grabowr30045 Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 Some of you are ganging up on Nadin and it's not right. There is no telecommunications infrastructe. It took the government 3 days to start filling in the breach at the 17th street canal (by the way, a city isn't going to have the resources (financial) to fix the breaks in the levees) . There is one way in and out of the city. There is mass chaos. I am a Liberterian pretty much against big government but this is a time when the federal government has to take over the responsibility of this. Nadin is trapped in a disaster. They (federal gov't) has the resources to deal with the disaster better than internally within the city. Finally, I think there are some important things that all cities should do in the future based on what has happened in New Orleans. 1. There should be some satellite phones at every police station. A lot of the chaos is due to the lack of communication. Pay the $700 for phones and the $50 a month service. At least you can have some command in place. 2. In the South on the coast, there should be forced evacuations when the probability of a threat of disaster is at a certain percentage. 3. Further illustrating 2, there should be a plan in places for bus service to taxi people out of poor areas. For those who have been to New Orleans, if you drove through Medairre (I-10 W), it's like Broadway Ave. in Buffalo (I lived on Kosciuszko St.) now. If 2 can't work, this would have reduced the likelihood of all the deaths that o
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 I don't think the people who posted below you have much experience in disaster response. No, it seems to me that anyone who voted one way in the last election is basically saying one thing, while those that voted the other way are saying another. And that's not interesting. That's appalling. 427267[/snapback] But it is what it is. It's like people just couldn't WAIT to make a tie-in to the Iraq war. Sad and ridiculous in my opinion.
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 Some of you are ganging up on Nadin and it's not right. There is no telecommunications infrastructe. It took the government 3 days to start filling in the breach at the 17th street canal (by the way, a city isn't going to have the resources (financial) to fix the breaks in the levees) . There is one way in and out of the city. There is mass chaos. I am a Liberterian pretty much against big government but this is a time when the federal government has to take over the responsibility of this. Nadin is trapped in a disaster. They (federal gov't) has the resources to deal with the disaster better than internally within the city. Finally, I think there are some important things that all cities should do in the future based on what has happened in New Orleans. 1. There should be some satellite phones at every police station. A lot of the chaos is due to the lack of communication. Pay the $700 for phones and the $50 a month service. At least you can have some command in place. 2. In the South on the coast, there should be forced evacuations when the probability of a threat of disaster is at a certain percentage. 3. Further illustrating 2, there should be a plan in places for bus service to taxi people out of poor areas. For those who have been to New Orleans, if you drove through Medairre (I-10 W), it's like Broadway Ave. in Buffalo (I lived on Kosciuszko St.) now. If 2 can't work, this would have reduced the likelihood of all the deaths that o 427269[/snapback] Just wanted to clarify...I'm not criticizing Nadin for what he did after the levees broke. I'm criticizing him for what he apparently didn't do before it happened. And for trying to spread the blame for his own failings as a mayor to everyone BUT himself.
BB27 Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 Just wanted to clarify...I'm not criticizing Nadin for what he did after the levees broke. I'm criticizing him for what he apparently didn't do before it happened. And for trying to spread the blame for his own failings as a mayor to everyone BUT himself. 427277[/snapback] Do you pound nails regularly? Because you sure hit the nail on the head with that one.
grabowr30045 Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 Just wanted to clarify...I'm not criticizing Nadin for what he did after the levees broke. I'm criticizing him for what he apparently didn't do before it happened. And for trying to spread the blame for his own failings as a mayor to everyone BUT himself. 427277[/snapback] \ \The city doesn't have the financial resources to deal with that. Why do you think all the Liberals are gainging up on Bush.
BRH Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 But it is what it is. It's like people just couldn't WAIT to make a tie-in to the Iraq war. Sad and ridiculous in my opinion. 427272[/snapback] Be that as it may, the same kind of knee-jerk response is happening on the other side.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 Be that as it may, the same kind of knee-jerk response is happening on the other side. 427283[/snapback] Yes, well, I suppose that's to be expected in today's America, isn't it?
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 \\The city doesn't have the financial resources to deal with that. Why do you think all the Liberals are gainging up on Bush. 427282[/snapback] The city doesn't have the financial resources to plan? To move the busses somewhere where they won't be flooded to their roofs, so the ten thousand people they've stashed in the Superdome without food or water or electricity can get out? Go to your municipal government and ask to see their emergency preparedness plan. I'd think (hope) it's open to the public. I'll bet it's miles beyond anything those idiots in New Orleans ever managed.
BRH Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 Yes, well, I suppose that's to be expected in today's America, isn't it? 427285[/snapback] Sadly, yes.
Talonz Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 Hmmm - Whos fault is this? George Bush??? A picture is worth a thousand words ... Nice going Mayor...Blame everyone but YOURSELF!
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 Hmmm - Whos fault is this? George Bush??? A picture is worth a thousand words ...Nice going Mayor...Blame everyone but YOURSELF! 427314[/snapback] I've spent the past hour perusing the results of googling "New Orleans emergency plan". Found lots of interesting stuff that basically said "What plan?" And one article from last year about how New Orleans never coordinated with FEMA, despite FEMA's unprecedented ("first time ever", was the literal phrase in the article) attempts at aiding them in municipal disaster preparedness. The one thing I couldn't find was an emergency plan for New Orleans. Found plenty of others for other cities.
erynthered Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 I've spent the past hour perusing the results of googling "New Orleans emergency plan". Found lots of interesting stuff that basically said "What plan?" And one article from last year about how New Orleans never coordinated with FEMA, despite FEMA's unprecedented ("first time ever", was the literal phrase in the article) attempts at aiding them in municipal disaster preparedness. The one thing I couldn't find was an emergency plan for New Orleans. Found plenty of others for other cities. 427341[/snapback] You mean you've actualy done some research on this before spouting off regurgitated media bull/shiit? How original, Thanks
SDS Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 I've spent the past hour perusing the results of googling "New Orleans emergency plan". Found lots of interesting stuff that basically said "What plan?" And one article from last year about how New Orleans never coordinated with FEMA, despite FEMA's unprecedented ("first time ever", was the literal phrase in the article) attempts at aiding them in municipal disaster preparedness. The one thing I couldn't find was an emergency plan for New Orleans. Found plenty of others for other cities. 427341[/snapback] did you try: neworleansemergencyplan.gov ????
BillsWatch Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 I propose we siink an American city once every other year to training purposes. 426800[/snapback] So do we sink Miami odd years and raise it even years? It would give the illegal Cubans free baths every other year.
Ghost of BiB Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 You mean you've actualy done some research on this before spouting off regurgitated media bull/shiit? How original, Thanks 427346[/snapback] Don't need to Google. He has some common sense. Better than many.
Ghost of BiB Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 So do we sink Miami odd years and raise it even years? It would give the illegal Cubans free baths every other year. 427367[/snapback] Hey, back off. There's some great food in Little Havana.
erynthered Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 Don't need to Google. He has some common sense. Better than many. 427371[/snapback] Yes he does. I'm wondering when common sense will hit this place, any idea? BTW, you owe GG
Campy Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 I just saw an interview on TV where a tractor trailer driver said he was loaded full with cases of water in Houston to take to New Orleans on Monday afternoon, but he said his boss made him wait. I'm not sure why that is, but I'm reasonably confident that it has next to nothing to do with NO's response plan (or lack thereof).
Ghost of BiB Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 Yes he does. I'm wondering when common sense will hit this place, any idea?BTW, you owe GG 427381[/snapback] No, I don't. He's a carpetbagging mercenary.
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted September 3, 2005 Posted September 3, 2005 did you try: neworleansemergencyplan.gov ???? 427359[/snapback] Yeah. I get a 404 File Not Found error. Sounds about right...
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