Sound_n_Fury Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 How many TD`s has J.P. thrown in pre-season.....0 Hey I love the kid but he need`s another year behind Holcomb,..this team is ready everywhere else and it would be a shame ...not to put the BEST player on the field..GO BILLS 421135[/snapback] He threw one in the Indy game. Stats are for losers, but JP's preseason QB rating ranks 13th overall...better than Carson Palmer, who had a good second half last year. Rank Player Team Yds Att Cmp TDs Ints Long Rating 1 Donovan McNabb PHI 495 51 34 5 2 64 114.4 2 Matt Hasselbeck SEA 429 58 40 4 1 36 106.2 3 Kerry Collins OAK 448 55 39 3 1 70 105.7 4 Tim Rattay SF 326 44 26 3 0 58 104.9 5 Billy Volek TEN 422 46 32 2 1 76 103.7 6 Jake Delhomme CAR 336 42 30 3 2 30 98.9 7 Mark Brunell WAS 303 42 27 0 0 24 85.7 8 Kurt Warner ARI 368 60 37 2 1 31 83.2 9 Byron Leftwich JAC 336 48 28 0 0 48 79.9 10 Seneca Wallace SEA 310 52 28 1 0 33 78.2 11 Steve McNair TEN 266 45 31 1 2 34 73.0 12 Aaron Brooks NO 311 52 29 1 1 47 71.9 13 J.P. Losman BUF 229 51 27 1 0 26 71.4 14 Chris Weinke CAR 236 46 22 2 1 26 68.8 15 Anthony Wright BAL 277 55 30 0 0 28 68.5 16 Matt Schaub ATL 284 58 30 3 2 36 68.5 17 Patrick Ramsey WAS 408 49 29 2 4 46 65.7 18 Jim Sorgi IND 412 69 38 1 2 32 65.6 19 Tim Hasselbeck NYG 268 47 24 2 2 34 64.8 20 Carson Palmer CIN 325 60 29 2 2 45 62.2 21 Gus Frerotte MIA 384 74 33 1 1 44 59.7 22 Dan Orlovsky DET 207 31 17 0 2 25 48.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 He threw one in the Indy game. Stats are for losers, but JP's preseason QB rating ranks 13th overall...better than Carson Palmer, who had a good second half last year. Rank Player Team Yds Att Cmp TDs Ints Long Rating 1 Donovan McNabb PHI 495 51 34 5 2 64 114.4 2 Matt Hasselbeck SEA 429 58 40 4 1 36 106.2 3 Kerry Collins OAK 448 55 39 3 1 70 105.7 4 Tim Rattay SF 326 44 26 3 0 58 104.9 5 Billy Volek TEN 422 46 32 2 1 76 103.7 6 Jake Delhomme CAR 336 42 30 3 2 30 98.9 7 Mark Brunell WAS 303 42 27 0 0 24 85.7 8 Kurt Warner ARI 368 60 37 2 1 31 83.2 9 Byron Leftwich JAC 336 48 28 0 0 48 79.9 10 Seneca Wallace SEA 310 52 28 1 0 33 78.2 11 Steve McNair TEN 266 45 31 1 2 34 73.0 12 Aaron Brooks NO 311 52 29 1 1 47 71.9 13 J.P. Losman BUF 229 51 27 1 0 26 71.4 ahh what are holcomb`s stas`t? 14 Chris Weinke CAR 236 46 22 2 1 26 68.8 15 Anthony Wright BAL 277 55 30 0 0 28 68.5 16 Matt Schaub ATL 284 58 30 3 2 36 68.5 17 Patrick Ramsey WAS 408 49 29 2 4 46 65.7 18 Jim Sorgi IND 412 69 38 1 2 32 65.6 19 Tim Hasselbeck NYG 268 47 24 2 2 34 64.8 20 Carson Palmer CIN 325 60 29 2 2 45 62.2 21 Gus Frerotte MIA 384 74 33 1 1 44 59.7 22 Dan Orlovsky DET 207 31 17 0 2 25 48.7 421139[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 He threw one in the Indy game. Stats are for losers, but JP's preseason QB rating ranks 13th overall...better than Carson Palmer, who had a good second half last year. Rank Player Team Yds Att Cmp TDs Ints Long Rating 1 Donovan McNabb PHI 495 51 34 5 2 64 114.4 2 Matt Hasselbeck SEA 429 58 40 4 1 36 106.2 3 Kerry Collins OAK 448 55 39 3 1 70 105.7 4 Tim Rattay SF 326 44 26 3 0 58 104.9 5 Billy Volek TEN 422 46 32 2 1 76 103.7 6 Jake Delhomme CAR 336 42 30 3 2 30 98.9 7 Mark Brunell WAS 303 42 27 0 0 24 85.7 8 Kurt Warner ARI 368 60 37 2 1 31 83.2 9 Byron Leftwich JAC 336 48 28 0 0 48 79.9 10 Seneca Wallace SEA 310 52 28 1 0 33 78.2 11 Steve McNair TEN 266 45 31 1 2 34 73.0 12 Aaron Brooks NO 311 52 29 1 1 47 71.9 13 J.P. Losman BUF 229 51 27 1 0 26 71.4 14 Chris Weinke CAR 236 46 22 2 1 26 68.8 15 Anthony Wright BAL 277 55 30 0 0 28 68.5 16 Matt Schaub ATL 284 58 30 3 2 36 68.5 17 Patrick Ramsey WAS 408 49 29 2 4 46 65.7 18 Jim Sorgi IND 412 69 38 1 2 32 65.6 19 Tim Hasselbeck NYG 268 47 24 2 2 34 64.8 20 Carson Palmer CIN 325 60 29 2 2 45 62.2 21 Gus Frerotte MIA 384 74 33 1 1 44 59.7 22 Dan Orlovsky DET 207 31 17 0 2 25 48.7 421139[/snapback] STILL waiting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 STILL waiting 421312[/snapback] Waiting for what? You didn't say anything.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB2004 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 After watching the replay of the Bears game, I was surprised how there seemed to be no commentary (except from JP himself) at all about the horrendous play of Losman. An entire defense stacked at the line, focused on stopping Willis, and JP just cannot find a receiver open downfield. Of course that is difficult to do when you constantly jump out of the pocket at the very least sign of a pass rush. He is skittish beyond all belief back there. An NFL QB must, at least occasionally, stand in the pocket and give receivers time to complete their downfield routes. A QB's main function is to throw the ball. not run, otherwise we would start Willis or Parrish at QB. Willis will continue to average about two yards per carry until JP shows he is willing to stand in the pocket and punish a nine man front with some downfield throws. He can spend ten offseasons in Buffalo studying the offense, but its all for nothing if he can't stand in the pocket and pull the trigger. 420908[/snapback] Patience, as it will only be a matter of time before we start calling him a star. He has a lot to learn in the pocket as you have mentioned, but his mobility is going to be a tremendous assest for our offensive line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Waiting for what? You didn't say anything.... 421316[/snapback] holcombs stat`s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finknottle Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 He threw one in the Indy game. Stats are for losers, but JP's preseason QB rating ranks 13th overall...better than Carson Palmer, who had a good second half last year. Rank Player Team Yds Att Cmp TDs Ints Long Rating 1 Donovan McNabb PHI 495 51 34 5 2 64 114.4 2 Matt Hasselbeck SEA 429 58 40 4 1 36 106.2 3 Kerry Collins OAK 448 55 39 3 1 70 105.7 4 Tim Rattay SF 326 44 26 3 0 58 104.9 5 Billy Volek TEN 422 46 32 2 1 76 103.7 6 Jake Delhomme CAR 336 42 30 3 2 30 98.9 7 Mark Brunell WAS 303 42 27 0 0 24 85.7 8 Kurt Warner ARI 368 60 37 2 1 31 83.2 9 Byron Leftwich JAC 336 48 28 0 0 48 79.9 10 Seneca Wallace SEA 310 52 28 1 0 33 78.2 11 Steve McNair TEN 266 45 31 1 2 34 73.0 12 Aaron Brooks NO 311 52 29 1 1 47 71.9 13 J.P. Losman BUF 229 51 27 1 0 26 71.4 14 Chris Weinke CAR 236 46 22 2 1 26 68.8 15 Anthony Wright BAL 277 55 30 0 0 28 68.5 16 Matt Schaub ATL 284 58 30 3 2 36 68.5 17 Patrick Ramsey WAS 408 49 29 2 4 46 65.7 18 Jim Sorgi IND 412 69 38 1 2 32 65.6 19 Tim Hasselbeck NYG 268 47 24 2 2 34 64.8 20 Carson Palmer CIN 325 60 29 2 2 45 62.2 21 Gus Frerotte MIA 384 74 33 1 1 44 59.7 22 Dan Orlovsky DET 207 31 17 0 2 25 48.7 421139[/snapback] I'm confused about these stats too. Are they supposed to be complete? Or just the leading passer on each team? JP is only the 4th rated qb on the Bills - scratch that, the 3rd as of todays cuts... I think they come from nfl.com. There are two interesting things to notice: 1. Half those guys are not the starters of their team. I don't know what criteria nfl.com is using - I suspect they are considering the pool qb's who are the passing yardage leaders of their team... 2. It is disturbing that everybody on that list has thrown for more yards than JP. In fact, he does not show up in the top 30, despite (I suspect) having had more game time than nearly every qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobblehead Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 holcombs stat`s 421325[/snapback] The stats against scrubs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 This has gone beyond stupid and into inane territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 holcombs stat`s 421325[/snapback] You don't make your comments inside of the quote box! CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canbuffan34 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 How many TD`s has J.P. thrown in pre-season.....0 Hey I love the kid but he need`s another year behind Holcomb,..this team is ready everywhere else and it would be a shame ...not to put the BEST player on the field..GO BILLS 421135[/snapback] You're as bad as that writer on RNews.com! JP did throw a TD pass to Evans in the Colts game!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Maybe I'm just way too optimistic, but I finally watched the game on tivo last night and I thought JP looked reasonably good. After reading the media coverage and TSW for 2 days I was expecting a horror show, but in my view he threw quite a few nice passes, avoided the rush well and didn't hurt the team. Certainly he looked better than Bledsoe did last year. It seemed like because of penalties and poor run blocking it was 3rd-and-12 about 5 times in the 1st quarter. Not fair to pin that on JP. He had a really nice drive that ended with a fumble by WM. Definitely a bonehead move to lose 20 yards down near their goal line, but that is going to happen once in a while. There were a number of times where he showed amazing ability to elude the pass rush. I've said it before and I'll say it again: if JP plays average-to-good this year, we will be in the playoffs. I'm starting to think he's going to get us there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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