philburger1 Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 "We [Muslims] have ruled the world and a day will come, by Allah, and we shall rule the world [again]. The day will come and we shall rule America. The day will come and we shall rule Britain." – Ibrahim Mudayris, PA TV, May 13, 2005. i thought they just wanted us out of Iraq, and theJews out of Gaza and the West Bank?
Reuben Gant Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 "We [Muslims] have ruled the world and a day will come, by Allah, and we shall rule the world [again]. The day will come and we shall rule America. The day will come and we shall rule Britain." – Ibrahim Mudayris, PA TV, May 13, 2005. i thought they just wanted us out of Iraq, and theJews out of Gaza and the West Bank? 415730[/snapback] This man obviously represents the sentiments of all Muslims.
SilverNRed Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 This man obviously represents the sentiments of all Muslims. 415736[/snapback] If people are going to act offended because Pat Robertson said what he said and millions of people agree with his beliefs, then what about this?
RkFast Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 "The day will come when [you] rule America"??? Bring it, Achnad.
Reuben Gant Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 If people are going to act offended because Pat Robertson said what he said and millions of people agree with his beliefs, then what about this? 415747[/snapback] Actually, Muslim eschatology vs. Pat Robertson's eschatology is a more apt comparison. Robertson believes that US foreign policy should reflect the ambitions of Zionism- Greater Israel, and believes in a literal 1000 year reign Christians and Converted Jews throughout the world. However, this guy in charge of the Koranic Memorization society has never run for president of the United States.
SilverNRed Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 Actually, Muslim eschatology vs. Pat Robertson's eschatology is a more apt comparison. Robertson believes that US foreign policy should reflect the ambitions of Zionism- Greater Israel, and believes in a literal 1000 year reign Christians and Converted Jews throughout the world. However, this guy in charge of the Koranic Memorization society has never run for president of the United States. 415758[/snapback] Either way, millions of people agree with each view, though I'd guess that millions more believed in what good ol' Uncle Ibrahim had to say. Robertson's flaccid attempts to run for President don't help his credibility much. (Yeah, that's right, I said FLACCID)
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 However, this guy in charge of the Koranic Memorization society has never run for president of the United States. 415758[/snapback] And Pat Robertson's never had followers modelling the latest in Semtex fashion, either. Robertson may be a loon, and the fact that people listen to him may be scary, but has anyone who takes Robertson seriously ever done anything more than send him money?
Reuben Gant Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 And Pat Robertson's never had followers modelling the latest in Semtex fashion, either. Robertson may be a loon, and the fact that people listen to him may be scary, but has anyone who takes Robertson seriously ever done anything more than send him money? 415785[/snapback] Republicans voted for him. In 1988 he took 30% of the votes in the primaries.
philburger1 Posted August 23, 2005 Author Posted August 23, 2005 Republicans voted for him. In 1988 he took 30% of the votes in the primaries. 415822[/snapback] I will start to get worried when I see videotapes of Muslims getting their heads cut off, and then they people yelling "praise be to jesus" after they do it. Till then get over yourself.
Bill from NYC Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 I will start to get worried when I see videotapes of Muslims getting their heads cut off, and then they people yelling "praise be to jesus" after they do it. Till then get over yourself. 415825[/snapback] I gotta admit, the advice that you gave him was not the worst that I ever heard.
Reuben Gant Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 Till then get over yourself. 415825[/snapback] Nice, ad hominem
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 Republicans voted for him. In 1988 he took 30% of the votes in the primaries. 415822[/snapback] 30%? No sh--? All I recall about his presidential campaign was accusations that his organization was collecting homeless people off the streets, bussing them to the polls and offering them $10 and a hot meal to vote for him. I always kind of assumed the accusations were true...because frankly, I can't imagine any other reason anyone would vote for him.
Reuben Gant Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 30%? No sh--? All I recall about his presidential campaign was accusations that his organization was collecting homeless people off the streets, bussing them to the polls and offering them $10 and a hot meal to vote for him. I always kind of assumed the accusations were true...because frankly, I can't imagine any other reason anyone would vote for him. 415843[/snapback] Robertson's campaign was one many took notice of, G.H.W.B. failed to capitalize on this demographic, but it did not escape Rove. It was a credible campaign and did well early.
RuntheDamnBall Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 "We [Muslims] have ruled the world and a day will come, by Allah, and we shall rule the world [again]. The day will come and we shall rule America. The day will come and we shall rule Britain." – Ibrahim Mudayris, PA TV, May 13, 2005. i thought they just wanted us out of Iraq, and theJews out of Gaza and the West Bank? 415730[/snapback] If your point is that these two are both ridiculous zealots devoid of any of the good in religion, I'm for it. If it's just to say, "Muslims bad, too" or "Muslims worse" then I fail to see how it addresses either side's problems.
Buckey Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 "We [Muslims] have ruled the world and a day will come, by Allah, and we shall rule the world [again]. The day will come and we shall rule America. The day will come and we shall rule Britain." – Ibrahim Mudayris, PA TV, May 13, 2005. i thought they just wanted us out of Iraq, and theJews out of Gaza and the West Bank? 415730[/snapback] They want us Infidels exterminated because we are all evil. Israel and Saudia Arabia is just a rallying point to get the radicals on board. There will always be nutjobs on this planet. What is really incredible is they contradict historic Muslim beliefs which are based on peace... and yet so many radical followers can't see that. Hmmm sounds like...?
Wacka Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 They want us Infidels exterminated because we are all evil. Israel and Saudia Arabia is just a rallying point to get the radicals on board. There will always be nutjobs on this planet. What is really incredible is they contradict historic Muslim beliefs which are based on peace... and yet so many radical followers can't see that. Hmmm sounds like...? 415897[/snapback] Democrats?
Ghost of BiB Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 Nice, ad hominem 415841[/snapback] Is that, like a gay thing?
Buckey Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 Democrats? 415968[/snapback] God I feel so sorry for you. A mind made of clay... geeze, I'm praying for you pal. I hope god grants you a miracle.
Buckey Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 If your point is that these two are both ridiculous zealots devoid of any of the good in religion, I'm for it. If it's just to say, "Muslims bad, too" or "Muslims worse" then I fail to see how it addresses either side's problems. 415885[/snapback] Then you are for it.
Reuben Gant Posted August 24, 2005 Posted August 24, 2005 Is that, like a gay thing? 416069[/snapback] not sure. Philburg re-posted the same quotation he posted a month ago and I took the bait to get harpooned. I guess I am not tuned into what passes for good manners these days.
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