stevestojan Posted September 13, 2004 Posted September 13, 2004 Ok, Lindell can eat a bag of dicks for all i care. This guy has one purpose in life. To kick a football between two uprights. And he is astonishingly bad at that. His kickoffs seem to have gotten a touch longer, but has he ever kicked one into, much less out of, the endzone? (ok, i just looked it up, 3 of his 60 kickoffs last year made it to the endzone). As for his field goals, he has shown decline over the one good season he had, for the Seahawks, in 2000: Last year, 2003, he was near perfect under 40 yards (14 of 15) But, over 40 yards, he was 3 of 9. THREE OF NINE. (33.34%). Sadly, that includes 3 of 7 from between 40 and 49. an off year? Well, lets see: 2003 - over 40yards: 3 of 9 (33.34%) 2002 - over 40yards: 5 of 9 (55.56%) 2001 - over 40yards: 9 of 19 (47.37%) 2000 - over 40yards: 10 of 11 (including 3 over 50 yards!) 90% Let's compare to an elite kicker (again, all numbers for kicks 40+) Vanderjagt 2003: 13 of 13 (100%) 2002: 9 of 14 (64%) 2001: 15 of 20 (75%) 2000: 5 of 7 (71%) 1999: 11 of 13 (85%) Vinatieri 2003: 5 of 9 (56%) 2002: 9 of 12 (75%) 2001: 8 of 13 (62%) 2000: 8 of 11 (73%) Morten Anderson Career: 172 of 279 from 40+ 62% And when you factor OUT the ones over 50 yards (so just FG from 40-49), he has a 68%. To those of you at camp, was anyone even looked at?
theesir Posted September 13, 2004 Posted September 13, 2004 What sucks is that they him to a restricted free agent offer sheet last year to get him from Seattle and gave him (for a kicker) a big signing bonus. They would eat a lot of cap space if they cut him. I'm sure the team would like to be looking in a different direction, but now their stuck.
Captain America Posted September 13, 2004 Posted September 13, 2004 What sucks is that they him to a restricted free agent offer sheet last year to get him from Seattle and gave him (for a kicker) a big signing bonus. They would eat a lot of cap space if they cut him. I'm sure the team would like to be looking in a different direction, but now their stuck. 29247[/snapback] OK well then get rid of Donaho
sfladave Posted September 13, 2004 Posted September 13, 2004 Christie just got released, is he still available?
theesir Posted September 13, 2004 Posted September 13, 2004 Christie just got released, is he still available? 29260[/snapback] He kicked a 52 yarder and then got cut today????
YOOOOOO Posted September 13, 2004 Posted September 13, 2004 Christie just got released, is he still available? 29260[/snapback] Nope he hit a 53 yard FG yesterday for the Giants...
sfladave Posted September 13, 2004 Posted September 13, 2004 He kicked a 52 yarder and then got cut today???? 29265[/snapback] Who picked him up, I thought he was released last week?
stevestojan Posted September 13, 2004 Author Posted September 13, 2004 He kicked a 52 yarder and then got cut today???? 29265[/snapback] he didn't hit it dead center...
YOOOOOO Posted September 13, 2004 Posted September 13, 2004 He kicked a 52 yarder and then got cut today???? 29265[/snapback] my bad....lol
sfladave Posted September 13, 2004 Posted September 13, 2004 My bad, I didn't know he was picked up by the Giants..oh well!
stevestojan Posted September 13, 2004 Author Posted September 13, 2004 but really, i mean honestly - how much more specialized a job can you have? For a living you either kick, or practice kicking fieldgoals. there should be guys in the NFL that can kick a 75 yarder, simply because they dont do anything else. But i dont even care about that. I just want consistency from 35-45. Is that so hard to ask? Every time this schlep lines up, i get scared. How about someone from a world cup team? Obvious leg strength. Just get him a coach, and make him practice for 12 months. At least next year we could have a kicker. I know, crazy talk. But really, when your leading point scorer (as most, if not all kickers are on a team) cant do s#it, it's time to start shopping.
Zamboni Man Posted September 13, 2004 Posted September 13, 2004 but really, i mean honestly - how much more specialized a job can you have? For a living you either kick, or practice kicking fieldgoals. there should be guys in the NFL that can kick a 75 yarder, simply because they dont do anything else. I don't know why, but that actually made me lol. Maybe it's just b/c I imagine stevestojan saying this in Denis Leary type of way.
nick in* england Posted September 13, 2004 Posted September 13, 2004 We tried out a guy named Mike Schafer. He played in NFLE (well he was allocted to NFLE) didn't make the 53...
stuckincincy Posted September 13, 2004 Posted September 13, 2004 I've said for a long time that the Bill's organization (TD) is one of the worst at scouting the waiver wire, and bringing bodies in - ALL year round - for a look-see. Da*n, the podunk B'gals do that and plucked a cast-off K Shayne Graham off the wire last year and he was 22-25!...
PIZ Posted September 13, 2004 Posted September 13, 2004 We tried out a guy named Mike Schafer. He played in NFLE (well he was allocted to NFLE) didn't make the 53... 29366[/snapback] Yeah, but that guy was smaller than that little equipment guy the Bills have. Mike Shafer is runt, and wasn't much of a challenge for Lindell.
The Jokeman Posted September 13, 2004 Posted September 13, 2004 I don't think it's fair comparing Lindell to Vanderjagt or Andersen as both have played a majority of their careers in domes. (I think Lindell played in a dome as a rookie hence his great % but can't remember for sure when the Seahakws moved out of the dome). In terms of Vinitairi he's one of the best kickers in the league. While I am concerned with Lindell's accuracy, it's too easy to make him a scape goat for yesterday's loss. The offense and defense made quite a few mistakes yesterday that also lead to the defeat.
JOHNNYFAIRPLAY Posted September 13, 2004 Posted September 13, 2004 I hate to say Im right because i'm a pessimist, but I have been saying this about Lindell for 3 years now, we didnt know what we had in Christie until we let him go. For christ sakes, he spells ryan, r-i-a-n
taterhill Posted September 13, 2004 Posted September 13, 2004 bring in Uwe Von Schammon...Ali Haji Sheikh, or Rolf Bernischke
jarthur31 Posted September 13, 2004 Posted September 13, 2004 TD needs to own up for this mistake. Cut Lindell now and don't bother with FG the rest of the year. We wont' win games that way.
Guest Guest_eyedog_* Posted September 13, 2004 Posted September 13, 2004 Lindell sucks and shouldn't even have a job in the NFL let alone for the Bills. You can't be missing 42 yd. fgoals. They obviously have no confidence in him, they wouldn't even attempt the 52 yarder that could have put them up seven. Why didn't they let him try the 52 yarder ? I'll answer, it's because they ******* knew he wouldn't make it. Get this bum out of here before he costs this team another win, and it will happen again if they keep him. The problem is TD overpaid for this bag of stevestojan and we all know TD doesn't like to admit his mistakes, for example look no further than the rt position. But hey I guess we'll just keep good ole Rian along until he misses a few more. With the way the Bills are gonna play this season, a lot of tight low scoring games, you damn well better have a top notch kicker.
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