Tux of Borg Posted October 23, 2005 Posted October 23, 2005 http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1231684&page=1 Young Singers Spread Racist Hate Duo Considered the Olsen Twins of the White Nationalist Movement Oct. 20, 2005 — - Thirteen-year-old twins Lamb and Lynx Gaede have one album out, another on the way, a music video, and lots of fans. They may remind you another famous pair of singers, the Olsen Twins, and the girls say they like that. But unlike the Olsens, who built a media empire on their fun-loving, squeaky-clean image, Lamb and Lynx are cultivating a much darker personna. They are white nationalists and use their talents to preach a message of hate. Known as "Prussian Blue" -- a nod to their German heritage and bright blue eyes -- the girls from Bakersfield, Calif., have been performing songs about white nationalism before all-white crowds since they were nine. "We're proud of being white, we want to keep being white," said Lynx. "We want our people to stay white ... we don't want to just be, you know, a big muddle. We just want to preserve our race." Lynx and Lamb have been nurtured on racist beliefs since birth by their mother April. "They need to have the background to understand why certain things are happening," said April, a stay-at-home mom who no longer lives with the twins' father. "I'm going to give them, give them my opinion just like any, any parent would." April home-schools the girls, teaching them her own unique perspective on everything from current to historical events. In addition, April's father surrounds the family with symbols of his beliefs -- specifically the Nazi swastika. It appears on his belt buckle, on the side of his pick-up truck and he's even registered it as his cattle brand with the Bureau of Livestock Identification. "Because it's provocative," explains April of the cattle brand, "to him he thinks it's important as a symbol of freedom of speech that he can use it as his cattle brand." Teaching Hate Songs like "Sacrifice" -- a tribute to Nazi Rudolf Hess, Hitler's deputy Fuhrer -- clearly show the effect of the girls' upbringing. The lyrics praise Hess as a "man of peace who wouldn't give up." "It really breaks my heart to see those two girls spewing out that kind of garbage," said Ted Shaw, civil rights advocate and president of the NAACP's Legal Defense Fund -- though Shaw points out that the girls aren't espousing their own opinions but ones they're being taught. On that point, April Gaede and Ted Shaw apparently agree. "Well, all children pretty much espouse their parents' attitudes," she said. "We're white nationalists and of course that's a part of our life and I'm going to share that part of my life with my children." Since they began singing, the girls have become such a force in the white nationalist movement, that David Duke -- the former presidential candidate, one-time Ku-Klux-Klan grand wizard and outspoken white supremacist -- uses the twins to draw a crowd. Prussian Blue supporter Erich Gliebe, operator of one of the nation's most notorious hate music labels, Resistance Records, hopes younger performers like Lynx and Lamb will help expand the base of the White Nationalist cause. "Eleven and 12 years old," he said, "I think that's the perfect age to start grooming kids and instill in them a strong racial identity." Gliebe, who targets young, mainstream white rockers at music festivals like this past summer's "Ozzfest," says he uses music to get his message out. But with names like Blue-Eyed Devils and Angry Aryans, these tunes are far more extreme than the ones sung by Lamb and Lynx. "We give them a CD, we give them something as simple as a stick, they can go to our Web site and see other music and download some of our music," said Gliebe. "To me, that's the best propaganda tool for our youth." A Taste for Hate Gliebe says he hopes that as younger racist listeners mature, so will their tastes for harder, angrier music like that of Shawn Sugg of Max Resist. One of Sugg's songs is a fantasy piece about a possible future racial war that goes: "Let the cities burn, let the streets run red, if you ain't white you'll be dead." "I'd like to compare it to gangsta rap," explained Sugg, "where they glorify, you know, shooting n****** and pimping whores." Sugg shrugs off criticism that music like his should not be handed out to schoolyard children, arguing that "it's just music, it's not like you're handing out AK-47s." Perhaps not, but Shaw says it's the ideas in the music that are dangerous. "When you talk about people being dead if they're not white," said Shaw, "I don't think there is much question that that is hateful." A Place to Call Home Despite the success of Prussian Blue and bands like Max Resist within the White Nationalism movement, most Americans don't accept their racist message. Like many children across the country, Lamb and Lynx decided to help the victims of Hurricane Katrina -- the white ones. The girls' donations were handed out by a White Nationalist organization who also left a pamphlet promoting their group and beliefs -- some of the intended recipients were more than a little displeased. After a day of trying, the supplies ended up with few takers, dumped at a local shop that sells Confederate memorabilia. Last month, the girls were scheduled to perform at the local county fair in their hometown. But when some people in the community protested, Prussian Blue was removed from the line-up. But even before that, April had decided that Bakersfield was not "white" enough, so she sold her home, and hopes that she and the girls can find an all-white community in the Pacific Northwest. Girls' pic... Way to exploit your 13 year old daughers.
Johnny Coli Posted October 23, 2005 Posted October 23, 2005 Girl's pic... Way to exploit your 13 year old daughers. 483216[/snapback] Five years is a long time to wait for the "Blacks on Blondes" spread.
Talonz Posted October 23, 2005 Posted October 23, 2005 I guess there is hate on all sides of the races eh? Listen to hip hop lately?
UConn James Posted October 23, 2005 Posted October 23, 2005 Why is it that most of these stories of hate and intolerance is perpetuated by the phrase "home-schooled"? "We want to keep being white"???? What !@#$ color are you in danger of changing to?
Ghost of BiB Posted October 23, 2005 Posted October 23, 2005 Why is it that most of these stories of hate and intolerance is perpetuated by the phrase "home-schooled"? "We want to keep being white"???? What !@#$ color are you in danger of changing to? 483313[/snapback] After witnessing that abortion of a football game, I'm tempted to say paper bag brown.
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted October 24, 2005 Posted October 24, 2005 "We're proud of being white, we want to keep being white," said Lynx. "We want our people to stay white ... we don't want to just be, you know, a big muddle. We just want to preserve our race." Replace "white" with "black", and I heard almost exactly that at the Million More (or Less) March last weekend. Why is that okay for everyone but caucasians to say? Oh, yeah...it's called a double-standard. As though any of us are of any sort of "pure" race anyway...
Talonz Posted October 24, 2005 Posted October 24, 2005 Replace "white" with "black", and I heard almost exactly that at the Million More (or Less) March last weekend. Why is that okay for everyone but caucasians to say? Oh, yeah...it's called a double-standard. As though any of us are of any sort of "pure" race anyway... 483915[/snapback] Thank you...
Pete Posted October 24, 2005 Posted October 24, 2005 Replace "white" with "black", and I heard almost exactly that at the Million More (or Less) March last weekend. Why is that okay for everyone but caucasians to say? Oh, yeah...it's called a double-standard. As though any of us are of any sort of "pure" race anyway... 483915[/snapback] The purest race on the planet would have to be North Korea
/dev/null Posted October 24, 2005 Posted October 24, 2005 The purest race on the planet would have to be North Korea 483961[/snapback] shh, don't ret fearres reader hear that or he may ban TSW in norf korea
Ghost of BiB Posted October 24, 2005 Posted October 24, 2005 shh, don't ret fearres reader hear that or he may ban TSW in norf korea 483988[/snapback] Norf?
KD in CA Posted October 24, 2005 Posted October 24, 2005 This picture is awesome. 483937[/snapback] Are those little smiley face Hitlers on the shirts? That shouldn't be funny....but it is!
buckeyemike Posted October 24, 2005 Posted October 24, 2005 Racism is a real problem, alive and well, in this country. These two girls are simply spouting what they have been taught by their ugly white-supremacist parents. And this is coming from a conservative Republican with heavily libertarian leanings. This is symptomatic of a much larger problem in our society. Take the drug laws, for example. No one can tell me that severe penalties for lesser quantities of crack cocaine vs. powdered cocaine (at least in Ohio) is not racist, at least subliminally. No one will ever admit it today, but an argument can certainly be made that the drug laws as written are aimed toward prosecuting more blacks than whites. From these laws to "white flight" to being scared to walk down the street to Bob Jones University (and even to hip-hop music that denigrates whites), racism exists and is still being taught, even in 21st Century America. I'm not of the Rodney King "can't we just all get along" mentality, but we have our heads in the sand if we think all is well between races. We need to help each other and get over the differences between skin color. I subscribe to the P.J. O'Rourke theory on race, "Why hate someone based on the color of their skin, when you can get to know them, and find so many other things to hate about them." God created us, black and white, in His image. It's time to start acting like it. OK. I'll get down from the soapbox now. Mike
SilverNRed Posted October 24, 2005 Posted October 24, 2005 Are those little smiley face Hitlers on the shirts? That shouldn't be funny....but it is! 484015[/snapback] Yes, those are smiley face Hitlers and, yes, that is why it's so funny.
/dev/null Posted October 24, 2005 Posted October 24, 2005 This picture is awesome. 483937[/snapback] does this qualify as JBotD? JailBait of the Day
Ghost of BiB Posted October 24, 2005 Posted October 24, 2005 does this qualify as JBotD?JailBait of the Day 484026[/snapback] Works for me.
mcjeff215 Posted October 24, 2005 Posted October 24, 2005 Racism is a real problem, alive and well, in this country. These two girls are simply spouting what they have been taught by their ugly white-supremacist parents. And this is coming from a conservative Republican with heavily libertarian leanings. This is symptomatic of a much larger problem in our society. Take the drug laws, for example. No one can tell me that severe penalties for lesser quantities of crack cocaine vs. powdered cocaine (at least in Ohio) is not racist, at least subliminally. No one will ever admit it today, but an argument can certainly be made that the drug laws as written are aimed toward prosecuting more blacks than whites. From these laws to "white flight" to being scared to walk down the street to Bob Jones University (and even to hip-hop music that denigrates whites), racism exists and is still being taught, even in 21st Century America. I'm not of the Rodney King "can't we just all get along" mentality, but we have our heads in the sand if we think all is well between races. We need to help each other and get over the differences between skin color. I subscribe to the P.J. O'Rourke theory on race, "Why hate someone based on the color of their skin, when you can get to know them, and find so many other things to hate about them." God created us, black and white, in His image. It's time to start acting like it. OK. I'll get down from the soapbox now. Mike 484023[/snapback] I fully disagree with respect to the laws - I believe that people look for reasons to cry race. This is just an example of that. Crack penalties are harsh. Crack is an inner-city drug. Inner-city populations are largely black. Put all of that together and churn on it, we must be sub-conciously creating harsher penalties for blacks. In my personal opinion, skin-color isn't the real issue with most of the "race pimps" out there, it's economic divide. Sure, you've got these idiots, but I believe the vast majority of people confuse the two. -Jeff
Just Jack Posted October 24, 2005 Posted October 24, 2005 Girls' pic... Way to exploit your 13 year old daughers. 483216[/snapback] Here's the "color" version.
KD in CA Posted October 24, 2005 Posted October 24, 2005 does this qualify as JBotD?JailBait of the Day 484026[/snapback] Where's the countdown clock?
UConn James Posted October 24, 2005 Posted October 24, 2005 Oh, yeah...it's called a double-standard. As though any of us are of any sort of "pure" race anyway... 483915[/snapback] Ever read "The Seven Daughters of Eve" by Brian Sykes? I challenge these girls and anybody else who thinks they're racially "pure" to a DNA test. There's a lot of people who would be absolutely shocked to see exactly what percentage of "black" or "white" genetic makeup they have. "We are all a complete mixture."
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