AKC Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 This just in, Kelly Holcomb is a better QB than Tom Brady. Fact: Kelly Holcomb is 2-0 this year without a dominating D Fact: Tom Brady is 3-3 this year without a dominating D Conclusion: Holcomb is (obviously) the better QB. 479728[/snapback] We all must draw our own conclusions when faced with facts, I've prvoded the facts and now you've offered your conclusion- I'll respect your opinion that Holcomb is better then Brady but I'd find that difficult to support myself.
Hollywood Donahoe Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 The promise of the young is that they might some day become amusing. Don't care much for being reminded of your own ridiculousness, eh?
AKC Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 Now if you are serious about comparing him to Peyton Manning, his numbers are 3/17, 79 yards, 3 TD, 2 INT, for a rating of 46.45. 479751[/snapback] You appear to be the one stuck on Peyton Manning- his name has hardly been mentioned in the string since he plays in a much different offense that relies on the real threat he poses in throwing the ball long. If you'd like to see why that's a threat you might consider his career stats on the deep ball.
AKC Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 You must not be wearing any pants while you're typing this because I can see your nuts. 479688[/snapback] Seek comfort in the rythmic sound of my "facts" slapping your chin.
Dan Gross Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 You appear to be the one stuck on Peyton Manning- his name has hardly been mentioned in the string since he plays in a much different offense that relies on the real threat he poses in throwing the ball long. If you'd like to see why that's a threat you might consider his career stats on the deep ball. 479757[/snapback] I'm not stuck, he's the only example of a current QB you gave that is better all-around QB than Tom Brady because of his long-ball throwing. You still, as usual, dodged the actual point about your QB ratings numbers appear to be wrong, and that they are actually reasonable (and far from being the worst in the league....). So we know that Peyton didn't have to throw the "long ball" the last couple years as much because he had a reputation , what have you to say about the discrepency in the QB rating?
taterhill Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 You must not be wearing any pants while you're typing this because I can see your nuts. 479688[/snapback]
Hollywood Donahoe Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 I'm not stuck, he's the only example of a current QB you gave that is better all-around QB than Tom Brady because of his long-ball throwing. You still, as usual, dodged the actual point about your QB ratings numbers appear to be wrong, and that they are actually reasonable (and far from being the worst in the league....). So we know that Peyton didn't have to throw the "long ball" the last couple years as much because he had a reputation , what have you to say about the discrepency in the QB rating? I hope you're not going to actually wait for a straight answer. Expect something along the lines of "I understand the game of football - you don't." AKC is too football what Tom Cruise is to psychology - an amateur posing as a professional.
taterhill Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 I'm not stuck, he's the only example of a current QB you gave that is better all-around QB than Tom Brady because of his long-ball throwing. You still, as usual, dodged the actual point about your QB ratings numbers appear to be wrong, and that they are actually reasonable (and far from being the worst in the league....). So we know that Peyton didn't have to throw the "long ball" the last couple years as much because he had a reputation , what have you to say about the discrepency in the QB rating? 479769[/snapback] i hope you realize that he will reply and argue his point...no matter how ridiculous...FOREVER
AKC Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 So we know that Peyton didn't have to throw the "long ball" the last couple years as much because he had a reputation , what have you to say about the discrepency in the QB rating? 479769[/snapback] I say any QB who gets the benefit of seeing almost no coverage on top and still can hit only 25% of his deep balls is a laughable excuse of a deep ball passer. But if you find his company pleasant don't let me dissuade you from a sleepover.
Hollywood Donahoe Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 I say any QB who gets the benefit of seeing almost no coverage on top and still can hit only 25% of his deep balls is a laughable excuse of a deep ball passer. But if you find his company pleasant don't let me dissuade you from a sleepover. Care to provide any evidence whatsoever that Brady sees "almost no coverage over the top?"
AKC Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 I hope you're not going to actually wait for a straight answer. Expect something along the lines of "I understand the game of football - you don't." AKC is too football what Tom Cruise is to psychology - an amateur posing as a professional. 479774[/snapback] You should try and rely on the research of Bill's fans since you haven't shown the first sign of stringing together any coherent logic of your own!
AKC Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 Care to provide any evidence whatsoever that Brady sees "almost no coverage over the top?" 479781[/snapback] That's right, you're too busy watching the QB to notice nobody gives safety help on top when Mudslide is playing.
drnykterstein Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 We need a forum entitled "AKC and Hollywood Donahoe argue about Tom Brady" its would be a very entertaining forum and fill up with thousands of posts in only a matter of days.
gomper Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 Being a huge Montana fan this idea of Brady as the best I've ever seen started to nag at me at the end of the '03 season. But he is. His is amazingly accurate, clutch, and does all the little things exceptionally. His play action and ability to set up the perfect screen throw is unmatched. Sure he has great coaching but no coach can prepare you to make clutch play after play when the outcome hangs in the balance. One game with the chips on the table, Brady is the man. Nobody is better when the pressure is on.....certainly not Manning. Oh yeah....he's as tough as they come too. Even being a Bills fan, this kid is a pleasure to watch and could quite possibly have 5 SB titles before he's done.
drnykterstein Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 Being a huge Montana fan this idea of Brady as the best I've ever seen started to nag at me at the end of the '03 season. But he is. His is amazingly accurate, clutch, and does all the little things exceptionally. His play action and ability to set up the perfect screen throw is unmatched. Sure he has great coaching but no coach can prepare you to make clutch play after play when the outcome hangs in the balance. One game with the chips on the table, Brady is the man. Nobody is better when the pressure is on.....certainly not Manning. Oh yeah....he's as tough as they come too. Even being a Bills fan, this kid is a pleasure to watch and could quite possibly have 5 SB titles before he's done. 479789[/snapback] I'll bet you he never wins another one again.
Hollywood Donahoe Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 That's right, you're too busy watching the QB to notice nobody gives safety help on top when Mudslide is playing. Standard television broadcasts typically don't give the viewer a good look at the safeties or where they're playing. So to make this claim, I assume you've somehow managed to gain access to the Patriots' game film. I'll be waiting on that analysis of safety coverage versus Brady. Go check your game films.
Ghost of BiB Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 AKC...get a grip, calm down, have a drink or whatever. It's a game, it's not our life - unless you are on the payroll. Put things in perspective. Think soft music, candles, slim toned warm inviting female thighs and soft, warm lush lips with bedroom eyes. If you still want to concentrate on Brady...well, maybe you do have an issue. It's only football.
todd Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 Why is it so hard for many to realize that Brady is a great QB? He's not the greatest ever, but who cares? He's a fantastic player. He's the best player on an offense that won the SB 3x. That's pretty damn good, folks.
AKC Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 Standard television broadcasts typically don't give the viewer a good look at the safeties or where they're playing. So to make this claim, I assume you've somehow managed to gain access to the Patriots' game film. I'll be waiting on that analysis of safety coverage versus Brady. Go check your game films. 479799[/snapback] You need to get out a little more. Playbook on NFL Network and 10 other shows give you additonal film angles plus on long balls you almost always get views that give up the defensive positions. You can watch what happens, or you can see what you want to see. Bradiots choose the latter, try the former if you'd like to learn something.
drnykterstein Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 Why is it so hard for many to realize that Brady is a great QB? He's not the greatest ever, but who cares? He's a fantastic player. He's the best player on an offense that won the SB 3x. That's pretty damn good, folks. 479804[/snapback] The thread title says "Tom Brady ... might be the best ever" That pisses me and probably a lot of other people off since we all know he does not deserve to be in the same thought as the class of best ever QB's. We never said he wasnt good, but read the thread title.
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