ExiledInIllinois Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 Exactly. Because obviously he should have know what was going to happen 11 days later. BUSH BAD! But never mind Clinton vetoing the CIA mission to capture bin Ladin three years earlier because they didn't want to kill any civilians in the terrorist training camp. 415020[/snapback] Point taken. There is enough irresponsibility to spoon around on everyone, be it kitty footing around terrorists or being beligerant with the transition team. I know how you all like qustions. The pressing one is: Where do you get a job with a 4 week vacation after 6 months on the job?
KD in CA Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 Point taken. There is enough irresponsibility to spoon around on everyone, be it kitty footing around terrorists or being beligerant with the transition team. LOL...no doubt there. It's amazing how much stuff was missed by everyone over the 20+ years prior to 9-11. I know how you all like qustions. The pressing one is: Where do you get a job with a 4 week vacation after 6 months on the job? 415027[/snapback] Easy. Join a union! Free healthcare too!
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 LOL...no doubt there. It's amazing how much stuff was missed by everyone over the 20+ years prior to 9-11.Easy. Join a union! Free healthcare too! 415037[/snapback] Wait, I am a union worker and have to pay 20% (100 bucks every two weeks) of my healthcare? When I started, after 6 months on the job I only earned a total of 52 hours of leave... And GWB is my boss... We are both get paid by the federal government, presumably out of the general fund.
KD in CA Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 Wait, I am a union worker and have to pay 20% (100 bucks every two weeks) of my healthcare? When I started, after 6 months on the job I only earned a total of 52 hours of leave... And GWB is my boss... We are both get paid by the federal government, presumably out of the general fund. 415046[/snapback] Bush got extra vacation because his base is below market value and he doesn't get a bonus.
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 Bush got extra vacation because his base is below market value and he doesn't get a bonus. 415047[/snapback] Should the prez get anything at all? They are all rich men entering the the office? Back to NH... Maybe the prez should get paid like the state reps there? They haven't had a raise in over 200 years. [Art.] 15. [Compensation of the Legislature.] The presiding officers of both houses of the legislature, shall severally receive out of the state treasury as compensation in full for their services for the term elected the sum of $2 50, and all other members thereof, seasonably attending and not departing without license, the sum of $200 and each member shall receive mileage for actual daily attendance on legislative days, but not after the legislature shall have been in session for 45 legislative days or after the first day of July following the annual assembly of the legislature, whichever occurs first; provided, however, that, when a special session shall be called by the governor or by a 2/3 vote of the then qualified members of each branch of the general court, such officers and members shall receive for attendance an additional compensation of $3 per day for a period not exceeding 15 days and the usual mileage. Nothing herein shall prevent the payment of additional mileage to m embers attending committee meetings or on other legislative business on nonlegislative days. June 2, 1784 Amended 1792 requiring state to pay wages instead of town. Amended 1889 setting salary for members at $200 and for officers at $250 with $3 per day for special sessions. Amended 1960 limiting mileage to 90 legislative days. Amended 1984 limiting mileage to 45 legislative days in each annual session.
KRC Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 Should the prez get anything at all? They are all rich men entering the the office? Back to NH... Maybe the prez should get paid like the state reps there? They haven't had a raise in over 200 years. [Art.] 15. [Compensation of the Legislature.] The presiding officers of both houses of the legislature, shall severally receive out of the state treasury as compensation in full for their services for the term elected the sum of $2 50, and all other members thereof, seasonably attending and not departing without license, the sum of $200 and each member shall receive mileage for actual daily attendance on legislative days, but not after the legislature shall have been in session for 45 legislative days or after the first day of July following the annual assembly of the legislature, whichever occurs first; provided, however, that, when a special session shall be called by the governor or by a 2/3 vote of the then qualified members of each branch of the general court, such officers and members shall receive for attendance an additional compensation of $3 per day for a period not exceeding 15 days and the usual mileage. Nothing herein shall prevent the payment of additional mileage to m embers attending committee meetings or on other legislative business on nonlegislative days. June 2, 1784 Amended 1792 requiring state to pay wages instead of town. Amended 1889 setting salary for members at $200 and for officers at $250 with $3 per day for special sessions. Amended 1960 limiting mileage to 90 legislative days. Amended 1984 limiting mileage to 45 legislative days in each annual session. 415056[/snapback] They have the right idea. Here in PA, the legislature just voted themselves a massive pay raise. They tried to justify it by saying "well, I am working 60-80 hours per week at this job. I need to be compensated for my time." My response, "well, maybe we need to cut back the hours you are spending on the job. Being a legislator should be a part-time job." Less government - Good. More government - Bad.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 Exactly. Stop loss for an all volunteer armed forces, not conscripted. Saudis, can't argue with that. Halliburton, same... Name change to protect the innocent. Presidents taking month long vactions in their first year, 11 days before the deadliest attack on American soil since the Civil War... Not that is TRULY new! 415015[/snapback] You Twit. These men signed up for 8 YEARS! They are being asked to honor that commitment.
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 Wait, I am a union worker and have to pay 20% (100 bucks every two weeks) of my healthcare? When I started, after 6 months on the job I only earned a total of 52 hours of leave... And GWB is my boss... We are both get paid by the federal government, presumably out of the general fund. 415046[/snapback] Of course, when you take your 52 hours vacation, your job doesn't get packed into a couple of C-5s and follow you.
UConn James Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 Of course, when you take your 52 hours vacation, your job doesn't get packed into a couple of C-5s and follow you. 415127[/snapback] Someone I know who's in the Air Force SF & Ravens escorted the white pick-up and other stuff in a C-5 down to Crawford a couple of years ago. They had to wait for two hours while Laura, at the last minute, decided to send over another shoebox. Maybe she really, really, really, really, really, really needed those green pumps to go with one of her summer dresses. Oh well. That's the job.
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 Someone I know who's in the Air Force SF & Ravens escorted the white pick-up and other stuff in a C-5 down to Crawford a couple of years ago. They had to wait for two hours while Laura, at the last minute, decided to send over another shoebox. Maybe she really, really, really, really, really, really needed those green pumps to go with one of her summer dresses. Oh well. That's the job. 415179[/snapback] I believe the ability to make dozens of people wait for you shoes at a cost of thousands of dollars a minute is known as a "perk". Every administration has stupid nonsense like that going on. I used to know a guy in White House Signals under Clinton; Chelsea's slumber parties were apparently a royal pain in the ass for the Secret Service...
UConn James Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 I believe the ability to make dozens of people wait for you shoes at a cost of thousands of dollars a minute is known as a "perk". Every administration has stupid nonsense like that going on. I used to know a guy in White House Signals under Clinton; Chelsea's slumber parties were apparently a royal pain in the ass for the Secret Service... 415267[/snapback] Well, it's the cost of keeping the inmates safe at the American prison system's crown jewel, as one president called it.
RkFast Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 Every administration has stupid nonsense like that going on. 415267[/snapback] No. No administration until the current one had anything CLOSE to this going on. They were all perfect.
Wacka Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 I believe the ability to make dozens of people wait for you shoes at a cost of thousands of dollars a minute is known as a "perk". Every administration has stupid nonsense like that going on. I used to know a guy in White House Signals under Clinton; Chelsea's slumber parties were apparently a royal pain in the ass for the Secret Service... 415267[/snapback] As were the frat parties the under age Chelsea got hammered at when she was at Stanford. Gi that info directly from a member of the frat (the Dekes-DKE)
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 As were the frat parties the under age Chelsea got hammered at when she was at Stanford. Gi that info directly from a member of the frat (the Dekes-DKE) 415387[/snapback] Underage drinking at a college? Why, that NEVER happens...those Clintons are rotten, I tell you...
SilverNRed Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 Underage drinking at a college? Why, that NEVER happens...those Clintons are rotten, I tell you... 415393[/snapback] Anyone who ever drank before they were 21 probably had really bad parents.
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 You Twit. These men signed up for 8 YEARS! They are being asked to honor that commitment. 415124[/snapback] Why the name calling? These men signed up for 8 YEARS! They are being asked to honor that commitment. Would have sufficed. ???
PastaJoe Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 Why the name calling? These men signed up for 8 YEARS! They are being asked to honor that commitment. Would have sufficed. ??? 415587[/snapback] You should know by now, when they can't effectively counter the message they attack the messenger.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 You should know by now, when they can't effectively counter the message they attack the messenger. 415618[/snapback] I think the meat of my post countered his poorly-conceived argument quite well.
PastaJoe Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 I think the meat of my post countered his poorly-conceived argument quite well. 415623[/snapback] Of course you would think that.
KD in CA Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 No. No administration until the current one had anything CLOSE to this going on. They were all perfect. 415301[/snapback] Except for Nixon, Reagan and Bush Sr.
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