Dan III Posted September 7, 2005 Posted September 7, 2005 http://buffalobills.com/blog/?topic_id=11 "Lindell was doing well in the preseason until he hooked a 32-yarder in the preseason finale and then had a rough few days of practice after that."
plenzmd1 Posted September 7, 2005 Posted September 7, 2005 Said it before, say it again, Nick Novak is out there. At least in college, this dude was money when game on the line. I know he would be a rookie, but for christs sake bring him in for a look see. Fear the turtle
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted September 7, 2005 Posted September 7, 2005 Nick Novak or Todd France either one of them. If they don't beat out Lindell, I'll deal for another year, but damn bring in someone to challenge him
brihs2005 Posted September 7, 2005 Posted September 7, 2005 Its Wednesday... are they going to make a move or not? Might they let Lindell play this one game, and then release him, or does that do something with the cap? Season is approaching TD, put down that crackpipe and let us know whats up.
Rubes Posted September 7, 2005 Posted September 7, 2005 It was obvious that the coaching staff wasn't happy with the inaccuracy of Jon Dorenbos' snaps. Hadn't seen or heard anything about that...
Fake-Fat Sunny Posted September 7, 2005 Posted September 7, 2005 How are France or Novack at kickoffs. KO is an incredibly important and essential part pf pur kicker's duties. While the other essential element for a quality kicker, placekicking often gets treated as the only important work a kicker does, given the importance of our coverage working to this team putting up Ws, a replacement kicker for Lindell MUST be able to consistently kick it to the location and with the timing that the rest of the ST expects or big returns will happen. Lindell has sucked so bad at long kicks that clearly MM and the braintrust have little or no confidence in this part of his game and also has missed some chip shots that he certainly should be replaced with a better kicker. However, a kicker who does well with the placelkicks and has more distance is simply not a better kicker than even the inadequate Lindell if he cannot handle the tricky winds of the Ralph snf kick off with the same consistency which allowed the Bills coverage team to give up 0 returns for TDs and even few long returns last year. Certainly having a good (or even adequate kicker is going to get you a W or two a year from clutch kicks. But in every game the ability to kickoff as ordered is going to be done and often plays a critical role in the field position battle. Many fans also mistake quality at kickoffs as the ability to boom them consistely like Janakowsi or the the number of TBs to his credit. Now that the NFL has moved the kickoff from the 40 where it used to be to way back toward our endzone, getting a player with the leg to assure TBs is doubtful and the ability to directional kick and also get the appripriate hang time is a far better strategy. In pre-season the coverage game (led by a Lindell kickoff) looked phenomenal and far more often than the norm seemed to even make the tackle so the opposing team ended up with a drive start inside their 20 which is even better than a TB. So bring in France, Novack or whoever, but I am far less interested in them inless there is some tangible evidence that they can handle the critical kickoff duty.
txbillsjunkie Posted September 7, 2005 Posted September 7, 2005 Now that the NFL has moved the kickoff from the 40 where it used to be to way back toward our endzone, getting a player with the leg to assure TBs is doubtful and the ability to directional kick and also get the appripriate hang time is a far better strategy. 431625[/snapback] Also, don't forget about the field advantage lost by a kick-off out of bounds...
Tux of Borg Posted September 7, 2005 Posted September 7, 2005 Has Lindell ever kicked it in the endzone? Honestly, I don't remember him ever doing so. I'm sure it has happened once or twice.
Mikie2times Posted September 7, 2005 Posted September 7, 2005 So bring in France, Novack or whoever, but I am far less interested in them inless there is some tangible evidence that they can handle the critical kickoff duty. 431625[/snapback] I read an article on France in another thread that had several Jon Gruden quotes. From what I saw Gruden thought he could make every kick in the game, and that he was also capable of handling different weather and playing surfaces. I guess the battle between him a Brein was extremely close, with Briens experience giving him the edge. Gruden also went onto say that he will become a very good NFL kicker. His NFL Europe statistics indicate power, as he attempted and made a couple 50+ yarders. He recently hit a 46 yarder in preseason, and showed no dramatic drop of from his NFL Europe stats when kicking from 40-49 as compared to 30-39. That combined with what Gruden had to say leads me to believe this kid will land somewhere. Hopefully we give him a shot as many of the good younger kickers seem to bounce round for awhile before getting settled (Shayne Graham comes to mind ).
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted September 7, 2005 Posted September 7, 2005 Has Lindell ever kicked it in the endzone? Honestly, I don't remember him ever doing so. I'm sure it has happened once or twice. 431639[/snapback] he has 6 in the last 2 years 3 in 2003 and 3 in 04
Mile High Posted September 7, 2005 Posted September 7, 2005 He booted one really deep in the Detroit game last week that was about 5 yeards deep into the endzone. That was suprising to me. I can't remember anytime before that I saw him kick one in the endzone other that that one.
Typical TBD Guy Posted September 7, 2005 Posted September 7, 2005 Check out Lindell's career stats... In his past 2 years with the Bills, Lindell's averaged 2 completed field goals and 6 attempted field goals PER SEASON beyond the 40 yard line!
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted September 7, 2005 Posted September 7, 2005 I read an article on France in another thread that had several Jon Gruden quotes. From what I saw Gruden thought he could make every kick in the game, and that he was also capable of handling different weather and playing surfaces. I guess the battle between him a Brein was extremely close, with Briens experience giving him the edge. Gruden also went onto say that he will become a very good NFL kicker. His NFL Europe statistics indicate power, as he attempted and made a couple 50+ yarders. He recently hit a 46 yarder in preseason, and showed no dramatic drop of from his NFL Europe stats when kicking from 40-49 as compared to 30-39. That combined with what Gruden had to say leads me to believe this kid will land somewhere. Hopefully we give him a shot as many of the good younger kickers seem to bounce round for awhile before getting settled (Shayne Graham comes to mind ). ya know where we got our "unheard of" punter that now is prob top 3 in the league.....yup NFL E
Ozymandius Posted September 7, 2005 Posted September 7, 2005 Haha. Donahoe was just quoted as sayin that Lindell is a "very good kicker" in this article: http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=3357 I don't think our kicker is going to change any time soon. It's really a shame.
dpbillsfan Posted September 7, 2005 Posted September 7, 2005 I thought Lindell was a good kicker in Seattle but he sure has sucked since we signed him. I say cut him. I don't think he's gonna get any better. RL=RJ
Corp000085 Posted September 7, 2005 Posted September 7, 2005 its obviously dorenbros's fault. he's gone, so we can all move on now with our all-pro kicker.
nobody Posted September 7, 2005 Posted September 7, 2005 The one problem with an NFL-E kicker is that the last part of the year his leg will be shot. Remember Moorman's first year his leg was wearing out at the end of the season. Not the best thing to happen to your kicker.
BB2004 Posted September 7, 2005 Posted September 7, 2005 http://buffalobills.com/blog/?topic_id=11 "Lindell was doing well in the preseason until he hooked a 32-yarder in the preseason finale and then had a rough few days of practice after that." 431605[/snapback] Lindell knows he's going to have to bring his A game every week if he wants to stay here. The key for him is to get off to a good start very early. I think he'll be tested a lot during the first week against the Texans.
stuckincincy Posted September 7, 2005 Posted September 7, 2005 Due to a nagging groin injury to Shayne Graham, the B'gals signed an Arena football player named Carter Worley - he was a classmate of Graham's at Virginia Tech. He was IIRC 3 of 4 in the pre-season, with two 43 yarders. Nothing to note about his kickoff distances, though. He's been cut, which was expected.
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