Nervous Guy Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Congratulations. You are tall. What a feat. 425508[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 lets not politicize this, the president is following the same steps any leader would follow. this whole mentality that it is the gov'ts responsibility to solve all of our problems(I Know this is a monumental problem), instead of doing something to solve it, sitting on a bridge with your dead husband under the guard rails is not doing anything. start walking to safety!! these people should not have been there to begin with, if I was facing a storm of this magnitude and I was told to leave, if I had to walk with my family to a safer place I would have. I know alot of these people are below the poverty line and can't afford to just pack up and go! I do not want to paint a wide picture here, but how many of these people below the poverty line have too many kids? how many below the poverty line have air jordans? how many below the poverty line get thier nails done or get tatoos? how many below the poverty line have x-box and/or ps2 and/or gamecube? I certainly do not have alot of money, but I live within my means and try to take care of the important things. it doesn't always happen that way, but common man... I am sorry, but after I saw some "lady" last night blaming the governor of LA for this, that was the end for me! once again feel free to flame away! I'm doing what the President told me to do! 425510[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 lets not politicize this, the president is following the same steps any leader would follow. this whole mentality that it is the gov'ts responsibility to solve all of our problems(I Know this is a monumental problem), instead of doing something to solve it, sitting on a bridge with your dead husband under the guard rails is not doing anything. start walking to safety!! these people should not have been there to begin with, if I was facing a storm of this magnitude and I was told to leave, if I had to walk with my family to a safer place I would have. I know alot of these people are below the poverty line and can't afford to just pack up and go! I do not want to paint a wide picture here, but how many of these people below the poverty line have too many kids? how many below the poverty line have air jordans? how many below the poverty line get thier nails done or get tatoos? how many below the poverty line have x-box and/or ps2 and/or gamecube? I certainly do not have alot of money, but I live within my means and try to take care of the important things. it doesn't always happen that way, but common man... I am sorry, but after I saw some "lady" last night blaming the governor of LA for this, that was the end for me! once again feel free to flame away! 425529[/snapback] I am not going to flame you. I generally agree with you. The thing that got me is that I would some how be on the I-10 expressway walking west. In the heat, I may make it... I am not sure how my kids kids would do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 instead of doing something to solve it, sitting on a bridge with your dead husband under the guard rails is not doing anything. start walking to safety!! 425529[/snapback] No offense, but if my wife was laying there and you came by and told me to start walking you would be laying there too. It is easy to monday morning quarterback this whole situation from the comfort of our own homes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 No offense, but if my wife was laying there and you came by and told me to start walking you would be laying there too. It is easy to monday morning quarterback this whole situation from the comfort of our own homes. 425562[/snapback] It would probably look like a death march. The find I feel is appalling is what is going on at the convention center... ALL AUTHORITY has left and abandoned the place. But, Harry Connick Jr. is there... What the eff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Don't worry Mike. I saw the President on Good Morning America today. He said he has a "plan". Quit complaining. Things like this take time. People are starving and have no water, but we need a plan! We can't just go randomly dropping a resource like bottled water. I mean, hell, something like that takes at LEAST 96 hours, didn't you know? Apparently you haven't been listening to the TBD "experts" on hurricane relief. Pay attention man! 425472[/snapback] Because that's what a chaotic situation needs. More randomness. Jesus Christ, you're an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gross Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Congratulations. You are tall. What a feat. 425508[/snapback] More than six of them actually... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 yeah i know, and i really do feel bad about being so synical, but ya feel how ya feel I guess and if ya can't express it here to let off a little steam, then I would probably 'splode! No offense, but if my wife was laying there and you came by and told me to start walking you would be laying there too. It is easy to monday morning quarterback this whole situation from the comfort of our own homes. 425562[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 More than six of them actually... 425577[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 yeah i know, and i really do feel bad about being so synical, but ya feel how ya feel I guess and if ya can't express it here to let off a little steam, then I would probably 'splode! 425581[/snapback] So true, so true. It is a defense and coping mech we all use. I like to think if I was in this unfortunate situation, I would fair better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John in VA Beach Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Anybody who doesn't think that the governments response to this disaster has been and continues to be slow is delusional. The thing that really gets me is that apparently one guy maybe more, but I've only seen one gunner confirmed, in a crowd randomly fired at a helicopter so all rescue attempts were halted at the dome. If that is the case, send in more guards, a few people with weapons is no excuse for the US gov/ military not to go in and assist those that need help. If that was a factor in decideding how we run business in the US we sure as hell wouldn't be spread all over the globe militarily today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gross Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 425586[/snapback] Doing your tribute to dear departed Mr. Right by posting using only smilies today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted September 1, 2005 Author Share Posted September 1, 2005 lets not politicize this, the president is following the same steps any leader would follow. this whole mentality that it is the gov'ts responsibility to solve all of our problems(I Know this is a monumental problem), instead of doing something to solve it, sitting on a bridge with your dead husband under the guard rails is not doing anything. start walking to safety!! these people should not have been there to begin with, if I was facing a storm of this magnitude and I was told to leave, if I had to walk with my family to a safer place I would have. I know alot of these people are below the poverty line and can't afford to just pack up and go! I do not want to paint a wide picture here, but how many of these people below the poverty line have too many kids? how many below the poverty line have air jordans? how many below the poverty line get thier nails done or get tatoos? how many below the poverty line have x-box and/or ps2 and/or gamecube? I certainly do not have alot of money, but I live within my means and try to take care of the important things. it doesn't always happen that way, but common man... I am sorry, but after I saw some "lady" last night blaming the governor of LA for this, that was the end for me! once again feel free to flame away! 425529[/snapback] Poojer, In many respects I agree with you. There was no possible way to prepare for an event of this magnitude. Perhaps in retrospect there should have been a mandatory forced evacuation and perhaps in the future there will be. I don't want to politicize this either but I will say that this entire responsive effort is indicative of the failings our government. It's not about Republican, Democrat, Liberal or Conservative. It's about the health and safety of a nation. Our goverment has become so large and departmentalized that it takes them 48 hours to get anything moving. I would have preferred that the rescue and assistance teams begin assembling on Saturday. Martial law could have been declared on Sunday night and troops could have been on the ground Monday afternoon. It's easy to second guess at this point, it's just terribly frustrating to watch people suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Doing your tribute to dear departed Mr. Right by posting using only smilies today? 425591[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Anybody who doesn't think that the governments response to this disaster has been and continues to be slow is delusional. The thing that really gets me is that apparently one guy maybe more, but I've only seen one gunner confirmed, in a crowd randomly fired at a helicopter so all rescue attempts were halted at the dome. If that is the case, send in more guards, a few people with weapons is no excuse for the US gov/ military not to go in and assist those that need help. If that was a factor in decideding how we run business in the US we sure as hell wouldn't be spread all over the globe militarily today. 425589[/snapback] Nicely said John. I repeat... "We will not tolerate lawlessness." Well, what is running from it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 yeah i know, and i really do feel bad about being so synical, but ya feel how ya feel I guess and if ya can't express it here to let off a little steam, then I would probably 'splode! 425581[/snapback] Its totally understandable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Poojer, In many respects I agree with you. There was no possible way to prepare for an event of this magnitude. Perhaps in retrospect there should have been a mandatory forced evacuation and perhaps in the future there will be. I don't want to politicize this either but I will say that this entire responsive effort is indicative of the failings our government. It's not about Republican, Democrat, Liberal or Conservative. It's about the health and safety of a nation. Our goverment has become so large and departmentalized that it takes them 48 hours to get anything moving. I would have preferred that the rescue and assistance teams begin assembling on Saturday. Martial law could have been declared on Sunday night and troops could have been on the ground Monday afternoon. It's easy to second guess at this point, it's just terribly frustrating to watch people suffering. 425592[/snapback] Am I the only one that heard the reports of rescue and assistance teams being assembled in Baton Rouge on Saturday and Sunday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Poojer, In many respects I agree with you. There was no possible way to prepare for an event of this magnitude. Perhaps in retrospect there should have been a mandatory forced evacuation and perhaps in the future there will be. I don't want to politicize this either but I will say that this entire responsive effort is indicative of the failings our government. It's not about Republican, Democrat, Liberal or Conservative. It's about the health and safety of a nation. Our goverment has become so large and departmentalized that it takes them 48 hours to get anything moving. I would have preferred that the rescue and assistance teams begin assembling on Saturday. Martial law could have been declared on Sunday night and troops could have been on the ground Monday afternoon. It's easy to second guess at this point, it's just terribly frustrating to watch people suffering. 425592[/snapback] And if it doesn't hit (the Hurricane) that hard? All the tax-cheapos on the planet will be pissing and moaning a kidney stone how much a waste it was. To them I would say go eat a bowl of eff. I agree with you... I could care less how much we spend in preperation. I believe in preventive maintenance at all costs... I don't care if I use the plans or not. They ALWAYS lessen the randomness life throws at you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Anybody who doesn't think that the governments response to this disaster has been and continues to be slow is delusional. The thing that really gets me is that apparently one guy maybe more, but I've only seen one gunner confirmed, in a crowd randomly fired at a helicopter so all rescue attempts were halted at the dome. If that is the case, send in more guards, a few people with weapons is no excuse for the US gov/ military not to go in and assist those that need help. If that was a factor in decideding how we run business in the US we sure as hell wouldn't be spread all over the globe militarily today. 425589[/snapback] With so many assets overseas I have to agree. THIS is the reason we have the national guard. With a majority of americans already opposing the war, I imagine this will add a considerable amount of fuel to the fire in the coming days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted September 1, 2005 Author Share Posted September 1, 2005 Am I the only one that heard the reports of rescue and assistance teams being assembled in Baton Rouge on Saturday and Sunday? 425605[/snapback] Well if your town is about to be hit with a Cat 5 you might just want to do something. Unfortunately I'm not talking about the police and fire deparments in Baton Rouge. Did you hear any reports of teams assembling in oh say Texas or Utah or Ohio or New York?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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