in 06. I will be shocked if Sage is the #1 QB for the Fins come opening day next year. Frerotte had the edge going into the season because of his knowledge of the OC's (Scott Linehan) system.....IMO, the starting QB for the Fins' 06 squad IS NOT on the current roster....unless Cleo Lemon(currently the #3) gets on the field this year and SHINES..... 512884[/snapback] Sage looked awful again today didnt he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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