Ohio Congressional election yesterday: Hackett did

[UConn James]

Well, I think it puts another gram in the critical mass that Ohio proper shouldn't be called a true "battleground" state.

 

But for a district that elected the previous Republican by a landslide, Hackett made it pretty darn close - 3,500 votes short against Schmidt. Then again, he did lose to a woman who was in pretty deep in ethical issues... and at the end of the day, reading a lot of her quotes (and don't get me wrong, I can accept a person of any party who thinks for themselves) she really does seem a hollow, cookie-cutter Republican.

 

Can't say I agree w/ Hackett's critical stance on Bush's GWOT strategy, but admit that the man sure earned his right to say it, and he'll be deployed on another tour in Nov. In the national media, it was made out that he was bascially a single-issue candidate. What did him in? Was it that people supported the war, or that they were unsure of/disliked his other issue stances, or rather the lack of them being clearly defined?

[Bill from NYC]

Hackett appeared to be a sane candidate. An actual dem who was seemingly not a leftist nut case is a rarity these days. Why did he lose?

 

One would have to guess that merely being endorsed by the democratic party worked against him. Look at the list of losers and loonies that control the party:

 

Hillary

Pelosi

Sharpton

Dean

Mosley-Braun

Kerry

Jesse Jackson

Edwards

 

The above is a short list. A large portion of the American people, including registered dems, have turned their collective backs on these jackasses because they do not wish to be identified with them in any way. West Virginia is a good example of a once democratic stronghold which now seems to vote solid republican.

As I have stated before, the lunatic fringe has SO much control of the primaries, that sane candidates such as Lieberman have zero chance. A normal guy like him cannot pass the muster of the burned out sixties hippies, environmentalist nuts, militant vegetarians, apologetic, at any cost peaceniks, etc. These are the "kingmakers" of the democratic party.

Hillary is lunging toward what she thinks is the center. She is supposedly not too keen on gay marriages, and is actually not cheering on women to get abortions these days. Thinking that non-leftist wackos are prejudiced, she even threw in a racial slur about people from India (which of course was defended by a leftist on this board).

Trust me, the repubs are no bargain either, but until democratic party members are able to wrestle their party out of the grasp of kooks, their losses will continue.

 

PS: In Suffolk County NY, the County Executive is a dem, Steve Levy. He is the best county exec. in decades. Recently, he evicted 64 illegal aliens out of a small one family house in a residential community. There were open electrical wires, people using the back yard for a bathroom, and other health violations. His reward?

He was accused (by radical dems of course) of "ethnic cleansing."

[UConn James]

Well, it's easy to blame it on a party membership, it's a cop-out in a real explanation. It certainly plays a part, but much less of a share than most people assume. I don't not vote for Rob Simmons b/c of Tom Delay. I think voters judge the individual and their own beliefs.

 

Lieberman is sane? That's news to me. In the '04 primary he got pretty out there. I guess that's what sleep deprivation does to you.

[stuckincincy]

Well, I think it puts another gram in the critical mass that Ohio proper shouldn't be called  a true "battleground" state.

 

But for a district that elected the previous Republican by a landslide, Hackett made it pretty darn close - 3,500 votes short against Schmidt. Then again, he did lose to a woman who was in pretty deep in ethical issues... and at the end of the day, reading a lot of her quotes (and don't get me wrong, I can accept a person of any party who thinks for themselves) she really does seem a hollow, cookie-cutter Republican.

 

Can't say I agree w/ Hackett's critical stance on Bush's GWOT strategy, but admit that the man sure earned his right to say it, and he'll be deployed on another tour in Nov. In the national media, it was made out that he was bascially a single-issue candidate. What did him in? Was it that people supported the war, or that they were unsure of/disliked his other issue stances, or rather the lack of them being clearly defined?

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Well, I live next to the contested district. It's quite extensive, running essentially along the Ohio River eastward, encompassing Clermont County and parts of Brown, Adams, and Scioto Counties. The last 3 are quite poor, with high historically high unemployment, welfare rates and usually near or at the bottom of the educational achievement barrel. They traditionally lean heavily democratic.

 

The 3,500 margin was narrow - but I ascribe some of that to holding a special election.

 

I'm not quite clear when you refer to "deep into ethical issues". IIRC, when Schmidt was in the Ohio legislature, she behaved like virtually all state legislators, i.e., always a small odor about.

 

Truthfully, I never heard much of her until the seated Rep, Rob Portman resigned upon appointment as Chief US Trade Envoy - not sure I have that title right.

 

Hackett is a trial layer from Cincinnati's big money town, Indian Hill. He started out with pretty advertisements showing him in his Marine uniform (he was more or less a public relations liasion, not combat), and the ads showed the flag, the President, etc. (he had previously declared the President to be the most dangerous thing in the world or some such).

 

James Carville showed up, and then the ads became nasty. One of them accused Schmidt of accepting free food and tix to a Bengals game. The fact was that she was invited by Boomer Eisaison on behalf of his kid's foundation (I don't recall the malady his son - Gunnar - has). A day or so after the event, Schmidt reimbursed the expenses.

 

There were delays in the vote count in Clermont County - so the hue and cry of conspiracy was raised - turned out that because of the region's current high humidity, the card readers ran slower because the humidity had affected the paper. Begrudgingly, the Dem's admitted that it was so.

 

I note that Bill in NYC mentioned that Hackett seemed sane. But it didn't take him long to start spewing - he was directly quoted as saying "I'll do anything to win".

[Chilly]

I am sad that Hackett lost, but he did very well. No political experience, running in a HEAVY (talking 70%) Republican district, he ran a very good race.

 

The fact that Hackett said "I'll do anything to win" is just an example of a politician being honest instead of dishonest (which probably lost him the race )

[Rich in Ohio]

Being from the area I can tell you, this race was never in doubt. Hackett did a nice job and got respect his service.

 

I do not think that this means anything nationaly. This part of ohio is rather strong on the conservative front. It almost offsets the complete liberal insanity in cleveland (but not quite). The rest of ohio is pretty normal and that is why the republican party will continue to do well here. Even dems in this state cannot support those who have siezed the democratic party.

[Chilly]

The rest of ohio is pretty normal and that is why the republican party will continue to do well here.

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[Rich in Ohio]

   

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Whats so funny? Have you spent time in Ohio? Are you familiar with the nuts who live in the cleveland area? My guess is no.

 

Well, let me tell you that most of Ohio is rather normal. Of course there are some liberal nuts in each of the big cities but other then cleveland they are pretty much neutralized by the normal people so thier impact while annoying, has no real lasting impact. Basically they are good entertainment for normal folks.

 

Also, if you knew anything about cleveland and the way that the city is run then you would know that for the most part they yhink that kuncinich is a normal guy. Need I really say more?

 

Oh btw, it was kucinich and his kind (you know the liberal nuts) who bankrupted the city of clevelnad while he was the mayor. And just to show you how insane the majority of the population there is, they still kinda like that freak.

 

So when I say that the rest of Ohio is normal compared to the freaks in cleveland it is because this is based on facts no just opinion.

[Crap Throwing Monkey]

...this is based on facts no just opinion.

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He says as if he can tell the difference...

[bobblehead]

this race was never in doubt.

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Then you could have saved the GOP that extra $500,000 they kicked in for this campaign if you had mentioned this earlier and to the right people.

[Rich in Ohio]

 

Then you could have saved the GOP that extra $500,000 they kicked in for this campaign if you had mentioned this earlier and to the right people.

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ummm, who won? Yea thats what I thought.

 

BTW, do you have any idea what the dems spent to get thier man in? Yea, thats what I thought.

 

 

You guys are such a joke.

[bobblehead]

ummm, who won? Yea thats what I thought.

 

Sort of proves the point, if you think about it.

 

BTW, do you have any idea what the dems spent to get thier man in? Yea, thats what I thought.

 

The Dems had a 40+ point catch-up to do, If I didn't know, I would expect that yes, they had spent alot of money. That would have been a smart thing to do.

 

You guys are such a joke.

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You guys?

[Chilly]

Basically they are good entertainment for normal folks.

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Yes you are.