VABills Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 Why do we allow ourself to get caught short? Let''s just drill the puppy and get us a nice surplus and home supply of oil.
philburger1 Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 Why do we allow ourself to get caught short? Let''s just drill the puppy and get us a nice surplus and home supply of oil. 424769[/snapback] We need some more places to refine it too.
VABills Posted August 31, 2005 Author Posted August 31, 2005 We need some more places to refine it too. 424774[/snapback] I agree. I believe we have some military bases being closed, some of them Navy with ports. Pretty easy in and out. Nice locations for refineries.
philburger1 Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 I agree. I believe we have some military bases being closed, some of them Navy with ports. Pretty easy in and out. Nice locations for refineries. 424795[/snapback] Yep, and easy to secure as well.
erynthered Posted September 1, 2005 Posted September 1, 2005 (!@#$ the spelling, don’t read this then) I'm having a hard time dealing with this ANWAR thing. Its not the problem, we can get enough oil if we want. We brought the middle east into the 21 (or 22 century, depending on who you believe) It was in our best interest to do that. The big three had the capabilities of developing a much better car, more fuel efficient. Wasn’t gonna happen. Just think of the jobs that could be lost due to a car that got 30MPG back in the 70's, or a car that had a set of plugs last longer than 15 or 25 thousand miles. In the grand scheme of things, the global plan was for the middle east to catch up, while sustaining our economy at the same time. There is enough oil to bring us into the 22 century and beyond, we're just 50 years behind..........
Black Panther Posted September 1, 2005 Posted September 1, 2005 Why do we allow ourself to get caught short? Let''s just drill the puppy and get us a nice surplus and home supply of oil. 424769[/snapback] uh huh, 10 years from now we'll get enough out of there to last a year. Great idea. How about making real choices that solve the prroblem... forget the Bush scams that don't solve anything but help GOP Contributions from the drillers. Higher MPG. Dems and especially the GOP should be ashamed of themselves for not executing this quick fix and doing something that would actually help.
Black Panther Posted September 1, 2005 Posted September 1, 2005 (!@#$ the spelling, don’t read this then)I'm having a hard time dealing with this ANWAR thing. Its not the problem, we can get enough oil if we want. We brought the middle east into the 21 (or 22 century, depending on who you believe) It was in our best interest to do that. The big three had the capabilities of developing a much better car, more fuel efficient. Wasn’t gonna happen. Just think of the jobs that could be lost due to a car that got 30MPG back in the 70's, or a car that had a set of plugs last longer than 15 or 25 thousand miles. In the grand scheme of things, the global plan was for the middle east to catch up, while sustaining our economy at the same time. There is enough oil to bring us into the 22 century and beyond, we're just 50 years behind.......... 424858[/snapback] Agreed but it won't cost jobs. That's a bunch of garbage to protect the scam and the GOP backers.
erynthered Posted September 1, 2005 Posted September 1, 2005 Agreed but it won't cost jobs. That's a bunch of garbage to protect the scam and the GOP backers. 424871[/snapback] And why is only the GOP backers? Get off the party suck box, think alittle bit......
Black Panther Posted September 1, 2005 Posted September 1, 2005 And why is only the GOP backers? Get off the party suck box, think alittle bit...... 424876[/snapback] Excuse me, yes you are right. there are a handful of Dim senators that voted against higher MPG to save their political butt. What happened to American enginuity and resourcefullness?? Greed, lobbyists and money has corrupted our whore politicians so much that we are paying for it up the butt just so select industries can prosper.
erynthered Posted September 1, 2005 Posted September 1, 2005 Excuse me, yes you are right. there are a handful of Dim senators that voted against higher MPG to save their political butt. What happened to American enginuity and resourcefullness?? Greed, lobbyists and money has corrupted our whore politicians so much that we are paying for it up the butt just so select industries can prosper. 424884[/snapback] You missed the point, the aim for this country was to bring them out of the 16th century. We pulled them through the sand storms. Now they control us, for lack of a better term. Both the Dim’s and the rep’ub have done it, cant you see that?
Black Panther Posted September 1, 2005 Posted September 1, 2005 You missed the point, the aim for this country was to bring them out of the 16th century. We pulled them through the sand storms. Now they control us, for lack of a better term. Both the Dim’s and the rep’ub have done it, cant you see that? 424901[/snapback] absolutely! You are 100% correct. and why? because of our greed and need for political money from those who benefit from these policies. There is no way we can eliminate the towel heads resources unless we make some hard choices and get on with what made this nation great... No amount of drilling here can replace arab oil... even if it could it is backwards thinking and does nothing to move on to a brighter, cleaner, self reliant future of energy.
boomerjamhead Posted September 1, 2005 Posted September 1, 2005 uh huh, 10 years from now we'll get enough out of there to last a year. Great idea. How about making real choices that solve the prroblem... forget the Bush scams that don't solve anything but help GOP Contributions from the drillers. Higher MPG. Dems and especially the GOP should be ashamed of themselves for not executing this quick fix and doing something that would actually help. 424866[/snapback] I'm cool with that provided we start building more nuclear reactors for generation of electricity. Had you actually read Bush's energy plan, you wouldn't be talking out of your ass right now.
erynthered Posted September 1, 2005 Posted September 1, 2005 absolutely! You are 100% correct. and why? because of our greed and need for political money from those who benefit from these policies. There is no way we can eliminate the towel heads resources unless we make some hard choices and get on with what made this nation great... No amount of drilling here can replace arab oil... even if it could it is backwards thinking and does nothing to move on to a brighter, cleaner, self reliant future of energy. 424906[/snapback] Ok, so where do we start? The back bone of this economy for many years has been the car industries. What would you do to the Millions or so unionized that live off of the tit. Any ideas? Do you realize how much it takes to create a prototype car? And how many years?
Buffalo Stampede Posted September 1, 2005 Posted September 1, 2005 Ok, so where do we start? The back bone of this economy for many years has been the car industries. What would you do to the Millions or so unionized that live off of the tit. Any ideas? Do you realize how much it takes to create a prototype car? And how many years? 424922[/snapback] From what I see... hybrids are not a prototype, and to increase mpg? it's here. VW's get 40 now, it is easy, and it won't put millions out of work.... that comment is extreme and false. We have the tech to do it easily. But Oil and Auto are in bed. Can't you see that? You go Black Panther!!
erynthered Posted September 1, 2005 Posted September 1, 2005 From what I see... hybrids are not a prototype, and to increase mpg? it's here. VW's get 40 now, it is easy, and it won't put millions out of work.... that comment is extreme and false. We have the tech to do it easily. But Oil and Auto are in bed. Can't you see that? You go Black Panther!! 424951[/snapback] That was to easy. Feel better guppy? Of course there are cars that get good MPG. (Whats highlighted is funny and lame)
boomerjamhead Posted September 1, 2005 Posted September 1, 2005 Of course there are cars that get good MPG. 424977[/snapback] Too bad I can't haul my dirtbike around in those types of vehicles. Nor can I take them to the mountains on hunting and snowboarding trips. I guess I'll just have to just give up my hobbies and hang out on the internet surfing porn my whole life.
erynthered Posted September 1, 2005 Posted September 1, 2005 Too bad I can't haul my dirtbike around in those types of vehicles. Nor can I take them to the mountains on hunting and snowboarding trips. I guess I'll just have to just give up my hobbies and hang out on the internet surfing porn my whole life. 424990[/snapback] (We're all gonna die, man.................. )
Buffalo Stampede Posted September 1, 2005 Posted September 1, 2005 That was to easy. Feel better guppy? Of course there are cars that get good MPG. (Whats highlighted is funny and lame) 424977[/snapback] Genius reply .... I guess you give up on your rediculous statements and choose to insult and run. Lemming.
erynthered Posted September 1, 2005 Posted September 1, 2005 Genius reply .... I guess you give up on your rediculous statements and choose to insult and run. Lemming. 425007[/snapback] Actuallyl your pal kind of agreed with me. Its an opinon that he seemed to maybe share. You OK?
Wacka Posted September 1, 2005 Posted September 1, 2005 And if you have 3 kids, how are you gonna fit them in a VW?
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