Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 as per another message board-Mike Francesca from Mike and the Maddog radio show on WFAN in NY said that the Cowboys contacted the 49ers about Jamie Winborn but were told that the Bills were close to acquiring him and were rebuffed. 458739[/snapback] Damn, you TD! You SUCK! </sarcasm> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdubs Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Who do you think is going to the 49ers? I hope it's not a draft pick. We need all of those. Also where did you hear this? Mike and the Mad Dog don't come on till later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 If it is true, at least this proves they aren't willing to flush the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 If it is true, at least this proves the aren't willing to flush the season. 458770[/snapback] Only YOU and morons like YOU think the bills are trying to flush the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Only YOU and morons like YOU think the bills are trying to flush the season. 458771[/snapback] No. Only people who think that JP should stay in regardless of how craptacular he plays would think that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Lionel Gates is the person I would bet heading west. Maybe one of the TE's as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerjamhead Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Antonio Gates is the person I would bet heading west. Maybe one of the TE's as well. 458803[/snapback] This board will go nuts if the Bills trade away Antonio Gates... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 This board will go nuts if the Bills trade away Antonio Gates... 458809[/snapback] Exactly. First we'd have to give up an arm and a leg to get him in a trade from the Chargers, and then immediately TD, since he is the worst GM in the league, would turn around and trade Antonio Gates for Jamie Winborn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 This board will go nuts if the Bills trade away Antonio Gates... 458809[/snapback] Look at what SF needs. They need a backup for Barlow and a oft injured Gore. Gates would give them the insurance they need. Their TE Bajerna or something like that doesn't have a catch yet. Also I could see a WR getting packaged as well now that I look at it. Maybe Aiken, or God forbid our best receiver Reed, is Roscoe is ready. Although in my opinion sending Reed west would be a bad move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Exactly. First we'd have to give up an arm and a leg to get him in a trade from the Chargers, and then immediately TD, since he is the worst GM in the league, would turn around and trade Antonio Gates for Jamie Winborn. 458821[/snapback] Sorry Lionel Gates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Sorry Lionel Gates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Sorry Lionel Gates. 458827[/snapback] You could probably get him for a #5 pick, or maybe a #4. We already have an extra #3. From what I know of Winborn, which isn't really all that much, a team would be pretty happy with that kind of athlete and play out of their #5 pick, and he'd be coming into his prime. I don't know why the retard rodeo isn't all over this guy, I mean he made 104 tackles when only starting 10 games, he must be awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 You could probably get him for a #5 pick, or maybe a #4. We already have an extra #3. From what I know of Winborn, which isn't really all that much, a team would be pretty happy with that kind of athlete and play out of their #5 pick, and he'd be coming into his prime. I don't know why the retard rodeo isn't all over this guy, I mean he made 104 tackles when only starting 10 games, he must be awesome! 458836[/snapback] But do we want to give up the picks. Afterall we have 2 DT's , and the entire oline to draft next year. Except we'll probably draft 5 more WR' that are 5'7" and weigh 95 pounds with pads on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gross Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 You could probably get him for a #5 pick, or maybe a #4. We already have an extra #3. From what I know of Winborn, which isn't really all that much, a team would be pretty happy with that kind of athlete and play out of their #5 pick, and he'd be coming into his prime. I don't know why the retard rodeo isn't all over this guy, I mean he made 104 tackles when only starting 10 games, he must be awesome! 458836[/snapback] Problem is the rodeo hadn't heard of him before the trade rumors started... Maybe a straight up player trade for Losman? San Fran could probably use a #3 QB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfladave Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Lionel Gates is the person I would bet heading west. Maybe one of the TE's as well. 458803[/snapback] Gates is a could be a good bet in this scenario. He performed well through most of the preseason and has since been delegated to 3rd string. However if McGahee should get hurt this year it would only leave us with Williams. That reason alone could be a deal breaker. Unless Everett is about to come back we do not have the depth at TE to move anyone off our roster. I would not be surprised to see someone like George Wilson or Aiken go, packaged with a 4th or 5th round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Is this guy any good? I looked up his stats but I know they do not convey much. How would a trade sending Josh Reed over there sound ? I know this board will go ballistic on that idea but considering we are getting Parrish (unproven) back, SF does not have much of a receiving corps and that we really need some LB depth, this may not be too far fetched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 But do we want to give up the picks. Afterall we have 2 DT's , and the entire oline to draft next year. Except we'll probably draft 5 more WR' that are 5'7" and weigh 95 pounds with pads on. 458842[/snapback] Well, if you think you're going to get a big stud talented sure thing DT in round five then no. Frankly, I like this Gates guy as a back-up to Willis. I may trade Josh Reed for Winborn but I'd like to have Parrish back first. I think Aiken stinks. I think because we have that extra pick that this is the way to go. The reasoning being that you know what kind of player Winborn is. With Posey going into his last year (next year) and TKO coming off an achilles heel injury, you're probably going to have to look for the draft to get a LB. If during the draft, you're in the fifth round, and suddenly jamie Winborn the three year vet is there, you're going to spend all your post draft press conferences gushing about what a steal that was. And it will likely show on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Well, if you think you're going to get a big stud talented sure thing DT in round five then no. Frankly, I like this Gates guy as a back-up to Willis. I may trade Josh Reed for Winborn but I'd like to have Parrish back first. I think Aiken stinks. I think because we have that extra pick that this is the way to go. The reasoning being that you know what kind of player Winborn is. With Posey going into his last year (next year) and TKO coming off an achilles heel injury, you're probably going to have to look for the draft to get a LB. If during the draft, you're in the fifth round, and suddenly jamie Winborn the three year vet is there, you're going to spend all your post draft press conferences gushing about what a steal that was. And it will likely show on the field. 458856[/snapback] I've seen SF play, but don't remember Winborn. They have a decent Dline, but seem to have a poor defense overall which either means their dline is over rated or their LBers suck. I am betting on the later of the two. In addition they play a 3-4 so he might be a Posey type. So how does that help replace a Spikes type? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark VI Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Well, if you think you're going to get a big stud talented sure thing DT in round five then no. Frankly, I like this Gates guy as a back-up to Willis. I may trade Josh Reed for Winborn but I'd like to have Parrish back first. I think Aiken stinks. I think because we have that extra pick that this is the way to go. The reasoning being that you know what kind of player Winborn is. With Posey going into his last year (next year) and TKO coming off an achilles heel injury, you're probably going to have to look for the draft to get a LB. If during the draft, you're in the fifth round, and suddenly jamie Winborn the three year vet is there, you're going to spend all your post draft press conferences gushing about what a steal that was. And it will likely show on the field. 458856[/snapback] You are wise. He's basically an unknown to us but the football people obviously see some talent in addition to being a low risk gamble. It's probably a low round draft pick for his services. It's also TD looking a year ahead, knowing Spikes returning to his previous form isn't a sure thing. Don't forget, we may receive a comp pick or two for losing Jennings and Pat Williams, in addition to the extra 3rd rounder for Henry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 If it is true, at least this proves they aren't willing to flush the season. 458770[/snapback] Wait - you actually thought that the Bills were going to flush the season after 3 games? You actually thought that flushing the season was an option considered by the Bills' admin? Please tell me that's not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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