ganesh Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Wilson should can TD The article starts of pretty good discussing the dismal record of TD....All that sounds fine....But the solutions this guy offers stinks..... The guy is effectively comparing Jim Fassel and Brian Billick to football-gods like Gibbs and parcells...... What has Fassel and Billick done with their last teams that is better than what MM or GW have done......Billick won the SB thanks to the team that was already assembled.....He is yet to have a productive season with his offense. Fassel stunk up the joint at the Giants....and is the current OC of the Ravens....I think the Ravens are proabbly worse on offense than us....At least we have a top 5 Running game..... Is that all he could muster as the solution for the bills woes...If we have to go to a Billick or Fassel, If I were RW, I will stick with TD and MM.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipers Hair Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Wilson should can TD The article starts of pretty good discussing the dismal record of TD....All that sounds fine....But the solutions this guy offers stinks..... The guy is effectively comparing Jim Fassel and Brian Billick to football-gods like Gibbs and parcells...... What has Fassel and Billick done with their last teams that is better than what MM or GW have done......Billick won the SB thanks to the team that was already assembled.....He is yet to have a productive season with his offense. Fassel stunk up the joint at the Giants....and is the current OC of the Ravens....I think the Ravens are proabbly worse on offense than us....At least we have a top 5 Running game..... Is that all he could muster as the solution for the bills woes...If we have to go to a Billick or Fassel, If I were RW, I will stick with TD and MM.... 498494[/snapback] Billick or Fassel would be a huge upgrade for this dismal crew we have. Why have the Bills taken all year to realize that Peters is an upgrade at Tackle and Williams is better suited for guard? Hubris - TD took a tackle at 4 over all and that's what we got...until the noose tightened a little that is. Look - while TD is in the wheel house, there is no fear we would get a Billick or Fassel - they're not cut from the puppet cloth our TD loves his coaches to come fron...Maybe he'll approach Hoffner fgor next year...he was too weak to challenge the SUNY establishment on what he needed...would fit great on one bills drive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Little Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 How would Billick or Fassel not be an upgrade? One has won a title and the other has experienced great success as a head coach. Mularkey is a bum, I'd rather have either one of them anyday. You got to be stupid not to see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BackInDaDay Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 My problem with his article is that he thinks the Bills' were run well prior to 10 years ago. Even with the Levy's great teams, the record's not good. Why? Year W L T Finish 2004 09 07 0 3rd 2003 06 10 0 3rd 2002 08 08 0 4th 2001 03 13 0 5th 2000 08 08 0 4th 1999 11 05 0 2nd 1998 10 06 0 3rd 1997 06 10 0 4th 1996 10 06 0 2nd 1995 10 06 0 1st 1994 07 09 0 4th 1993 12 04 0 1st 1992 11 05 0 2nd 1991 13 03 0 1st 1990 13 03 0 1st 1989 09 07 0 1st 1988 12 04 0 1st 1987 07 08 0 4th 1986 04 12 0 4th 1985 02 14 0 5th 1984 02 14 0 5th 1983 08 08 0 2nd 1982 04 05 0 9th 1981 10 06 0 3rd 1980 11 05 0 1st 1979 07 09 0 4th 1978 05 11 0 4th 1977 03 11 0 4th 1976 02 12 0 5th 1975 08 06 0 3rd 1974 09 05 0 2nd 1973 09 05 0 2nd 1972 04 09 1 4th 1971 01 13 0 5th 1970 03 10 1 4th 1969 04 10 0 3rd 1968 01 12 1 5th 1967 04 10 0 3rd 1966 09 04 1 1st 1965 10 03 1 1st 1964 12 02 0 1st 1963 07 06 1 1st 1962 07 06 1 3rd 1961 06 08 0 4th 1960 05 08 1 3rd Totals 322 346 8 Win %: .482 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 My problem with his article is that he thinks the Bills' were run well prior to 10 years ago. Even with the Levy's great teams, the record's not good. Why? Year W L T Finish 2004 09 07 0 3rd 2003 06 10 0 3rd 2002 08 08 0 4th 2001 03 13 0 5th 2000 08 08 0 4th 1999 11 05 0 2nd 1998 10 06 0 3rd 1997 06 10 0 4th 1996 10 06 0 2nd 1995 10 06 0 1st 1994 07 09 0 4th 1993 12 04 0 1st 1992 11 05 0 2nd 1991 13 03 0 1st 1990 13 03 0 1st 1989 09 07 0 1st 1988 12 04 0 1st 1987 07 08 0 4th 1986 04 12 0 4th 1985 02 14 0 5th 1984 02 14 0 5th 1983 08 08 0 2nd 1982 04 05 0 9th 1981 10 06 0 3rd 1980 11 05 0 1st 1979 07 09 0 4th 1978 05 11 0 4th 1977 03 11 0 4th 1976 02 12 0 5th 1975 08 06 0 3rd 1974 09 05 0 2nd 1973 09 05 0 2nd 1972 04 09 1 4th 1971 01 13 0 5th 1970 03 10 1 4th 1969 04 10 0 3rd 1968 01 12 1 5th 1967 04 10 0 3rd 1966 09 04 1 1st 1965 10 03 1 1st 1964 12 02 0 1st 1963 07 06 1 1st 1962 07 06 1 3rd 1961 06 08 0 4th 1960 05 08 1 3rd Totals 322 346 8 Win %: .482 498574[/snapback] That was a lot of work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Note to self.... First time head coaches who end their 1st year of coaching with a winning record are bums and must be replaced by a "name" who has been involved in a superbowl game. By being involved in a superbowl game, this makes them smarter than other coaches. Therefore, in conclusion, only existing coaches who have already attended a superbowl should be considered as head coaches by any team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 How would Billick or Fassel not be an upgrade? One has won a title and the other has experienced great success as a head coach. Mularkey is a bum, I'd rather have either one of them anyday. You got to be stupid not to see that. 498565[/snapback] Fine, I am stupid then. Judging MM on one winning season and one yet to be decided is not fair. Billick had one great year with arguably fantastic talent on the D side. What else has be done to merit greatness ? And Jim Fassel ? Conversely, MM has not done much wrong considering he is in his second year as a head coach. He has shown the guts to make changes and largely tried to balance the lack of talent with creative plays. A little infusion of talent on both sides of the ball will have us as contenders. Grass always looks greener on the other side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Note to self.... First time head coaches who end their 1st year of coaching with a winning record are bums and must be replaced by a "name" who has been involved in a superbowl game. By being involved in a superbowl game, this makes them smarter than other coaches. Therefore, in conclusion, only existing coaches who have already attended a superbowl should be considered as head coaches by any team. 498590[/snapback] Yeah, wake up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BackInDaDay Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 That was a lot of work! 498588[/snapback] You know, before this season I never bothered with crap like this. What did it matter - fan for life, right? It took this year's frustrating start to make me aware that this is nothing new. This is business as usual for Wilson. The exception to the rule is a winning season! It's been this way since the beginning. Small triumphs, minor victories and coming up short is our team's legacy. It is what it is. We should change our logo to a picture of Hedda Nussbaum. BTW - great new '05 Kansas quarters have a lone Buffalo on the prairie. Cool one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 BTW - great new '05 Kansas quarters have a lone Buffalo on the prairie. Cool one. 498612[/snapback] Yeah, I saw it. It has ankles like MW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BackInDaDay Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Yeah, I saw it. It has ankles like MW. 498618[/snapback] I may have to get to a bar to see Big Mike's debut as an OG. This will be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark VI Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 We should change our logo to a picture of Hedda Nussbaum. 498612[/snapback] So Ralph is really Joel Steinberg ? What a sick sense of humor. I love it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 So Ralph is really Joel Steinberg ? What a sick sense of humor. I love it ! 498632[/snapback] Yeah, I was kinda wondering where that came from. I have been depressed about the Bills, but not to this degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark VI Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Yeah, I was kinda wondering where that came from. I have been depressed about the Bills, but not to this degree. 498637[/snapback] Like Hedda, we keep coming back for more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 9, 2005 Author Share Posted November 9, 2005 How would Billick or Fassel not be an upgrade? One has won a title and the other has experienced great success as a head coach. Mularkey is a bum, I'd rather have either one of them anyday. You got to be stupid not to see that. 498565[/snapback] I did not say they were not a upgrade....but the upgrade is not in the same sense when he compares them to coaches whose last names end as Parcells and Gibbss... I would rather get a Steve Mariucci (if he gets let go in Detroit). He may be able to bring up a Losman/McGahee/Evans combination better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cale Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 365football.com doesn't have anything intelligent to say and this writer hasn't been impressing me. Connor Byrne really can't write. I am no pollyanna - but at least Sullivan from the Buffalo News can make valid arguments. Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BackInDaDay Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Like Hedda, we keep coming back for more. 498645[/snapback] C'mon Ralphie boy, use us.... until you use us up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sound_n_Fury Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 You got to be stupid not to see that. 498565[/snapback] 14 posts...and gone to ignore-land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Little Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 I did not say they were not a upgrade....but the upgrade is not in the samesense when he compares them to coaches whose last names end as Parcells and Gibbss... I would rather get a Steve Mariucci (if he gets let go in Detroit). He may be able to bring up a Losman/McGahee/Evans combination better. 498646[/snapback] I don't think he's saying Fassel and Billick are on the same level as Parcells and Gibbs. I think he's saying that Ralph needs to be willing to dish out money to get those kind of people in here. He hasn't done it. We went with 2 bargain assistants as our last coaches and we're 29-43 for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJBrown Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 I believe a fallacy shared by many fans and some press is that we can get any coach or player we want.....fact is not everyone wants to come here (same for any team).....many think this is like a video game where we push the magic buttons and get whatever we want. For the record I think Moo is a good coach who is only going to get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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