"Peters"

[TigerJ]

The Houston Texan that tried to block him on that KO return bounced about 6 feet the other way. The same effect may have been produced if the guy had tried to block a Hummer.

[CentralVaBills]

It's all supposed to be taken within context.  I don't think anyone ever claimed he had sprinter's speed.  Just that for his size, he's very fast and agile.

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No way. Everything everyone wrote about Peters was way out of context. So, I purposely focused on the guy almost every play I could find him in the game.

 

And just like I thought, he's not really that fast. He's also not this super agile athlete everyone makes him out to be. As a matter of fact, because a lack of agility, I can see why he's probably not a TE. I definately could see him running very sloppy pass routes. I still think though, with the TE's that we have, he would be a better fit than our current TE's.

 

However, when he gets himself moving on special teams, he is a force, and routinely runs over, and through people. He is also doing this against guys about 2/3 of his size too. Now, I gotta see him making tackles. I'm not sure he's doing that yet, or if he's just running down there and blowing up people in front of him.

 

He is though, making plays. Last years blocked punt/td, and the TD catch Sunday. His catch, as far as I could tell, was a tad bit athletic. And that, you can't fault.

 

That being said, you gotta love the big fella, although he's far from the Deion Sanders, Bo Jackson, Tony Boselli, Ozzie Newsome, Steve Tasker combination player everyone claims he is.

[erynthered]

Are you trying to say he didn't cure cancer during halftime this week?  Man, now I gotta go find another favorite player...I'm threw[sic] with this looser[sic]!

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There's only one way I make a decision like that though. Only If I have High School football coaching experince. No way otherwise.

[MadBuffaloDisease]

No way.  Everything everyone wrote about Peters was way out of context.

I'd like to see some quotes. Again in the context of a 327# guy, he's fast and agile. But in comparison to guys with 4.4 speed running like a bat out of hell on ST's, he's slow. And yes I DO love him, in a manly way of course.

[CentralVaBills]

There's only one way I make a decision like that though. Only If I have High School football coaching experince. No way otherwise.

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At least I'm out there. Can't say the same for most of you guys. But hey, anytime you can swarm with a good quip or two in sentence form, more power to you. Legends in your own type!

 

1-0 49-0 On the way to the state championship.

 

At least I'm out there.

 

[CentralVaBills]

I'd like to see some quotes.  Again in the context of a 327# guy, he's fast and agile.  But in comparison to guys with 4.4 speed running like a bat out of hell on ST's, he's slow.  And yes I DO love him, in a manly way of course.

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I hear ya MBD.....and what you say makes sense......but there was alot of Peters garbage on the board that just didn't add up.

 

I see your man love. Here's hoping he can actually become something at wherever he ends up.

[erynthered]

At least I'm out there.  Can't say the same for most of you guys.  But hey, anytime you can swarm with a good quip or two in sentence form, more power to you.  Legends in your own type!

 

1-0    49-0    On the way to the state championship.

 

At least I'm out there.

 

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Relax Brad Riter

 

 

Glad to see you participate, a lot of folks wont do what you do. You reference your High School coaching as often as I scratch my ass. Are you really that good?

 

Maybe you need to go into NFL Coaching?

[Simon]

he's not nearly as fast as everyone makes him out to be. As a matter of fact, he's usually the last one down on kickoff coverage........Now, I gotta see him making tackles. I'm not sure he's doing that yet, or if he's just running down there and blowing up people in front of him.

 

For somebody who was actually at teh game you seem to have missed quite a bit. Aside from the one play where you noticed him tossing somebody from the return team about 6yrds through the air, he was also down very quickly covering another kick and making the tackle himself and on yet another kick was down there early derstroying the return team's blocking scheme and forcing the ballcarrier out of his lane and directly into a teammate (Coy Wire I think?) for another short return.

 

But feel free to continue making up complete crap like you often do (i.e. "he's far from the Deion Sanders, Bo Jackson, Tony Boselli, Ozzie Newsome, Steve Tasker combination player everyone claims he is"). You're the only one who's actually buying it.

[jarthur31]

Well, Peters lovers rejoice, he actually made an impact.  I was at the game, and it looked like Peters made a heckuva catch.  Nice.  So, he does have some hands.

 

Also, I don't think he is as stupid as most people make him out to be.  He was interviewed on some local TV after the game and seemed, relatively, like a pretty good speaker.

 

Lastly, the good and bad together......he's not nearly as fast as everyone makes him out to be.  As a matter of fact, he's usually the last one down on kickoff coverage.  HOWEVER.....on the kickoff after his touchdown catch, he absolutely OBLITERATED the poor Texan who got in his way.  Here comes big #71 gliding down the field, and just plowed over some Texan in his way.  He didn't come anywhere near the tackle, however, the play wasn't quite in his lane.  He is pretty good at busting up wedges should one happen to form in his path.  Also, he looks so damn intimidating out there on the kickoff team.

 

He's also not an unblockable demon on special teams punts and stuff, but the guy really does things well for a big guy.

 

While I don't understand how he isn't good enough to play TE on a team with bad TE's.....I will say this......our TE's were open and getting separation all day, which is promising.  Peters, I think could add to that TE combo, but I guess he's gonna be a lineman.  However, don't think now that Peters caught a pass that teams won't be watching him to catch another one. 

 

Lastly, I don't know why Peters is being so looked at as a T, when I think he'd be a great D'Lineman.  But, here's hoping that Peters the Myth continues to make strides toward a starting spot somewhere in the near future.

 

He does do some good things out there.

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Again I bring you this (I forgot to include the date, my bad):

 

Rookie blocks punt, scores TD

 

By Len Pasquarelli, ESPN.com

 

 

CINCINNATI -- He is about the most unlikely-looking special teams player in the NFL, a 6-feet-4 and 328-pound behemoth who caught the attention of league scouts at the annual combine workouts, clocking an eye-opening 40-yard time of under five seconds.

 

Fact is, Buffalo Bills rookie Jason Peters doesn't even have a real position yet, and no one seems to know when he will. Listed as a tight end, his long-term future might well be at offensive tackle, given his size and quick feet. For now, though, Peters, activated from the practice squad last month, is basically a special teams player.

 

And for now, acknowledged Peters, who had one of the game-altering plays in Sunday's 33-17 victory over the Cincinnati Bengals, that is plenty.

 

"As long as I'm helping out in some way, as long as people feel like I belong, that's good enough for me," said Peters, who blocked a first-quarter Cincinnati punt, then chased the ball into the end zone, where he fell on it for his first NFL touchdown. "I'm just here to do what they tell me to do and to try to find my place."

 

Finding a place on any NFL team's kickoff coverage and punt return units would be difficult for a player of Peters' physical dimensions. Getting playing time for Buffalo special teams coach Bobby April, one of the league's premier kicking games mentors, is doubly daunting. But in the four games in which Peters has been active, he has been able to make things happen.

 

The Bills special teams have already tied a league record for most kick returns (five) for touchdowns in a season. Kickoff return specialist Terrence McGee, with three scores and a likely spot on the AFC Pro Bowl squad, is an emerging star. Punter Brian Moorman is superb as is coverage man Coy Wire.

 

And now the special teams, and April, have uncovered another (albeit unlikely) threat.

 

Until the Buffalo offensive staff finds a home for Peters, with a decision not likely until the mini-camp sessions next spring, April is more than happy to provide him work. The former University of Arkansas tight end, who went undrafted despite his mind-boggling combine performance and signed with Buffalo as a college free agent, is a physical freak.

 

Guys his size aren't supposed to move so quickly, to have this kind of flexibility, to be running down under kickoffs as a wedge-buster. But after watching Peters in practice, April knew he could blend him into the special teams mix if coach Mike Mularkey ever decided to move the rookie to the active roster.

 

"We would use him against our own people in practice and, I'll tell you what, he just wore them out," said April. "We put him in the middle and our deep snapper hated to work against him. He'd go down and collapse the 'wedge' on kickoffs, I mean taking on three or four guys. He's big, he's tough, he's kind of an aberration. But, hey, he's our aberration, and I love it."

 

Peters is also, apparently, a quick study, as evidenced by Sunday's blocked punt.

 

April didn't necessarily do anything special in preparing for Cincinnati punter Kyle Larson. It wasn't as if there was some tell-tale videotape tipoff that suggested Buffalo might be able to get to Larson who, April conceded, doesn't not have a particularly slow get-off time on his kicks. Instead, the blocked punt came primarily because Peters made an adjustment.

 

 

Jason Peters, middle, is surrounded by teammates after scoring his first TD.

On the first Cincinnati punt of the game, Peters attempted to get into the backfield with a bull-rush technique, and was stymied. On the second, he opted for a "swim" move, a technique more often associated with pass-rushers, and slipped inside the block. Once into the backfield, he laid out his body, extended his right hand, and made contact, with the ball careening back into the Cincinnati end zone.

 

Peters out-raced several teammates to pounce on the ball for the score.

 

"What I liked," said April, "was that he was textbook in everything he did. A lot of guys will break through and won't lay out or extend their body. You've got to lay out and try to pick a spot where you'll intersect with the ball and that's what Jason did. It was a great play, really, and it demonstrated just how athletic the guy is."

 

Then again, special teams are characteristically filled with excellent athletes, all over the league. What sets Peters apart is his enormous size and the physical torque he generates when he gets all 328 pounds moving with such velocity. At least twice on Sunday, it was obvious that Cincinnati blockers on kickoffs wanted nothing to do with him.

 

"The first time guys see me running down under a kick, I'm sure they're thinking that it's some kind of mistake," said Peters, who has five special teams tackles in five games. "You can kind of see their eyes get big. I don't think they really want a piece of me when I'm rolling at full speed."

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/stor..._len&id=1949716

[CentralVaBills]

For somebody who was actually at teh game you seem to have missed quite a bit. Aside from the one play where you noticed him tossing somebody from the return team about 6yrds through the air, he was also down very quickly covering another kick and making the tackle himself and on yet another kick was down there early derstroying the return team's blocking scheme and forcing the ballcarrier out of his lane and directly into a teammate (Coy Wire I think?) for another short return.

 

But feel free to continue making up complete crap like you often do (i.e. "he's far from the Deion Sanders, Bo Jackson, Tony Boselli, Ozzie Newsome, Steve Tasker combination player everyone claims he is"). You're the only one who's actually buying it.

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Aside from the homer type stuff that you almost always post. You would swear that by reading your posts, time after time, that the Bills were in the playoffs the last five years in a row. Aside from your lineman post, which was the first time I actually saw you view something somewhat objective (great post).

 

Again, this guy does everything......he's just that special.....but yet, I still haven't heard a credible reason on why he doesn't start somewhere. Peters is pretty good on the kickoff coverage team. I already said that.....at least by calling out all of the super-homer comments that most of you make about him, we are now getting objective viewpoints of him.

 

Again, when the homers don't like something said about a Bill, they resort to calling stuff negative or stupid. I'm just asking for a credible reason, why this "destoyer" isn't somewhere on the field for a non-playoff team.

 

It's amazing that the Peters myth isn't seen by other teams. But, he's this good, yet teams still run right at him I guess. This explaining the play where you say he destroyed the teams blocking scheme moving the runner out of his lane right to Coy. Or, yet, him making all these solo tackles on the kick coverage. You would think coaches would have seen all of this happen and run away from his side. But, all of the NFL staffs are stupid I guess, unless they are on the Bills sideline.

 

So, OK, whatever you say. That being said, he should almost be a lock for the special teamer in the pro bowl this year.

 

He's ok. I'm not saying he's bad. But he doesn't do have the stuff everyone here thinks he does.

 

I mean, common sense says that if Peters is running full steam at a special teams guy who weighs 80 lbs less than he does.....that he is going to run him over. And, as awesome as that was to watch........it had ZERO effect on that runback. None. Peters blew up a guy who was setting up to make a block and had no momentum. What the hell do you think is gonna happen in that situation?

 

He was also the LAST guy down the field on that particular return. I know that for a fact.

 

Don't take it so hard man. I know the lovefest that alot of posters have for their Bills players. More power to you......I also know what I saw. And I made it a point to look for it.

 

Doesn't mean I don't enjoy him as much as the other 75,000 I sat with. Just means I see things a little bit different. I'm pretty sure the coaches do too, that's why he's on the bench for most of the game. Doesn't mean he always will be his whole career, just means that he has a long way to go. I didn't see him on all of the kickoffs, but I know for a fact that on a few of them, he was no where near making a tackle, and was the last one down the field. He also has a job to do in his "lane" if you will. However, he's a notch or two below Stamer on this same special teams unit. But I guess Stamer doesn't look as "cool" and athletic as Peters does. Stamer kinda has that Bruschi type label I guess.

[CentralVaBills]

Again I bring you this (I forgot to include the date, my bad):

 

Rookie blocks punt, scores TD

 

By Len Pasquarelli, ESPN.com

CINCINNATI -- He is about the most unlikely-looking special teams player in the NFL, a 6-feet-4 and 328-pound behemoth who caught the attention of league scouts at the annual combine workouts, clocking an eye-opening 40-yard time of under five seconds.

 

Fact is, Buffalo Bills rookie Jason Peters doesn't even have a real position yet, and no one seems to know when he will. Listed as a tight end, his long-term future might well be at offensive tackle, given his size and quick feet. For now, though, Peters, activated from the practice squad last month, is basically a special teams player.

 

And for now, acknowledged Peters, who had one of the game-altering plays in Sunday's 33-17 victory over the Cincinnati Bengals, that is plenty.

 

"As long as I'm helping out in some way, as long as people feel like I belong, that's good enough for me," said Peters, who blocked a first-quarter Cincinnati punt, then chased the ball into the end zone, where he fell on it for his first NFL touchdown. "I'm just here to do what they tell me to do and to try to find my place."

 

Finding a place on any NFL team's kickoff coverage and punt return units would be difficult for a player of Peters' physical dimensions. Getting playing time for Buffalo special teams coach Bobby April, one of the league's premier kicking games mentors, is doubly daunting. But in the four games in which Peters has been active, he has been able to make things happen.

 

The Bills special teams have already tied a league record for most kick returns (five) for touchdowns in a season. Kickoff return specialist Terrence McGee, with three scores and a likely spot on the AFC Pro Bowl squad, is an emerging star. Punter Brian Moorman is superb as is coverage man Coy Wire.

 

And now the special teams, and April, have uncovered another (albeit unlikely) threat.

 

Until the Buffalo offensive staff finds a home for Peters, with a decision not likely until the mini-camp sessions next spring, April is more than happy to provide him work. The former University of Arkansas tight end, who went undrafted despite his mind-boggling combine performance and signed with Buffalo as a college free agent, is a physical freak.

 

Guys his size aren't supposed to move so quickly, to have this kind of flexibility, to be running down under kickoffs as a wedge-buster. But after watching Peters in practice, April knew he could blend him into the special teams mix if coach Mike Mularkey ever decided to move the rookie to the active roster.

 

"We would use him against our own people in practice and, I'll tell you what, he just wore them out," said April. "We put him in the middle and our deep snapper hated to work against him. He'd go down and collapse the 'wedge' on kickoffs, I mean taking on three or four guys. He's big, he's tough, he's kind of an aberration. But, hey, he's our aberration, and I love it."

 

Peters is also, apparently, a quick study, as evidenced by Sunday's blocked punt.

 

April didn't necessarily do anything special in preparing for Cincinnati punter Kyle Larson. It wasn't as if there was some tell-tale videotape tipoff that suggested Buffalo might be able to get to Larson who, April conceded, doesn't not have a particularly slow get-off time on his kicks. Instead, the blocked punt came primarily because Peters made an adjustment.

Jason Peters, middle, is surrounded by teammates after scoring his first TD.

On the first Cincinnati punt of the game, Peters attempted to get into the backfield with a bull-rush technique, and was stymied. On the second, he opted for a "swim" move, a technique more often associated with pass-rushers, and slipped inside the block. Once into the backfield, he laid out his body, extended his right hand, and made contact, with the ball careening back into the Cincinnati end zone.

 

Peters out-raced several teammates to pounce on the ball for the score.

 

"What I liked," said April, "was that he was textbook in everything he did. A lot of guys will break through and won't lay out or extend their body. You've got to lay out and try to pick a spot where you'll intersect with the ball and that's what Jason did. It was a great play, really, and it demonstrated just how athletic the guy is."

 

Then again, special teams are characteristically filled with excellent athletes, all over the league. What sets Peters apart is his enormous size and the physical torque he generates when he gets all 328 pounds moving with such velocity. At least twice on Sunday, it was obvious that Cincinnati blockers on kickoffs wanted nothing to do with him.

 

"The first time guys see me running down under a kick, I'm sure they're thinking that it's some kind of mistake," said Peters, who has five special teams tackles in five games. "You can kind of see their eyes get big. I don't think they really want a piece of me when I'm rolling at full speed."

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/stor..._len&id=1949716

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Nice article. I see exactly EVERYTHING that the article claims. Thus, my assertion that the guy should be made into a defensive lineman. I said that from day 1.

 

BUT, we have him at OT wasting, IMO, his natural abilities. I would love to see him next to Fat Sam OR in Kelsay's spot.

 

However, while the article is outstanding in pointing out that Peters is excellent in breaking up wedges.....which he is......although I can't imagine him taking out 4 guys......but nonetheless, sometimes that had no effect on the play Sunday against Houston. If he is the last one down there, he's not breaking up any wedges. I know, that on at least three occasions, he was the last guy down the field. I'm pretty sure the first few guys down the field are hitting the wedges first.

 

I think Peters would be a MONSTER somewhere on the DL. However, if we use him on the OL, I'm not sure his skills wouldn't be best used at guard where he could pull and lead out in space blowing up blockers.

 

I just don't get the OT thing. But oh well.

[CentralVaBills]

Relax Brad Riter

Glad to see you participate, a lot of folks wont do what you do.  You reference your High School coaching as  often as I scratch my ass. Are you really that good?

 

Maybe you need to go into NFL Coaching?

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No, just saying I'm out there. And when I get attacked for stating an opinion on a player for the purpose of who can be the biggest rah rah comedian on a keyboard, well, hey......just calling it like I see em. Some posters are great at forming shots in sentence form on a keyboard......I'm not. I'm just asking about our man Peters. Doesn't mean I don't like him like the rest of you. I just don't know where all of hype, in some instances, is coming from.

 

But yet, say something negative about a Bill, and you are a moron. God forbid someone get pissed that we haven't made the playoffs forever, and hold the roster to a little more objectivity. I'm just trying to figure out why the hell this roster isn't getting to the playoffs. Something is wrong somewhere.

 

I would be glad to dissect a team in a film room with some of you. Saturday morning 7 am, anytime any of you want to come....I'll send directions. I'd actually like to see how much some of you really know, outside of what ESPN or what a poster who can type a good sentence tells you.

[MadBuffaloDisease]

I think Peters would be a MONSTER somewhere on the DL.  However, if we use him on the OL, I'm not sure his skills wouldn't be best used at guard where he could pull and lead out in space blowing up blockers.

 

I just don't get the OT thing.  But oh well.

IIRC, Peters played offense, TE mostly, during his college career. As a TE, his job was to block as well as catch passes. Well that's right up the alley of an OT. While it's possible he could be a good DT (can't really see him as a DE, but you never know), I think it would take him longer to master. Maybe he can be a true 2-way (3-way if you count ST's!) player?

[Adam]

Well, Peters lovers rejoice, he actually made an impact.  I was at the game, and it looked like Peters made a heckuva catch.  Nice.  So, he does have some hands.

 

Also, I don't think he is as stupid as most people make him out to be.  He was interviewed on some local TV after the game and seemed, relatively, like a pretty good speaker.

 

Lastly, the good and bad together......he's not nearly as fast as everyone makes him out to be.  As a matter of fact, he's usually the last one down on kickoff coverage.  HOWEVER.....on the kickoff after his touchdown catch, he absolutely OBLITERATED the poor Texan who got in his way.  Here comes big #71 gliding down the field, and just plowed over some Texan in his way.  He didn't come anywhere near the tackle, however, the play wasn't quite in his lane.  He is pretty good at busting up wedges should one happen to form in his path.  Also, he looks so damn intimidating out there on the kickoff team.

 

He's also not an unblockable demon on special teams punts and stuff, but the guy really does things well for a big guy.

 

While I don't understand how he isn't good enough to play TE on a team with bad TE's.....I will say this......our TE's were open and getting separation all day, which is promising.  Peters, I think could add to that TE combo, but I guess he's gonna be a lineman.  However, don't think now that Peters caught a pass that teams won't be watching him to catch another one. 

 

Lastly, I don't know why Peters is being so looked at as a T, when I think he'd be a great D'Lineman.  But, here's hoping that Peters the Myth continues to make strides toward a starting spot somewhere in the near future.

 

He does do some good things out there.

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You sir, are a naysayer

[CentralVaBills]

IIRC, Peters played offense, TE mostly, during his college career.  As a TE, his job was to block as well as catch passes.  Well that's right up the alley of an OT.  While it's possible he could be a good DT (can't really see him as a DE, but you never know), I think it would take him longer to master.  Maybe he can be a true 2-way (3-way if you count ST's!) player?

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I gotcha, and I understand in theory what they are trying to do. However, with what he actually does well, it would suit him to play on the DL. DT is the easiest position to teach in football. I mean seriously.......you can make most biggish, fattish, football players with any agility into prodcutive DT's. I mean, seriously....in some called defenses they read. In some, they shoot gaps, and in some they just try to occupy blockers. I mean, you can make it more complicated obviously, but in the building blocks of the postion, that's what they do. I know he could do any of that by what he does on special teams alone. The only reason I think he could maybe play DE, is because he is agile. So, he could probably contain, as well as be athletic enough to learn pass rushing moves. But from what everyone says about his skills, why not use him where he could be a playmaker? Busting up wedges, athletic, speed, and strength, to me, screams DL.

 

But oh well, wherever he lines up, more power to him. I just think he could make an instant impact on the DL. The only thing MOST projects have to learn on the DL is remembering to make tackles. As dumb as that sounds, sometimes they get so caught up in attacking their spot, or occupying OL'men they forget to also try and tackle the ballcarrier.

 

But, I also see your point. Well taken.

[MadBuffaloDisease]

I gotcha, and I understand in theory what they are trying to do.  However, with what he actually does well, it would suit him to play on the DL.  DT is the easiest position to teach in football.  I mean seriously.......you can make most biggish, fattish, football players with any agility into prodcutive DT's.  I mean, seriously....in some called defenses they read.  In some, they shoot gaps, and in some they just try to occupy blockers.  I mean, you can make it more complicated obviously, but in the building blocks of the postion, that's what they do.  I know he could do any of that by what he does on special teams alone.  The only reason I think he could maybe play DE, is because he is agile.  So, he could probably contain, as well as be athletic enough to learn pass rushing moves.  But from what everyone says about his skills, why not use him where he could be a playmaker?  Busting up wedges, athletic, speed, and strength, to me, screams DL.

 

But oh well, wherever he lines up, more power to him.  I just think he could make an instant impact on the DL.  The only thing MOST projects have to learn on the DL is remembering to make tackles.  As dumb as that sounds, sometimes they get so caught up in attacking their spot, or occupying OL'men they forget to also try and tackle the ballcarrier.

 

But, I also see your point.  Well taken.

It was also a matter of need. Last year the Bills had Fat Pat, Phat Sam, Phat Ron, and just drafted Phat-in-waiting Tim. I would suspect however that IF Jason doesn't pan-out at LT, they'll try him on the DL.

[Simon]

Aside from the homer type stuff that you almost always post. You would swear that by reading your posts, time after time, that the Bills were in the playoffs the last five years in a row. Aside from your lineman post, which was the first time I actually saw you view something somewhat objective

The reason you don't see it is because unless somebody is yelling in capital letters with exclamation points and repeating the same thing over and over, you view it as homerism. I say my piece once and am done with it. If that doesn't meet the over the top mentality of your sportsradio generation then too bad. I don't need to make an ass out of myself to get my point across. I can make an ass out of myself in much more interesting and entertaining ways.

 

Again, this guy does everything......he's just that special.....but yet, I still haven't heard a credible reason on why he doesn't start somewhere.

You never answered my post in one of your previous rants where I suggested that Peters is being groomed to fill the very difficult to fill LT position. After just a few months at the postion he's certainly not ready to play pro ball there. But LT is one of the most difficult postions to fill in this league so if he has to take a year to learn it instead of wasting a year being an average TE (a position which is easy to fill with guys who won't hurt you), then what's the problem? It's called maximizing your assets by taking a year to prepare a guy for a hard-to-fill position instead of just plugging him in at an easy-to-fill position.

 

at least by calling out all of the super-homer comments that most of you make about him, we are now getting objective viewpoints of him.

This is exactly why you get the resposes you do, and it has noting to do with Peters. A couple people are intrigued with a guy carrying that size/speed ratio who is very entertaining to watch. And you feel the need to go off calling "most" of us "super-homers". Folks don't generally react well to being called names for no reason.

 

Or, yet, him making all these solo tackles on the kick coverage.....So, OK, whatever you say

There you are making up more crap again. I pointed out he made ONE good ST tackle and you turn it into "all these solo tackles". You have a habit of making stuff up just so that you can refute it. That's why you've never kocked over anything more stout than a straw man.

 

But he doesn't do have the stuff everyone here thinks he does.

Yeah, "everyone".

 

But yet, say something negative about a Bill, and you are a moron.

lol, that's pretty funny considering YOU have called more people morons than anybody else around here.

 

that's why he's on the bench for most of the game. Doesn't mean he always will be his whole career, just means that he has a long way to go.

Which is exactly what the vast majority of people on this board have said. He's fun to watch but he has a ways to go. Yet you continue to insist that "everybody" claims he is Deion Sanders, Bo Jackson, Tony Boselli, Ozzie Newsome, Steve Tasker rolled into one. And then rag on everybody for saying it when in reality YOU are the only one who said it.

 

However, he's a notch or two below Stamer on this same special teams unit.

Maybe he is, maybe not. I like Stamer(he's a fearless missile and I wish he moved a little better so he could supplant Pus.... errrr Posey) but I've never seen opponents comment about "who the hell is that Stamer guy?" while I have seen them say that about Peters.

 

I suppose you'll now come back with something along the lines of "Everybody on this board says that everybody in the NFL says that Jason Peters is the greatest ST's player of all-time!" That should give you something to argue about. Unfortunately you'll only be arguing with yourself again.

[CentralVaBills]

It was also a matter of need.  Last year the Bills had Fat Pat, Phat Sam, Phat Ron, and just drafted Phat-in-waiting Tim.  I would suspect however that IF Jason doesn't pan-out at LT, they'll try him on the DL.

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I also agree there too. But still, cmon man, tell me you wouldn't want to see him on the D line. The need to replace Phat Sam is coming soon. And when Phat Sam finally hits the wall, he's gonna hit it hard.

 

But imagine this......Peters does actually have the skill to play DL. How much more frightening would that make our already good defense? I mean, NOTHING beats a great front four. I just would like to see Peters use his skills somewhere other than OT. Like I said, if he's that agile, why not guard, where it takes those skills to get out in space and block? If he ever becomes a LT, his ST's days are done. And so are using the rest of his athletic skills for the purpose of being a playmaker, and to me, that doesn't make much sense to do that to this guy.

[CentralVaBills]

The reason you don't see it is because unless somebody is yelling in capital letters with exclamation points and repeating the same thing over and over, you view it as homerism. I say my piece once and am done with it. If that doesn't meet the over the top mentality of your sportsradio generation then too bad. I don't need to make an ass out of myself to get my point across. I can make an ass out of myself in much more interesting and entertaining ways.

You never answered my post in one of your previous rants where I suggested that Peters is being groomed to fill the very difficult to fill LT position. After just a few months at the postion he's certainly not ready to play pro ball there. But LT is one of the most difficult postions to fill in this league so if he has to take a year to learn it instead of wasting a year being an average TE (a position which is easy to fill with guys who won't hurt you), then what's the problem? It's called maximizing your assets by taking a year to prepare a guy for a hard-to-fill position instead of just plugging him in at an easy-to-fill position.

This is exactly why you get the resposes you do, and it has noting to do with Peters. A couple people are intrigued with a guy carrying that size/speed ratio who is very entertaining to watch. And you feel the need to go off calling "most" of us "super-homers". Folks don't generally react well to being called names for no reason.

There you are making up more crap again. I pointed out he made ONE good ST tackle and you turn it into "all these solo tackles". You have a habit of making stuff up just so that you can refute it. That's why you've never kocked over anything more stout than a straw man.

Yeah, "everyone". 

lol, that's pretty funny considering YOU have called more people morons than anybody else around here.

Which is exactly what the vast majority of people on this board have said. He's fun to watch but he has a ways to go. Yet you continue to insist that "everybody" claims he is Deion Sanders, Bo Jackson, Tony Boselli, Ozzie Newsome, Steve Tasker rolled into one. And then  rag on everybody for saying it when in reality YOU are the only one who said it.

Maybe he is, maybe not. I like Stamer(he's a fearless missile and I wish he moved a little better so he could supplant Pus.... errrr Posey) but I've never seen opponents comment about "who the hell is that Stamer guy?" while I have seen them say that about Peters.

 

I suppose you'll now come back with something along the lines of "Everybody on this board says that everybody in the NFL says that Jason Peters is the greatest ST's player of all-time!" That should give you something to argue about. Unfortunately you're only arguing with yourself again.

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OK, you're right. I'll bow to you now. Peters didn't garner any unrealistic attention on this board.

 

OK, whatever you say. Good Luck.

[Simon]

Peters didn't garner any unrealistic attention on this board.

Yeah, that's what I said.

 

OK, you're right. I'll bow to you now.....

OK, whatever you say. Good Luck

Now there's a guy who quits in the 4th qrtr.