Amazing item on conserving fuel

[spidey]

So Bush is asking all americans to help out by limiting our driving and buying of gasoline, telling govt workers to avoid unnecessary travel and he is off making his 7th visit to Gulf region to show he cares and is helping out.

 

Wonder how much fuel is used for AF1, Marine 1, support aircraft, all those armored cars etc. I think its time that George show leadership like other presidents and families did during times of war/disaster etc. and show how he is conserving energy in limiting travel, conserving fuel in whitehouse etc.

[KRC]

So Bush is asking all americans to help out by limiting our driving and buying of gasoline, telling govt workers to avoid unnecessary travel and he is off making his 7th visit to Gulf region to show he cares and is helping out. 

 

Wonder how much fuel is used for AF1, Marine 1, support aircraft, all those armored cars etc.    I think its time that George show leadership like other presidents and families did during times of war/disaster etc. and show how he is conserving energy in limiting travel, conserving fuel in whitehouse etc.

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It is amazing. The lefties B word that he is not connected enough with the situation, then B word that he is trying to connect with the situation. It is no wonder you continue to lose elections.

[Bob Lablaw]

Former White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer, May 2001

 

"President Bush would not urge Americans to conserve. That's a big no. The president believes that it's [American's high energy usage] an American way of life, and that it should be the goal of policy-makers to protect the American way of life. The American way of life is a blessed one."

[philburger1]

Former White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer, May 2001

 

"President Bush would not urge Americans to conserve. That's a big no. The president believes that it's [American's high energy usage] an American way of life, and that it should be the goal of policy-makers to protect the American way of life. The American way of life is a blessed one."

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wasn't that way before two big hurricanes in the gulf?

[Bob Lablaw]

wasn't that way before two big hurricanes in the gulf?

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Yes. Once we're back to pre-hurricane oil production capacity, we're OKed to return to our previous ways.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Yes. Once we're back to pre-hurricane oil production capacity, we're OKed to return to our previous ways.

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As it should be.

 

Don't like it? Change your own personal behavior. Don't expect the rest of America to follow suit, though.

 

I for one purchased a 4-cylinder last year.

[RuntheDamnBall]

As it should be.

 

Don't like it? Change your own personal behavior. Don't expect the rest of America to follow suit, though.

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Are you saying this because it's a good thing, or bad?

 

This is the disconnect for me with some of the attitudes of the right. I am all for an era of personal responsibility. But when it comes to actually asking people to be responsible, especially when it concerns the environment, energy, wastefulness, there is a total 180 because it interferes with a capitalist ideal that was never written into the constitution to begin with.

 

I'm not saying that capitalism is a bad thing. I'm saying that capitalism at all costs is pretty much equivalent to unmeasured greed, which I'm also saying is at odds with the idea of being responsible.

 

We want people to be responsible, but to keep the economy booming credit card companies, loan providers, auto manufacturers [i'm isolating these here, but obviously it's in no way limited to these industries] need to prey on people's desires to be irresponsible. Or at least that's the way it's been put. My point is, the government is subsidizing all kinds of business as it is. Why not make those subsidies and incentives contingent on promoting real responsibility, whether environmental, economic, or social?

 

This is the kind of responsibility I'm looking for. And it's awfully hard to watch and listen to government officials to point fingers and talk about responsibility when they're often the least responsible citizens in the nation, and through their actions they encourage unfettered irresponsibility. And that goes for both sides.

[Mickey]

It is amazing. The lefties B word that he is not connected enough with the situation, then B word that he is trying to connect with the situation. It is no wonder you continue to lose elections.

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I think that concluding that he did not do diddly in the beginning and now is grandstanding to make up for that initial failure is a perfectly consistent position to take. It may not be one with which you agree but it is not inconsistent. In fact, going from the sublime to the ridiculous as he has done is a good indication that yes, he was AWOL on the issue from the git go which is precisely why he needs to go so overboard now.

 

Methinks he doth protest his concern too much.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Are you saying this because it's a good thing, or bad?

 

This is the disconnect for me with some of the attitudes of the right.  I am all for an era of personal responsibility.  But when it comes to actually asking people to be responsible, especially when it concerns the environment, energy, wastefulness, there is a total 180 because it interferes with a capitalist ideal that was never written into the constitution to begin with. 

 

I'm not saying that capitalism is a bad thing.  I'm saying that capitalism at all costs is pretty much equivalent to unmeasured greed, which I'm also saying is at odds with the idea of being responsible.

 

We want people to be responsible, but to keep the economy booming credit card companies, loan providers, auto manufacturers [i'm isolating these here, but obviously it's in no way limited to these industries] need to prey on people's desires to be irresponsible.  Or at least that's the way it's been put.  My point is, the government is subsidizing all kinds of business as it is.  Why not make those subsidies and incentives contingent on promoting real responsibility, whether environmental, economic, or social?

 

This is the kind of responsibility I'm looking for.  And it's awfully hard to watch and listen to government officials to point fingers and talk about responsibility when they're often the least responsible citizens in the nation, and through their actions they encourage unfettered irresponsibility.  And that goes for both sides.

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The reason the free market is the best solution to problems is that the free market encourages innovation.

 

Not enough energy? The guy that sells energy-efficient things will make a mint. Glut of energy? The guy that sells the gas-hog makes a mint.

 

Any time you try to inject the government into the free market, disastrous consequences await. My own personal feeling is that it's wasteful to drive any vehicle with more than 4 cylinders unless you really need it. I also limit my car trips as much as possible for my own fiscal sanity, and have been for several years now.

 

I've also become a big backer of what my father used to do....that being follow the members of my family around, turning off lights.

 

But the best part of this whole scenario is, I'm doing it of my own volition. No one is forcing me to via incentives or taxes. I make the choice on what is right for me.

[Chef Jim]

I think that concluding that he did not do diddly in the beginning

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How do you know that? Where you there 24/7, peek in on his daily planner. That's YOUR opinion. You have know idea what he was doing, what meetings he attended, what calls he made. Very convenient assumtion there Mick for your arguement.

[Cheeseburger_in_paradise]

It is amazing. The lefties B word that he is not connected enough with the situation, then B word that he is trying to connect with the situation. It is no wonder you continue to lose elections.

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And then B word because he and his oil buddies are getting rich off the high price of oil, and then B word because he is encouraging conservation. Wonder how many domestic airline flights there are each day in the US alone, maybe a thousand?

[gmac17]

Hey Bob Lablaw, that's a great quote from Ari...problem is, he didn't say it. If you are going to use these guys "...." I suggest you use them around things people actually said.

 

 

Q: ...does the President believe we need to correct our lifestyles to address the energy problem?

 

A: That's a big no.  The President believes that it's an American way of life, and that it should be the goal of policy makers to protect the American way of life.  The American way of life is a blessed one.  And we have a bounty of resources in this country.  What we need to do is make certain that we're able to get those resources in an efficient way, in a way that also emphasizes protecting the environment and conservation, into the hands of consumers so they can make the choices that they want to make as they live their lives day to day.

[Ghost of BiB]

I thought we had agreed to toss cats into the converter?

[ExiledInIllinois]

Does that mean at work I can't leave my tractor idling during lunch? Can't wait till wintertime comes and they pitch a fit that our compressors at work (to keep the bubblers going) are running too long... I am just gonna let the gates freeze in.

 

All the hot air coming out of the administration should be enough to keep us from springing for a new set of glow plugs.

 

Didn't Jimmy Carter get roasted for telling us to conserve?

 

[ExiledInIllinois]

It is amazing. The lefties B word that he is not connected enough with the situation, then B word that he is trying to connect with the situation. It is no wonder you continue to lose elections.

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He is not connecting... If terror is such a problem and needs to be wiped out, we should be throttling our economy back like we did during WWII. Put it into full military mode. A town like Buffalo would soar again!

 

He is sending us mixed messages.

 

Telling us to shop till we drop... Yet, conserve?

 

??

[ExiledInIllinois]

As it should be.

 

Don't like it? Change your own personal behavior. Don't expect the rest of America to follow suit, though.

 

I for one purchased a 4-cylinder last year.

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Force people to conserve... Go socialist on their arses. We need to win the war on terror?

 

So during WWII we all did it on our "own?"

 

I wonder what would have happened if we had a conservative in office during the 1940's?

 

We surely would have been pushing and pulling the cart.

 

 

Hmmmmmm?

[Mickey]

How do you know that?  Where you there 24/7, peek in on his daily planner.  That's YOUR opinion.  You have know idea what he was doing, what meetings he attended, what calls he made.  Very convenient assumtion there Mick for your arguement.

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If you read the post, all of it, I clearly indicated that it was just that, an opinion. The point I was making is that there is nothing inconsistent with the logic that he was awol early and is grandstanding now to make up for it. KRC wrote a post that in his opinion the left was inconsistent for complaining that he was too uninvolved to start with and also that he is too involved now.

 

If your standard for being critical of the President is first hand observation of his every move, then none of us can ever be critical of any President or, hysterically supportive of him no matter what he does for that matter. I look forward to your criticism of all other posters here who are supportive or critical of him based on anything other than first hand observation.

 

Bush's actions and movements, or lack thereof, and the performance of FEMA under his handpicked and fired head, Michael Brown as well as that of local officials has been well documented, this is old territory at this stage.

[RkFast]

If you read the post, all of it, I clearly indicated that it was just that, an opinion.  The point I was making is that there is nothing inconsistent with the logic that he was awol early and is grandstanding now to make up for it.  KRC wrote a post that in his opinion the left was inconsistent for complaining that he was too uninvolved to start with and also that he is too involved now.

 

If your standard for being critical of the President is first hand observation of his every move, then none of us can ever be critical of any President or, hysterically supportive of him no matter what he does for that matter.  I look forward to your criticism of all other posters here who are supportive or critical of him based on anything other than first hand observation.

 

Bush's actions and movements, or lack thereof, and the performance of FEMA under his handpicked and fired head, Michael Brown as well as that of local officials has been well documented, this is old territory at this stage.

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bull sh--.

 

Ray Nagin's gross incompetency and corruption has gone by barely without mention and his actions have barely been documented. Meanwhile, the ENTIRE blame for the event's handling has gone to the Feds and the "Bush Bad" crowd has gone down again, this time with GWB getting bad press for..get this....going to NO "too much."

[smokinandjokin]

It is amazing. The lefties B word that he is not connected enough with the situation, then B word that he is trying to connect with the situation. It is no wonder you continue to lose elections.

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Yawn.

 

Might as well make this your signature and just hit enter every time because it's all you ever write.

[KRC]

...because it's all you ever write.

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...because it continues to be true.