nick in* england Posted September 28, 2005 Posted September 28, 2005 We are the 7th ranked D in the NFL. Lowest Passing YPG, only 50PA and 2nd overall in the AFC. Our O on the other had..... 31st - ahead of Houston.
Ray Posted September 28, 2005 Posted September 28, 2005 Can't stop the run---that is the biggest problem with this team right now. I don't care about the overall rank--we are last or second to last in the whole NFL against the run. Run and stop the run! We can do the one on offense. I do agree JP has looked abysmal but the D was awful Sunday.
Mark VI Posted September 28, 2005 Posted September 28, 2005 The Defense is dead last in the NFL in rushing yardage allowed. Draft another TE, TD.
VABills Posted September 28, 2005 Posted September 28, 2005 The Defense is dead last in the NFL in rushing yardage allowed. Draft another TE, TD. 457606[/snapback] Exactly. Teams that are last in defense typically are the ones that either defense the run well or are just plain bad against the pass. We only look good because it is difficult to run up enough yards on the ground against a defense to have them be "too bad" on paper. The tell tale sign is the last against the run. Teams don't have to pass and run up the yards that way.
stuckincincy Posted September 28, 2005 Posted September 28, 2005 Exactly. Teams that are last in defense typically are the ones that either defense the run well or are just plain bad against the pass. We only look good because it is difficult to run up enough yards on the ground against a defense to have them be "too bad" on paper. The tell tale sign is the last against the run. Teams don't have to pass and run up the yards that way. 457610[/snapback] As the Bengals wandered in the desert for over a decade, they were fond of saying one year they were strong against the run, and the following year they were good in stopping the pass. It was another way of saying that one year, opposing teams could sign Ray Charles or Jose Feliciano and hit 'em for big ones over the middle - and the following year send Grandma Moses off-tackle, confident she would run for daylight.
VABills Posted September 28, 2005 Posted September 28, 2005 As the Bengals wandered in the desert for over a decade, they were fond of saying one year they were strong against the run, and the following year they were good in stopping the pass. It was another way of saying that one year, opposing teams could sign Ray Charles or Jose Feliciano and hit 'em for big ones over the middle - and the following year send Grandma Moses off-tackle, confident she would run for daylight. 457624[/snapback] Kind of. Go back to our Super Bowl years. I am not sure we were ever ranked in the top 15 defenses in the league. That was because we didn't have the best corners or safeties and therefore somewhat easy to throw against us. But run defense we were pretty solid by then, including Bruce who had struggled earlier on in his career. But in addition out offense scored so quickly and so much that teams had to air it out more to play catch-up. Kind of like Indy as well. Their defense probably wasn't as bad as the stats showed, but this year they are also probably all of a sudden not as good either. The truth lies somewhere in between.
DeeRay Posted September 28, 2005 Posted September 28, 2005 The Defense is dead last in the NFL in rushing yardage allowed. No wonder we're ranked high in pass defense then... why would a team want to pass when all you have to do is hand the ball off and run through the matador defense.
ganesh Posted September 28, 2005 Posted September 28, 2005 We are the 7th ranked D in the NFL. Lowest Passing YPG, only 50PA and 2nd overall in the AFC. Our O on the other had..... 31st - ahead of Houston. 457602[/snapback] How about the Run Defense....Probably 31st or 32nd.....
stuckincincy Posted September 28, 2005 Posted September 28, 2005 No wonder we're ranked high in pass defense then... why would a team want to pass when all you have to do is hand the ball off and run through the matador defense. 457637[/snapback] Yes - that was the point of my little story about the Bengals, above.
dave mcbride Posted September 28, 2005 Posted September 28, 2005 We are the 7th ranked D in the NFL. Lowest Passing YPG, only 50PA and 2nd overall in the AFC. Our O on the other had..... 31st - ahead of Houston. 457602[/snapback] bear in mind that our defensive stats are totally inflated by the houston game, in which the texans barely gained 100 total yards.
Typical TBD Guy Posted September 28, 2005 Posted September 28, 2005 bear in mind that our defensive stats are totally inflated by the houston game, in which the texans barely gained 100 total yards. 457708[/snapback] ...or totally deflated by the tb and atlanta games
BB2004 Posted September 28, 2005 Posted September 28, 2005 Can't stop the run---that is the biggest problem with this team right now. I don't care about the overall rank--we are last or second to last in the whole NFL against the run. Run and stop the run! We can do the one on offense. I do agree JP has looked abysmal but the D was awful Sunday. 457605[/snapback] Stopping the run is definitely the problem, something we were strong at last year. It's time for Tim Anderson to get a look in the starting lineup.
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